I will make this short. It has been 5 months since my last Mirt pill. I didn't sleep last night, and had abdominal cramps and pain all day yesterday, and today is starting out bad. For those who have followed my journey, I have been to the Emergency Room 3 times, and had 2 abdominal CT scans, one with contrast, the other without. Both results were negative (normal). I have been through every symptom in the book, and the whole thing, so far, has been ■■■■. I had a couple of decent days, and thought that I had started to improve, but the last couple of days and last night is almost like hitting the re-set button. If you have had similar circumstances, please reply. God bless all who come to this site suffering, as they have limited resources for help. David
Wishing you Gods speed David, I wish there was something more I could do to help, but know you are 'heard', and 'felt' and your suffering 'will end' - time has been cruel but I'm sure relief is on it's way.
I think it's fantastic that you are here, now, on this forum, to relay your journey - I'm sure there are one or two people, at present actively posting who have very recently decided, sadly, to go ahead and 'cold turkey' ... your message alone could have a big impact oin helping them along their 'trip' off Mirt' !
Wishing you well, always David. God bless you & the family x
David sorry your still suffering. I haven't taken any mIrap for over 3 weeks. Was only on it for a few months for nausea and vomiting due to gallbladder removal which incidentally was actually from a large cyst on my ovary which partially ruptured a few weeks ago and the nausea and vomiting disappeared overnight. I have been taking milk thistle for about 5 weeks to help my liver detox and rid it of excess toxins. It has helped me greatly. I would recommend it David as your liver is probably on overdrive after the meds for so long. I am sleeping fine too. I am also doing acupuncture and my acupuncturist recommended the milk thistle and also has me on some herbs too. She explained to me that all these meds we take have a huge impact on our liver and once the liver is out of synch the digestive system and hormonal system will also be out too. She said depression and anxiety is common in Chinese medicine with stagnation in the liver as are cysts and gallstones which happened to me. If you can afford it try a good alternative therapist. It can only help you. Thinking of you. Take care x
Hi David,
Thank you for coming here to give an update.
Much appreciated as your long journey of 'cold turkey' wd is a warning to those who want to ignore the advice to taper slowly.
I am so sorry to know you continue to suffer David and with all my heart I pray that you are through the worst and may each day be better than the previous day.
Good advice from Ace and I think I shall try some Milk Thistle!
I hold you in my thoughts and prayers David.
Sunbird
David,you messaged me on Facebook and I replied,but you haven't read my reply.
Hi David,We were discussing that post that Rose put on on Saturday,about Serotonin,you said your GI doctor had given you some strong supplements and iu,s would you say they were of any help,or is it to early to say.
My thoughts are with you as I understand how your feeling. I had a really bad Tum Saturday to the point of tears,I'm trying to avoid AE because they can only give me morphine and I have that at home,and you can't keep taking that.
Anyway David thank you for the reply,and I can just pray tomorrow will be a better day for you. But frankly I think with the IBS it's something we'll have to live with I don't think Mirt done me and you any favours.
you take care of yourself and look after that lovely wife of yours who like my hubby has had to put up with a lot.Big Hugs💕
Norma, the supplements were Vit D. Thanks for the hugs. Your Friend David
Talking of Milk Thistle ... food supplement regulations are confusing - there was a wonderful programme on TV here in UK recently, scientifically testing Milk Thistle remedies etc. It's worth knowing & not getting ripped off with copy supplements.
I hasten to add, there's nothing in it for me!
Do you think matazapine could have caused you to develop ibs just a suggestion and have you tried buscopan you buy it at the chemist in UK. I have ibd and swear it's amazing for stomach cramps worth a try. Sorry to hear your still suffering xx
Vitamin d can cause constipation badly which could explain the pains I know this as I suffer with ibd and it's advised for people who suffer diarrhea not people with healthy bowel movements xx
David my withdrawal symptoms lasted 5 months, from June to November 2012. The good spells gradually lasted longer. The posts on this forum helped me so much. God bless
Hi David,
good to hear from you, I'm so sorry you are still suffering so much. Wishing and hoping your good days will increase soon. With love and best wishes, sheila 💖
Thank you Erica. People like you who remain loyal to the site after making it through are the most valuable asset that those of us who are still in the process have. God bless you as well.
Lauren, unfortunately, buscopan is not available in the USA. We do have other medications that have the same function, but I take heart rhythm medication, and that type of drug can't be taken with the heart medicine. Thanks for the suggestion. David
Do you know what helps aswell peppermint tea add sugar it can taste a bit foul or peppermint cordial if you can stomach it really helps with the cramps. I'm sorry to hear about the whole not being allowed meds xx
Thank you young lady. I hope that people look at how I handled this and see that it is NOT the way that it should be done. Great to hear from you! David
Hi Calmer,I watch that same program whenever it's on,and I totally agree with you .You do have to watch what you buy.
I seen my Rhuematologist recently,who insists on my vit D levels are up to standard,which they were,but I mentioned if they drop should I get some Vit D supplements from the chemist. She told me the best way was 15mins of sun a day,or because we don't get enough sun,she would prescribe some,because what you buy from the chemist is no good.
So that program just confirmed it. Plus my Pharmasist told me the same thing. So people don't be fooled be careful.
Norma thanks for your information about milk thistle. However I can only comment on what has worked for me. I was put on mirap for nausea and vomiting after my gallbladder was removed (which I now believe was probably unnecessary) I attempted to come off it 2 months ago and had to go back on it within a week as the withdrawals were so bad. I started to take the milk thistle which is a reputable brand and was able to come off the mirap without any problems 3 weeks ago. I wouldn't always believe what a doctor tells you either to be honest as there job is to promote the big pharma drugs and so is the pharmacists. Unfortunately all drugs whether natural or chemical can have side effects. It's important to try and find something that suits you. We are all different and have different viewpoints and different experiences with medications. I didn't see the programme but read the article. As I've said I came here to offer support to someone who needs it and tell him what worked for me. X
Acejohonston, I would just like to reply to you,by saying I was just agreeing with what Calmer had said. And we are all entitled to our own opinion.
When we are commenting on these forums,just like you we are all talking about our own experiences and beliefs. If milk thistle or any other natural remedies work for you then fine,and you are like me entitled to put your opinion on here.
But what you don't have the right to do is to tell me or anyone else that there wrong. What I said was don't be fooled be careful, and I think the people who read this have enough intelligence to choose to do what is right for them. I think you underestimate people's intelligence.
Norma not going to get into a cat fight with you over this. Am simply saying it has helped me so don't knock it until you've tried it. If you've tried it and it hasn't helped you then that's ok too. I Have nothing to gain by sharing this with everyone. And yes I agree we are all entitled to our opinions. Take care xx