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When you've been awake all night and the sun comes up and the birds start singing ...I wish I could bloody shoot them sometimes! Why are they so happy and cheerful I wish I could be a bird

Know the feeling, then cars start moving, that makes it worse, another day of this horrible feeling and no respite.  What do we do to get better as it wasnt like this before.

Well dondons

I don't speak bird myself but it's quite an intricate language whose to say they are cheerful

I'm sure you have a smile you hide behide when your out maybe it's the same thing

Or maybe we just became to civilised to have fun we made thing complicated learning about what we expect from life and set ourselves tasks that seem impossible and relationships that we strive to work hard to make successful

People argue we are the most intelligent species I'd disagree they kept it simple we made our lives hard seems they are smarter than us

I remember that feeling. The only successful solution I found was to stop worrying that I couldn't sleep. I didn't want sleeping tablets; all the advice about healthy sleeping was useless. My brain simply wouldn't shut up. Then I had to be up at 6.30 for a day teaching! So I made a decision - no more fretting. If I can't sleep, I read. I read a lot. The kindle is good cos I can turn off the light and sometimes I just doze off over the dim words. I won't worry about it. That just makes me worse.

I resent hearing the birds if I haven't slept. I feel cheated of another night. Then I listen to their song and it's so beautiful, it lifts me for the day. Of all the creatures in the world, I'd choose to be a bird. For that blissful freedom (assuming I don't have to live near my cat!).

Sorry if I sound smug but it really did work - there's no rule that we have to sleep at night time or in long sessions. We find what suits us. Me? A few hours at night and a late afternoon relaxation session that's worth hours of sleep.

So far, hearing the birds this spring has been the only thing, besides my cats, that has made waking up worthwhile for me.  I go to bed feeling relatively "normal" and then comes morning............  I am grateful for those first few moments because the rest is a struggle.

Hi,

Of course, birds have no concept of dying or ageing. I once saw a bird of prey swoop down from a tree and grab hold of a songbird, the poor thing was going to be torn to bits but, it was singing as the two of them flew off.

The not knowing what a new day brings could fill one with pleasure, but knowing it's going to be like yesterday and the day before can fill you with dread.

It is all down to outlook, or the lack of it.

Mike.

Good point.  However, when the next day is the same and the next and the next, it gets discouraging.

Hi dondons

When I had councilling,cbt, I had to keep a diary. I told the councillor that it would be pointless as one day just slips into the next, no difference.

Keeping that bloody diary for 19 weeks was so depressing, sameo sameo, every day.

Now we are told to keep a diary as support for claiming pip etc. Make out a diary for weeks, it makes things worse, not better.

Mike.

Hi mike

I must say I think it's the intent of the diary if I'm honest

I highly recommend keeping a diary of how you feel I find it helps me. I end slow thoughts down and helps me focus on one thing at a time

It also helps me feel that I've spoken to someone when factually I have none to speak to helps me when I'm at the Drs recollect how I was feeling I suppose it come down to what you are hoping to gain from keeping a dairy

I think you are doing a dairy for you benifet not who yourself or yo help you so therefore you doing for the wrong reasons begrudgingly doing something is never going to work I don't feel you should be so negative toward others about the idea I don't know what you put in your diary or what you claim pip for however some ppl and a lot of ppl I've recommended doing it to message me frequently saying how much of a differeance it has made for them and how it's such a simple solution they also now recommend it so I don't think your being fair saying it makes it worse maybe you could of said it didn't work for you but to give it a try if you tell someone it's crap then they approach it in the wrong frame of mind do you see what I'm saying

Thanks

Hi superfluous,

If it works for you that's great, I don't have a problem trying new things, if it helps it's always worth it.

I have cervical spine problems after a fall at work.

Can't do anything that means putting strain on upper body.

Mike

But MIke thats just it! you dont have an idea about what the next day might hold actually, any more than the bird, you can hypothesize but you cant know, think of how your own life has changed when its has which I expect it has, Has nothing surprising every happened? Are all days the same going back through your life. You have some power to change your life, you its sounds as though you have thrown in the rag, but if you do that then change will have to be luck or perhaps not.

Sorry not replied to anyone been in hospital life's a mess

Hi,

I was lucky enough not to have been born with a disability, however as my accident happened when I was 61 it had a tremendous effect on my later life. I had to take early retirement, my pension plans had to be cashed in to help out and I lost my business.

I am not feeling sorry for myself, physically things will either stay the same or get worse. I feel for my wife, we are both 67 and she has to do everything in the house and garden. I am mainly confined to the house, if I go outside I have to be careful because I have had malignant melanoma. I find it difficult to walk, something we loved doing together nor can I swim which was my best way of exercising.

Keep a diary of my life and it will be Groundhog Day till the day I die.

Mike.

Sorry to hear that. Hope it has helped?

I know you are hating writing a diary but perhaps if you get fed up with it enough you will start to react emotionally to what you say and say a lot more too. I used to write ten or more A4both sides letters to my psych for years. I needed to say those things but the sessions were not long enough

It was a suicide attempt, got that wrong too! Was in hospital again last night, just got home, wasn't a suicide attempt this time just self harmed and took a couple of extra tablets just to try to feel better or anything other than this!

Makes me really angry that they just release you from hospital care without support. This whole system is so useless for its purpose. Hold in there.

I have a follow up apppintment tomorrow although I don't even know if I'm going to be able to go, my anxiety is sky high at the moment X

Have you someone who could go with you or take you? A social worker, a friend or relative? Asking is often difficult but it can make a huge difference. Anxiety is so crippling isn't it? I've just 'lied' to my dentist in order to avoid the anxiety of a check up tomorrow. 

Thank you Gill. The whole idea of a misery diary repels me but you've reminded me how I used to write screeds on loose-leaf paper for a therapist and how useful it was, particularly when I gave it to him! I'm going to reconsider the idea - and you didn't even suggest it for me!