Has anyone tried Sabah Snake Grass or any chinese herbal tea? How to prepare and use this?
I am living in the Philippines and my Father has Prostrate Cancer and Kidney problems.
We can't afford the medicines suggested by doctors and we are trying to find Alternative Treatment to fight cancer and other diseases.
In my place, Cavite there is the dried Sabah Snake Grass but I don't know if it's effective. I tried searching for testimonial and other product made out of that Sabah Snake Grass
and found capsules and teas,
There's a plantation who sells dried leaves with certain directions,
There's a company that sells Nutans Tea out of Sabah Snake Grass.
Hope you can help me.
I have found only 2 possible treatments in the literature, young papaya leaf tea, and pure pomegranate juice, 4 oz x 3 or 4 daily..I will do some additional searchers.
claudio
Papaya leaf? Pomegranate juice?
Well I am not that good in preparing stuff. As I want to avoid mishandle of the instructions.
I have found the tea with Sabah Snake Grass and it costs less than 1,000. Pretty good price for processed Herbal Tea.
I saw another one (capsules) different company but it's price is too high. 3,000 pesos
Hope you can reply with your research and compare each product that we will research
You need to do some very important things for your father..regardless..you have adequate skill if your over 8 years old and a philippino/a...
Papaya leaf: young leaf..dry..not in the sun..preferably 10 to 15 leaves...once dry, crumble into almost powder..a/2 teaspoon in one cup warm water...x 3 to 4 times a day...Several years ago, Japan did extensive studies with this leaf...it targeted specific cancer cells...the specific cells were not disclosed in the translation from Japanese to English. Recall the study was 80 to 90% successful..but only for these cancer cells...I have used the tea for my wife's "ovaroan" Cancer...
inasmuch as its within the "repoductive system", it may work for prostate since it too is within the reproductive system.
You can purchase pomegranate juice...just make sure its pure without sugar or a combo of other fruit juice..
One pill or one drug will not work...you goal is to stop any progression...then go after the cells big time...
Your fathers "immune system" is weakened due to its fight with the cancer...build his immune system..QUICKLY...for starts:
1. Vitamin D3...hopefully with vita k2 (if not, plenty of green leaf vegetables)
2. Vitamin C, 500 to 1g Buffered (meaning with calciium)
3. Vitamin E (Tococrenols, and tocofrenols) not synthetich
4. Resveratrol (100mg x 4 daily)
I will now search the oncology journals to see what may be "effective", I am not enthused since lian (age 33) the famous Chinese singer just died of breast cancer last month....using TCM...but?...must try nonetheless.
Claudio
Perhap;s Resveratrol should be IMMEDIATE but the other things
are a must as well.
Do not use google to search for any prostate help...use
"google scholar"...then cut and paste this into the search box:
Resveratrol reduces prostate cancer growth and metastasis by inhibiting the Akt/MicroRNA-21 pathway.
Claudio
I studied the "Oncologist's" journal on pomegranate juice...the study used 8 oz...not correct...more is not better...the Isreal study illustrated the greatest benefit was not more but less..i.e. 4 oz consumed every 4 to 6 hours.
Inasmuch as "cure"...the only cure is "surgery", all others including what I've suggested are treatments to HALT
I studied the "Oncologist's" journal on pomegranate juice...the study used 8 oz...not correct...more is not better...the Isreal study illustrated the greatest benefit was not more but less..i.e. 4 oz consumed every 4 to 6 hours.
Inasmuch as "cure"...is concerned the only cure via Primary Sourced Journals is "surgery", all others including what I've suggested are considered treatments to HALT THE PROGRESSION and spread (metastasis) however, if one can maintain a healthy immune system along with some of these supplementations....there is always an opportunity to destroy all of the bad cells.
I need a break....later, .will go thru my old school papers to see if there is any important material that I can share...Claudio
We can't afford surgeries and stuff in hospital.
My father adjusted the foods that he eat based on the Do's and Dont's
and also I ordered that Nutans Tea out of Sabah Snake Grass.
But I will try it first to see it's effect and will give it to my father afterwards.
Will research more before advicing him to drink the herbal tea.
But my father really believed in Chinese herbal because my grandfather uses Chinese herbal for his diseases.
IUnderstood if you couldn't afford some meds..you surely wouldn't be able to do surgery.
I do not suggest the Clinacanthus nutans Tea is of no value..to the contrary...it has good "anti inflammatory" qualities...that isn't enough...scavengers are needed...i.e. resveratrol...killer t cells...but first stop the progression or nothing much else will help
The most recent published studfies of this plant are from India and Thailand, but not human...sprague D meese.
I haven't any idea what the "do's and don'ts" might be. without a baseline.
The efficacy of Clinacanthus nutans is "dose dependent"..
Every oncologist knows "one drug" or even a few combined treatments may not be enough....Chinese use papaya leaf as well as pomegranate...DGL...and qianliening...was schooled by a 93 year old TCM dr. many years ago...today unless one knows the "source" of production, its "risky"...I send "stuff" to China such as "infant milk formula)...but I also receive stuff. Wish your father well.
Claudio
The efficacy of Clinacanthus nutans is "dose dependent"..
So it depends how many times I will drink the tea?
The package will arrive this friday.
will use it for the first 5 days
and then check the result and if positive, will give it to my father and we'll see.
I will update you Sir, if I will try the papaya and pure pomegranate juice
I am really thankful for your help.
our prayers are for you and family..be sure to include Resveratrol..claudio..btw when I asked my wife about this plant, she was most familiar. the combination of green apple in my opinion is
most important..green apple's active ingredient
is Pectin..a transporter/chaperone..suspect the
nutan needs extra help to the target area
(prostate).
Yes yes.
Because I should not reply on just Nutans Tea.
Will note that.
If you have new update about this product. I will just check this forum post.
I will update you daily when I start testing this product.
mono therapy very very weak for Cancers...
Drug/treatment resistance can be divided into two categories: intrinsic or acquired resistance .
Intrinsic resistance results in ineffective therapy from the start due to presence of resistant phenotype in the tumor cells.
On the other hand, acquired resistance develops during treatment whereby tumor cells showed initial responsiveness towards anticancer drugs but attained resistant phenotype during the treatment course.
This renders subsequent therapy ineffective leading to tumor recurrence and progression .**The use of multi natural agents have minimal toxicity to humans compared to conventional chemotherapies, but also they can target numerous signalling pathways. This is beneficial as malignant transformation and progression are multistage processes caused by gene alterations in more than one signalling pathway. This is one of the most plausible explanations why monomodal therapy typically fails.
I will send you what Malaysia suggests...and what I think would be a best protocol...
Claudio
1Institute of Biological Science (Genetics and Molecular Biology), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, July 2014
miRNAs have the potential to be used as therapeutic targets.
curcumin, (tumeric) …root….anti inflammatory and anti oxidant
resveratrol (grapes/red wine, major scavenger)
genistein, (soy isolate)
epigallocatechin 3-galate indole-3-carbinol (EGCG green tea extract)
diindolylmethane (anti cancer foods, Broccoli, Brussel Sprouts, cabbagecauliflower, collard greens, kale, mustard greens, and watercress)
Noted. Will update you every day for the development
Claudio’s suggested protocol
The reason for combining several known treatments is simply due to
Resistance…
Phenotype: this is when our immune system resists a treatment for a number of
Reasons such as it identifies the treatment as trouble and destroys it.
Acquired: too often once a treatment starts, the cancer cells develop a strategy to
Block the treatment, always thru a pathway..
Therefore, when one pathway is blocked, others may yet be available and should be
Used.
Supplements
Resveratrol
Green Tea (extract) EgCG
Papaya leaf tea
Pomegranate Juice
Milk Thistle
Sabah snake grass
Qianliening
Tumeric
Vitamins
Vit C
Vit D3
Vit E
Minerals
Selenium
Zinc gluconate
Diet
Fermented vegetablesFiltered water PH 8.2 plus
Hello, Im from India and im doing some research on this topic as a beloved family member of mine is in stage 4 prostate cancer. The radiation and chemo have not succeeded in stalling the PSA. I wish to follow the steps pointed out by Mr. Donclaudio as i also read the role of genistein , resveratrol, turmeric inhibiting the mTor pathway and inducing the PTen protein to rise.
I also read about a baking soda remedy by Jhonston Vernon , to raise the alkalinity (PH) of the body , and ive tried that too, have yet to get the test done again to check the progress.
If someone can please post an update on whether these options have benefited them , id be grateful.
Hi eosUHI, I'm also interested in natural treatment for cancer. I hope your father is feeling better. Please update us if there's anything new in the treatment. Thanks.
Sorry to hear about your father. I am somewhat new to this topic, but from what I know from my experience as a cancer patient and my medical knowledge, herabal tea is NOT in any way a cure for cancer. It is true that at this moment many researches were made to discover organic properties of different plants that can be in one way or another helpful in developing cancer therapies. There are even some nutritional approaches to palliative cancer treatment; that is, restraining tumors growth and enhancing patient's immune system (here are some advices regarding prostate cancer: http://paseka.us/cancer-types/prostate-cancer/). But there is no evidence whatsoever that cancer can be cured ONLY with diet. That is physically impossible, since the concentration of the useful elements in the plants (or in the herbal tea, for that matter) is just too low.