amitriptyline withdrawal

Hi gibbipicasso

Sammy here, I consider myself a success story. I am at week 9 of being off Ami and whilst I have a few issues they a very minor in the scheme of things and very doable.

i titrated my last pill in 50 ml of water and took out 0.1mg every day for 50 days which made the journey down a lot smoother. I had done the cutting of pills in halves and quarters but once I got to 5mg I thought I want to go very slow to give the body more time to adjust on the way down. 

I mentioned in an earlier post that I would stick around as there are not many that do once people manage to get off their medication they tend to go live their life, which is understandable, however I don't want to be that person, people need to know that it can be done if done the right way. Sometimes the slower the better many medications stop the body from making certain chemicals and once you get to lower doses your body then has to begin doing its job by making them again and this is where effects are usually felt. IMO in lots of instances if one was to slow the withdrawal down it would make a huge difference, getting down to 10mg was ok but from 10 to 0 took 2 years, that is what I mean by slow.

hope this gives others encouragement and hope that it can be done xxxxx

Hi gibbipicasso, I'm also very close to getting off Ami successfully after over 20 yrs on 50mg. My last attempt a few years ago was a disaster but this time I've taken it very slowly. I'm down to 2.5mg and tonight I will skip taking it all together for the first time and start skipping every 3rd day for a while.

Only a short reply sorry as I type solo slowly on my phone. I just wanted to let you know that there is hope.

Gibbipicasso,

I would consider myself somewhat of a success story. I quit cold turkey almost two mon.ago(wouldn't recommend that)because I ran out of my meds and I was just tired of taking them. It was rough transition,but I did it without hesitation. Everybody's body reacts differently to meds so consult with your doc. I had the severe nausea, lethargy,nightmares,sweating,diarrhea, dehydration,and a 20 lb weight loss. There are other meds out there just keep researching. This drug has too many side effects and long term effects. Stay encouraged. You can do this!

Hi gibbipicasso,

I stooped cold turkey 11 months ago and now I am back to normal, and living my normal life and have all my ambitions back. Before amitriptyline, I was a software engineer.  When I started taking ami (I took it for 3 months), my side effects were so bad that I resigned from my job. I went to see my family for support during this time I stooped ami cold turkeys. I was home for 5 months no work. 

This is the story, I consider myself successful:

I was doing part-time Ph.D., during all this withdrawal time, I stayed home and succeeded to submit my thesis (in astrophysics) for evaluation and I graduated in 2017. Now, I got a postdoc position in a  repute astronomical observatory in Europe.  

Well, I noticed that all these time when I was suffering, everything was working well for me. God just make everything possible for me. I got three job offers during this time. I could never imagine myself back, given that on the 09/02/1017  I tried to commit suicide. I am turning 32 now, I spend all my life in education, after 4 years in Ph.D, I got a software engineer job and decided to continue the Ph.D. part-time. I worked in industry for 2 years and it was difficult to concentrate on my thesis. 

Thanks to Amitriptyline I could finish my thesis.

I hope you got it smile. I wish everyone all the best, and I will also stay here to encourage others.

Amazing story Armandolev, just goes to show the tenacity that we all have and pleased that you are also sticking around for a while which I think is important for others finding this forum who are at the beginning of their journey off.

Sheena wow girlfriend nearly there and travelling at the same time just goes to show what we can accomplish by going slow.

Turkessa very gutsy to just quit cold turkey because you ran out of meds! I know you have suffered but you did it and hopefully the residual effects will not hang around for too long. I just hope the weight that I put on will also fall off. 

We we need to definitely pat ourselves on the back we deserve the congratulations as this for all of us has been a difficult journey.

For all the others still suffering withdrawals and ailments keep the faith that it can be done and alternative ways of coping are out there. I wish you all well and keep asking for advice and letting us know what you are going through as it will benefit others out there who stumble across this forum. 

Talk soon xxxxx

 

Hi Everyone,

                     I started my next reduction (skipping every 3rd night)  last night and didn't take anything.  I didn't sleep too well and woke at 5.30am .  I feel a bit grumpy and agitated but that could just be the lack of sleep. For the next two nights I'll go back on 2.5mg then skip the 3rd night continuing for about 2 weeks before the next reduction (skipping every 2nd night).  I really think that all the detoxing I have done in the last few months is REALLY helping me this time.  I did a 7 day detox diet back in October, then in November I did a pre-detox week (cutting out meat, dairy, gluten, sugar, caffeine and alcohol) then a 7 day juice fast then a post-detox week slowly going back to normal foods but still cutting out the things listed before.  Now I am in another pre-detox week and will start a 7 day juice fast on Monday.  I am still going to take the usual supplements while I'm juicing (pro-biotic, fish oil, Vit B, women's mult Vit).  I am on a roll and want to get rid of Ami in approximately a month.  I think this detoxing will help lots.

Thinking of you all at your various stages and hoping we are all much healthier soon

Hi Gibbipicasso, i am off amitriptyline, my last dose was 20/12/17. yes i have had bad days just 3 days ago had  cramping pains again but these are now fewer. It can be done slowly and yes you go through withdrawal but yipee im free xxx

Hope all going well Sheena with your missing days. I am doing well  have many more good days than bad, only get anxiety which, will take tame, and still getting occasional episodes of abdominal cramps. I sleep well so all good really. xx

Hello all

I wanted to inform you that after going back on the pills now i only take half a pill every two nights and sleep is so much better now

Withdrawl working good i assume after two weeks i will be compeletly off the pills for good

Well done xxxxx

Hi Amanda

                  It is so good to hear that you are doing well and finally free of Ami.  It's been along hard slog and you finally made it.  I am so happy for you.  I had a read of our original posts from 11 months ago when we were still so far away from where we are now.  I am so glad we attempted it even though we both had bad experiences coming off it in the past.  I am on day 7 of skipping ever 3rd night and it is going well.  I am in the middle of a 7 day juice fast which makes me feel a little crappy (headaches, bloating and fatigue) but I'm am sleeping pretty well and that's all I ask.  Another week and it'll be down to every 2nd night.  I'll only have two tables left at that stage so they will only last for 2 weeks then it will be down to nothing :-)  I refuse to buy any more just to drag it out longer.  I am pretty happy with the way things are going so don't think I will need to.  

Yay.  Good on us and everyone else here :-) xox

Good work :-)

I am about 3 weeks away from being completely off.

 

Amanda

When you get down to below minimum dose of a drug, like above the time has come where the need to come of the medication becomes terminal and we cease taking medication.

In this case you will need too bite the bullet and stop taking this medication, if yo are still getting side effects you may find the withdrawal effects could be Anxiety.

Come of the drug and move on with your life, any discomfort will soon disappear. I reduce and increase this medication quite regular although I do not stop completely I have no problem. My drug levels at high are 75mg and on low 50mg, I have no problems

Good Luck

BOB

Amazing Amanda congrats girlfriend so happy for you, wow what an accomplishment it was definitely no easy ride but you did it.

Sheena great minds think alike I too have been reading through the posts from the beginning I think I came in about 8 months ago whereas you guys have been around for 11 months amazing achievement we have made since then so glad to have found this forum that was still active so that we all had some great feedback in real time, and the support we have given each other is truly priceless. xxxx

 

Hi, Everyone,

I think I may have stumbled on to a ridiculously easy way to come off Amitriptyline ~ FAST and EASY. I was on a monster dose of Amitriptyline - 150mg!!! to treat Interstitial Cystitis  Syndrome (ICS). My bladder was SO destroyed by lesions and the pain so unbearable, I’d be lying if I said I didn’t consider putting a gun to my head every minute of every day.  I had no side effects from the Ami for quite awhile when I first started taking it.  Plus, whatever side effect I did have, it didn’t come close to being as uncomfortable than the ICS pain. After even longer- years by now - very slowly, I started to experience pretty much every side effect I’ve read on this forum. I also developed these weird facial ticks, my jaw would pop open and shut spontaneously, my right eye would blink rapidly, and my mind got very foggy and I’d forget words, or in the middle of my sentence I’d flat out forget what I was talking about. When I tried to talk, between the muscle ticks, popping jaw, weird memory lapses, rapid blinking, it fully looked as though I had Tourette’s. It was at this point I decided enough was enough and I had to figure out how to wean down or get off the Ami altogether. My urologist was completely against the idea of doing this because the Ami did do wonders for the bladder pain. But I have a medical background and I just kind of sat down, dredged up my pharmaceutical training from way back in the day, and I had a discussion with myself while looking at all the different drugs I was on. You know how that starts: you take a drug to fix a physical or mental problem, you get side effects from that drug, so you take another drug to treat that, and BOOM! ~ you’re in that never ending cycle of taking drugs to treat other drug side effects. 

I was afraid of what would happen with the bladder pain if I tried to wean off the Ami, but at the same time, I just couldn’t deal with all these other wacky problems. One drug I was on is Lorazepam. Everyone will tell you this is such a dangerous drug because it’s so addictive and it’s only meant for short term, blah, blah, woof, woof. But I’ve been on the same exact dose for nearly 15 years, and it is ~ for me ~ the only drug I don’t have side effects from, and that actually treats what it’s supposed to treat. Lorazepam treats a whole host of problems. I took it as an anti-nausea, anti-emetic, anti-anxiety drug because all the other drugs would make me violently sick to my stomach along with terrible nausea, and then I’d fall into a major panic attack - because I knew once I started feeling nauseous, I’d start throwing up soon, and I HATE to vomit, and that’s when the panic would set in. And round and round I’d go. I knew weaning Ami could cause seizures and worse, so I really concentrated on what drug(s) were/was helping or hurting my situation. 

So, as I was sitting down with my bag of drugs and having this discussion with myself, for no reason that I can actually pinpoint, I decided to take a larger dose of Lorazepam. I normally take 2mg at bed time or as needed when nausea or panic set in. I decided to take 6mg. In 20 minutes FLAT, all the muscle twitching, rapid blinking, and jaw popping just ... stopped. Honest to god, it just stopped as if a switch had been flipped off.  I figured this was a fluke and any minute it would start up again. That was over 3 weeks ago. I’ve not had ANY withdrawal symptoms (except a little bit more thirsty than usual, but very mild). My bladder - so far, knock on wood, has been fine, I’ve had no seizures, I’m sleeping fine. It is the closest thing to a miracle that I’ve ever experienced. 

I think most doctors would be horrified to hear this because 6mg of Lorazepam is a BIG dose. But since I’d been on 2mg for nearly half my life and it never caused me any problems, I figured what the hell, you know? Plus, it was a one time deal. I took the 6mg, the craziness stopped, and I went right back to my usual dose of 2mg.  And actually, I’m even taking less than that because I’m not sick and vomiting or having panic attacks because my bladder is doing pretty damn good. Still, at only 3 weeks, who knows if it will come back. If it does, and I have to start taking Ami again, at least now I know - for me - how to get off it if it starts causing problems. 

So, for those of you who have never had Lorazepam, I’d ask your doctor for a mild dose, like maybe 2mg. If you have taken it or are on a small dose, I’d bump it up just a bit. Just make sure you’re with somebody in case you get into trouble. My husband was with me and he said he could visibly see the muscles in my face relax and when I did speak, there were no lost words, no forgetting what I was saying mid-sentence, etc. 

If you are on other meds, make sure Lorazepam is not contraindicated with any of them. 

The funny thing is that Ami and Lorazepam are like 8th generation cousins. Ami originally was a mood enhancer/panic attack drug. But people discovered all kinds of off label problems that it helped. So, I don’t honestly know why this formula worked for me, and I don’t know if it will help other people having problems with Ami, but at the very worst, Lorazepam will probably put you to sleep for 2 days if you’re not somewhat used to it. 

Also, Lorazepam, Valium, and Xanax are all sister drugs, but they tend to have different effects. For example, Valium does nothing for me at all. Xanax puts me to sleep, but it doesn’t help with panic attacks or nausea and vomiting. Lorazepam does everything it’s supposed to for me with zero side effects. But I can give my husband .5mg, and he’s out like a light for 3 days and wakes up with a hangover for another 2 days. He hates Lorazepam.  Point is, drugs work totally different with different people. The Lorazepam performed a miracle for me. I have no idea how it will work for anyone else out there. But I felt obligated to share this info just in case it helps someone else, and I hope it does. GOOD LUCK and many blessings to you all. 

P.S. If any of you try this, I’d be very interested in seeing how things go. I’ll keep checking in every now and then to see.  If anyone has questions, I’m happy to answer to the best of my ability. 

Read my post up above. I got off Ami in 20 minutes, with Zero side effects or withdrawal symptoms, and I haven’t taken ANY Ami since. I hope it keeps going that way.  Feel free to ask questions. Good Luck!

                                                                         ~ Edie

Hi Eddie so how long is it since you stopped the amitryptyline. My withdrawal didn't start until 6 weeks after I stopped.

Hi Edie 

i am glad that this seems to have worked for you, I would be interested in hearing from you in about 3 months to see if all is still going well, you have been on these drugs for a long time according to your post so it would be interesting to see how long it takes for all residual effects to go if they they come at all. It may indeed be a miracle for you. My concern is that anyone reading your post would actually try it. I have been on Lorazepam and was on 3mg a day which even though it has a shorter half life than Valium is equal to approximately 30 mg so your 6mg one time dose would have an equivalence to about 60mg Valium which is so big a dose. It took me 4 years of horrendous side effects to get from 30mg to 5mg.

i am not criticising what you have done and obviously it has worked for you but I would be remiss if I didn't disagree with your method, others that read this may think this is a great quick solution to their problem but personally IMO I consider this type of dosage with no medical guidance dangerous for the majority of people who will read these posts.

I wish you the best and please keep us posted as to how it goes. I know for me when I made cuts it would sometimes take weeks before I felt any effects. I hope this doesn't happen to you.xxxx

Hi sheena glad your doing well, not long now. I am 4 weeks off ami now and i am still getting some symptoms. I experience episodes of awful cramps a couple of times a week and when i say awful i mean doubled up abdominal cramps, i then get diarrhoea then back to normal for a few days. Anxiety remains and these strange bowel problems dont help xx 

Hi Sammy, feel great being off ami , 4 weeks tomorrow. Still have anxiety and 2/3 x a week get awful abdo cramps which give me diarrhoea then back to normal. It is like i have developed IBS lol x how are you doing?