I have read more than once that LS clears up temporarily after a round of antibiotics. I know we don't want to be on antibiotics all the time but is there any benefit in being on a natural antibiotic such as garlic all the time? Would it prevent flareups? I'm sorry if this is a dumb question. I just think there must be a clue as to why antibiotics have that effect.
I completed a round of prednezone due too a knee injury and noticed that I have not itched since. Wondering if there is a connection
Apparently it IS possible to be put on a low permanent maintenance dose of antibiotics - not sure what I think to that!
Happened to me - with the anti biotics the LS stopped. It was at a time that nothing seemed to stop the raging of my LS. Fusing all in short period of time. Having difficulties passing urine. It was then that my doctor prescribed anti biotics, afraid for a bladder infection. It stopped only temporarily. An unexpected side affect.
To be on anti biotics all the time is not a good idea. It kills also good bacteria. How can you restore that while on anti biotics all the time?
I agree that's not a good idea. Do you think any natural antibiotics would have same effect?
There's a doc from Germany that works out of Ottawa, ontario. She tests for strains of bacteria and treats accordingly. Any possibility that LS can originate with a bacteria strain that responds to the antibiotics? And that if it was addressed the LS would be cured. Wishful thinking....
I believe she uses homeopathic treatment
What about topical antibiotics, some sort of cream that would contain the correct antibiotic needed, it would be much less invasive.
Hmmm. Interesting thought.
There is a lot of unknown. Said that, there are doctors who seem to have knowledge different from the norm. Perhaps there is someone among them who knows more about how to cure skin diseases. Worth investigating.
How long did antibiotics halt the LS?
Hard to say. I had the dilation procedure soon after. Then I started with the baking soda and coconut oil, plus the diet and from there the LS fusions and white layers ever so gradually did their process in reverse. And still continuing. (there was a lot of 'reversing' to do)
Sad part is - why did it have to be detected so late? If this would have been treated years earlier I probably would have been totally symptom free by now.
O well, I'm on my way and will continue to do what I'm doing.
That really is very sad. I'm so glad you are finding answers but it sounds as tho you suffered terribly. Were you already diagnosed at that point and on steroids or was that when you got diagnosed?
Laini, prednisone is a steroid. My mother depended on it for 35 years for rheumatoid arthritis. I imagine if she ever had LS, the drugs have kept it in check, just incidentally. But it would be overkill for LS alone and not worth the long term side effects. It kept her from being totally disabled, but there were many side effects.
It has crossed my mind, but I'm pretty sure habitual use of antibiotic cream would not be good.
I recently was on an antibiotic...very strong and it did nothing for my LS...also, topical did not help me. If you want to try something natural consider olive leaf extract. Be certain you purchase it from a reputable source. Here is a good explanation that I found online that will explain it's benefits better than I can.
One of the primary compounds in olive leaf, a substance called oleuropein, has attracted scientific attention since the early 1900s. An iridoid by definition, oleuropein exhibits antibacterial, antiviral and antifungal activity, and is useful for fighting various types of internal infections. Oleuropein also appears to increase the body’s production of thermogenin, a substance that helps us to burn fat more efficiently.
In early studies, oleuropein demonstrated blood pressure-lowering properties. Studies conducted in Milan have shown that this compound is a potent antioxidant, inhibiting the oxidation of lipids in the blood, and lowering the risk of cardiovascular disease. In fact, the antioxidant activity of olive leaf is higher than that of green tea. A significant body of science shows that antioxidant compounds derived from plants provide profound health benefits, and help to reduce the risk of many chronic and degenerative diseases.
Olive leaf is an especially good source of the anti-cancer compounds apigenin and luteolin, and is a source of the anti-malarial agent cinchonine. And oleuropein has also shown protective capabilities against breast cancer.
Olive leaf extract also acts as an anti-inflammatory. Like oxidation, inflammation is a key factor in chronic and degenerative diseases. Animal studies additionally suggest that olive leaf extract may protect against nerve damage, and may be of value in cases of stroke.
As I mentioned in several other posts, anytime the skin barrier is damaged, it becomes fertile ground for bacterial colonization. Often, antibiotic-resistant strains of Staphylococcus Aureus are involved, as in the case of 90% of eczema patients. This may be why LS patients respond partially to antibiotic therapy. Antibiotics are also known to have a mild anti-inflammatory action, which may help relieve part of the symptoms.
if you want to access some recent scientific information about a very effective natural antibiotic and anti-inflammatory plant that combats many tough-to-beat strains of bacteria including the Methicilin-resistant strain of Staphylococcus Aureus, please type Topical Applications of St. John's Wort Silae in your search engine. If you then become interested in trying it, please make sure that you are not taking any medication that may interact with it.
I have completely cured myself from a slightly different skin disease called Lichen Simplex Chronicus, also considered incurable and stress/immune-related, after only 6 months of St. John's Wort oral therapy. Nothing I tried in both conventional and natural medicine, was remotely close at being this effective against the disease, during 20 years of suffering.
Good luck!
As Morrell says prednisolone is a steroid which is given for acute inflammatory conditions that are not normally infected (as the anti inflammatory actiion will inhibit the natural bug fighting capacity of the body). The long term effect of oral and injectable can cause the thinning of the bones, so not a Good Thing for everyday continual use. It is easy to have too much and it MUST not be stopped suddenly, one HAS to be weaned off as it can cause shock and possibly death.
While clobetasol is a VERY potent steroid, because of our condition not enough is absorbed systemically into our bodies to pose such risks
Antibiotics too are unnecessary to use in the long term if there is no infection. It is a big problem internationally that overuse of them is causing the human race to become resisitant to the normal antibiotic chemicals currently in use The bugs- bacteria- are adapting too and getting more dangerous. Overuse of antibiotics by "the worried well" could, in the near future result in deaths from simple scratches and chest infections as they did up until the middle of the 20th century.
There are side effects from antibiotics too - mainly in the gut where the "Good" bacteria are killed off and yeasts and other "bad" bugs thrive. To countact some of these affects it is said eating natural live yoghurt will help. You may have heard of C.Dif a deadly form of diarrhoea caused by overuse of antibiotics in the elderly.
so over all Not a Good Idea
Sue
Thank you Greg, I made note of that.
Hi sandra, LS is thought to be an immune system reaction and antibiotics as well as disrupting the gut flora also suppresses the immune system. So it makes sense that LS could be suppressed when using antibiotics. Not a good idea to be on antibiotics for long as one can become more susceptible to yeast infections like candida. Vit.A+C and health herbs are a safer bet. Garlic is good but best eaten raw, a clove a day to be effective. Garlic capsules are a bit of a sell and not much use.
I love garlic and eat a lot of it, but it hasn't had any miracle effect on my LS. However, when I have been on a dose of antibiotics, it definitely clears up until I finish the treatment, at which time it comes back again!!
Love the idea though!!