I'm new to PEMF, but need to lower my BP quickly -- it rose from having stress/anxiety for to go to ER at the hospital and complications.
bob31550...At this moment, I can't suggest anything to you because I don't know what PEMF is. Would you please be so kind as to explain? Also, lowering the bp too quickly can be just as dangerous as high spikes.Be very careful about this. Stress/anxiety is an enemy of the human body. It can do all sorts of nasty things, including elevating bp.
Please get back to me with whatever PEMF is.
Not sure that PEMF therapy is available/recommended here in the UK and even if it was I doubt many people would pay the price. I've seen $4,000 quoted for the equipment, so I doubt you will hear from many, if any, with previous experience.
As for lowering your BP "quickly", I doubt there is any magic bullet equipment that would do that especially not permanently. The best way to approach reducing high BP is via lifestyle such as exercise and diet, lowering intake of foods containing salt and caffeine and avoiding stress. If stress is a factor, then Yoga, Tai Chi and Mindfulness can all help.
If anyone does embark on PEMF therapy, beware paying out such a high price for something that might just be a sales gimmick. Also be very aware of the contraindications of such therapy by reading the following link: https://almagia.com/articles/pemf-contraindications/  
Not sure that PEMF therapy is available/recommended here in the UK and even if it was I doubt many people would pay the price. I've seen $4,000 quoted for the equipment, so I doubt you will hear from many, if any, with previous experience.
As for lowering your BP "quickly", I doubt there is any magic bullet equipment that would do that especially not permanently. The best way to approach reducing high BP is via lifestyle such as exercise and diet, lowering intake of foods containing salt and caffeine and avoiding stress. If stress is a factor, then Yoga, Tai Chi and Mindfulness can all help.
If anyone does embark on PEMF therapy, beware paying out such a high price for something that might just be a sales gimmick. Also be very aware of the contraindications of such therapy - I have a link but if I post it here it will be held up by the moderators.
Here is the link to the contraindications of the PEMF therapy - hope the moderators post it:
MrsO-UK Surrey...I couldn't agree with you more. There is no magic "cure" for hypertension. I cannot be cured, but can be 'controlled'. As I've written in my post, suddenly lowering bp can be just as dangerous as high bp. A gradual lowering is always best. I've never heard of PEMF therapy, & would be very skeptical about it. It makes me wonder how such a therapy would last...would a person's bp readings be lower for a short period of time, say a few hours, then it would necessitate them using the machine again. People talk about drinking certain teas, eating this/that..but what about when they go on holiday? Do they carry this stuff with them? I hardly think so.
Again, I'm very skeptical about quick fixes., & what might be good for one, may be dangerous for another.
Hi, Mrs.O, thanks for your reply. (Haven't seen them all - others are pending moderation).
I ordered a $75 PEMF on Amazon, and got a $350 MP6 which I've been using for 3 days only. Have seen two detailed Japanese studies and the study/treatment notes PDF from the Greek PEMF device manufacturer's site, under "Philippine study". These helped me determine where to place the PEMF's paddle on my body. Yesterday, had an effect which could not be a Placebo Effect: My eyesight became perfect from noon to 5pm - I was so happy that I cried. My vision went back to where it was, but I'm pulsing again, to lower my BP. I've now read in vivo and in vitro studies that PEMF devices do lower blood pressure. My heart rate has also gone down from my "normal" of 85 BPM to 80 BPM. The Japanese studies show that two weeks is where the changes become durable.
One of my friends had a PEMF eight years ago, and he didn't see any health changes.
Another friend has an MP6 for a month, and it helped dog get better as well as her leg pain.
As far a way out of Hypertension, Dr. Greger, who wrote a book that was #6 on the NY Times bestseller list, has a video/webpage where he talks about studies on diet and Hypertension and aging. I'm following Dr. Greger, and my diet changes have only been a couple of days old, so nothing to report yet. He says on video that in Kenya, from hospital reports, there is practically zero heart disease.
I don't let Limiting Beliefs get in a way of curing my body's ails, Mike.
The Law of Attraction (aka Law of Appreciation) has always worked to get me out for my health problems, even though a few times, I felt totally trapped. Thanks for the Law of Attraction group meetings that I attend, my hopeless-views were "corrected", and as of yesterday afternoon, I was back on the warp-speed happy life that I had (not disease-free, but symptom-free, which was the exact opposite of my condition, just 4-5 days ago, when I was spending most of my day in Emergency Dept., ultrasouonds, at a hospital and doctors' offices.)
Mike, one more thing: I got a good education about getting rid of hypertension by flax seed meal (diet change, no animal products, even fish) from Dr. Greger's website.
Bob, it sounds as though you already have the testimonies of friends as to results from PEMF therapy. However, our bodies are all different in the way we present with our health conditions and will therefore respond differently to each medication or therapy applied. Each of us has to find what works best for us and if PEMF works for you, then far be it for me to knock it, placebo effect or not.
As you have made changes to your diet at the same time as trying PEMF therapy, it is going to be difficult to judge which is working for you, but I would place bets on the recommended diet/exercise recommendations for hypertension and kidney disease - we are what we eat!
I agree with your statements, and that's why I (a new PEMF device owner) opened this thread, to see what results PEMF users are getting.
There are many brands, models, and also, there are different ways of positioning the magnetic, settings, etc.
Re: Diet, I agree with Food As Medicine, as a very recent convert.
Cheers!
MrsO, tonight, I noticed my heart rate is 10+ BPM lower than my usual 88+ usual BPM. Is this generally good?
The Systolic is 3-4 pts lower (maybe due to more than one factor).
As comparison, I'm able to lower my Systolic 15 pts by breathing technique only, as taught by the famous Dutch ice swimmer with 26 world records. However, that 15 pt. change isn't "durable" if I don't do the breathing excercises several times a day.
Bob, a normal resting heart rate is between 60 and 100, so I don't understand why you are querying/monitoring it if you say your "usual" rate is 88+. Not good to get obsessive about such 'stuff' as that just places unnecessary stress on the body.
"However, that 15 pt. change isn't "durable" if I don't do the breathing excercises several times a day."
As I've hinted at in previous replies, no therapy for high BP is "durable" if not continued, no doubt including your PEMF - that's why our BP meds are continuous.
Thanks for your reply.
I prefer to go non-meds if I can.
Dr Greger's videos led me to studies that show a durable, non-med, hypertension solution. Am trying Dr Greger's, various power levels and various pulser placement on my body, and will go back to the TCM this week for a hypertension herbal remedy.
Cheers!
Please use a search engine for PEMF info. Also, the mods don't like links.
In respect, specifically, to Hypertension and PEMF, there are few studies only. It took many days to track down WHERE to place the pulser on my body; and how long to use, etc. etc.
The best studies were the two Japanese ones (published in a "Georgian" (Russian) English-Russian magazine, and the "Philippine Study" (actually, a practitioner's treatment notes) on the Greek maker's webpage of studies or references.
However, my magnetic pulser isn't the same as the ones in the studies. Also, my MP6 has two power settings (and pulsing speeds).
That's why I want to see how other PEMF owners have progressed.
Cheers!
It is actually available to NHS patients in the UK. PEMF did not at first ring any bells with me until I googled it.
It is pulsed electro magnetic field therapy. I bought an ultrasound device to treat tendonitis that came with a return option if did not benefit me and I returned it.,They then offered me a PEMF version that I did not take up. This was in 2013.
If you have been DX hypertension, besides using a) Diet, b) Lifestyle, and c) Meds to lower your BP, it always a good idea to have tests to see WHY your BP is up. Initially a blood test might give clues to some background ailment causing BP to rise.
That's interesting! I've had maybe 10 blood tests in ER, from several doctors, just since Sept 1st, and nobody has given any comment at all, re hypertension.
Conns...you have a very good point here about blood tests. I do have something going on in my body...very sore upper trapezius muscles, Osteoarthritis in parts of the shoulder, some calcium deposits as well...Also the right shoulder has tendonosis., no calcium, but there is evidence of impingement. My blood tests come back normal, which boggles the mind...Yes my bp is elevated..
I'm a firm believer in the theory that bp rises when something is going on in the body. It's the body's way of saying..."something's not right here". I'm at wits end with it all. I'm having trigger point injections, but as of this writing, I'm not getting much relief from them. Perhaps I need a stronger dose, or the Dr. needs to inject the right side as well, instead of just concentrating on the left. We're awaiting MRI results on the left shoulder. He said that depending on what the MRI tells us, he'll refer me to a surgeon. The ultrasound revealed the calcific regions, the OA, etc.etc., so I don't know what else the MRI would possibly reveal.
Mike,
As you say BP going up could well be a symptom of something else going on. If you are lucky, docs track down the culprit and take it from there. Sometimes elevated BP is up due to such things as narrowing of and artery(s) which in itself is a difficult one to fix. When I have blood tests I always ask for a printed copy and check to see if electrolytes, and ideally to see where abouts within the perceived normal range they are. E.g. potassium at 3.9 is normal for many but not for me [Range in UK 3.5 to 5.3]. Nothing is ever straightforward with BP issues.