Apparently I'm a "normal" woman!!!

Hi ladies,

Well I finally had my gyne consultation today and boy was I annoyed, dismayed, confused, upset........!!!!

Apparently, as I'm having regular periods I'm NOT menopausal nor am I peri menopausal!!!!  I was gobsmacked to say the least.  So WHY did my doctor put me on HRT for 3 years and why am I experiencing bodily and mood changes?  HRT never helped my hot sweats much to be honest but I was on a low dose.  My mood has gone downhill , I've gained so much weight and I've noticed changes with my periods even if they haven't actually stopped or even missed yet!!  My hormone tests were normal and according to the consultant if I'm still having periods then I'm ovulating regularly etc etc!!!

So at the age of 51 I've yet to even start any peri symptoms.  I'm just totally bewildered.  IF I'm not peri then what is causing my symptoms?

Anyone advise above and beyond a Gyne Consultant who reckons she has done her job for years and knows better than us women on a forum!!  Her words not mine    It's MY body and I know what is going on regardless of how long she has worked as a Gyne Consultant!!

E. xx

P.S.  Feeling so damn p**** off right now

I know how you feel. My DRs refuse to acknowledge what is happening to me and I have ALLOT OF symptoms. I am 33 & a family history of early menopause (35 & 40) but because my blood tests are normal & periods regular (although only 3 days) I am normal!! I'm suffering and been offered anti Ds which I'm sensitive too and although they refuse to acknowledge peri haven't come up with a better diagnosis / explanation sad frustrating! Today my head hurts, I'm fuzzy and feel odd and want to scream ...

Well what can I say another professional who dont know what they are talking about! !!

I was going to my doctor for three years from the age of 40. All the time they were telling me its not perimenopause your depressed! !! Fast forward to now im 48 and still getting horrific symptoms they now are saying oh yes your in perimenopause. I knew this 8 years ago. It was onky through doing my own research on the Internet that I knew what was happening to me.

In this day and age and still these so called professionals have no idea what its all about.

You know your body better than anyone else. Its only this last year ive been missing periods but had symptoms long before that.

So dont be to concerned about what they say.

Take care x

I've only now Been acknowledged as menopausal after my last period was 3 yrs ago

My doctor told me if your still having regular periods your not in menopause but mine just stopped then nothing else ???

Thanks ladies for all the replies.  At least I'm not on my own!

I sympathise nixnix, Michelle I KNOW I'm having peri symptoms and the consultant hasn't got a clue what they are talking about.  Just makes me so mad when they are supposed to help and they don't! 

Cazjaz - I wish my periods would just stop or at least miss then it would confirm I'm in peri.

I forgot to mention that the consultant refused to give me HRT again due to the side effects but because I was arguing the fact that I know I'm in peri and I also have heavy periods, she offered me the Mirena coil.  I've never had a coil fitted in my life and I don't fancy it to be honest.  It's still HRT but less risky than the tablet form.  It releases the hormone when it's placed in the womb and I would use a gel/cream to rub into my skin.  I think the consultant only offered it me to get me out of her consulting room!!  I've to go back in 3 months to let her know if I want it, but I can say now I don't!

So ladies I will ride the storm - naturally - for as long as I can stand it.  Then when I'm at screaming point I will demand the HRT tablet form from my doctor!!

Sorry for the rant.....do I sound like a menopausal woman? lol

Hiya

Well I can only say that I'm as gobsmacked as you must feel!!

I too am still regular as clockwork (aside from earlier this month that arrived late:  boy was I disappointedsad, but hoping its a sign of changes in cycle to come??) but have quite a few Peri symptoms.  I'm 54 - you're a mere kid to me! - so I can honestly say I was shocked to read that with us having very similar symptoms, you've been deemed not yet Peri! 

Did you have blood test results to confirm her belief that you're still ovulating??

I was always given the impression that you CAN still be bleeding regularly but not necessarily ovulating:   or why else would GPs give us specific HRT for those women who are still bleeding regularly???

I attempted to talk about Peri with my Nurse Practitioner last November. Said I was a bit moany/tearful (joked about welling up watching 'Dont Tell The Bride'!!) The Silly Cow prescribed me SSRIs (anti D-type stuff they love to thrust at us       'women of age' these days). Not for me thanks.

Big wake up call for me: would appear its very common for Peri symptoms. But its also very common for many of us women not even to meet the criteria to be prescribed such meds. Even my ol' man had no idea why she thought I needed them, and he's no Hero: afterall he lives with me 24/7!!  Told myself 'do a bit of research girl, get yourself some vitimins and sit and wait'.......and wait.....and wait.

Two of my sisters keep encouraging me to go get some HRT, but I honestly don't think I need it just yet.  I started taking Menopace Original in Jan, along with some Serenity Prog Cream: feel great in the big scheme of things. But I do think it's defiinitely the combo together that works as I stopped applying the cream for a week and felt like I did last November - aching like a 90yr old again.  Slap!  on went the cream again, and the aches 'miraculously' improved! Maybe that the HRT that'll work for me??

I know a lot of ladies on this forum are not fans of these bioidentical Prog Creams, but for me I think I'll use it until things start to really change.  What with my own 'bombshell news' this week, I really need to keep myself free of brain fog, panicking, need to stay in control so I can take on board the life-changing decisions I've got to be part of. 2015 is going to be a very defining year for us, that's for sure.eek

No doubt the ref to this forum got the Gynae's back up.  I think on reflection I may choose to speak to a male Doc when the time comes, as I find women talking to other women about their 'female' issues are not always sympathetic. The childless, female Obstetrician springs to mind.....as does the lovely, lovely male midwife I used to see during ante natal appointments.  I think women think we should just 'man up', and men, well they see us as something completely different, I'm sure.

So you're back to chewing the ol' man's ear off then?  I bet he was as disappointed as you!!! Seriously, I do think our blokes do have to put up with a bit, and some, from us at this time in our lives.  Fortunately, I've always been a nutty cow, so my one's used to me going off on one/going at it like a dog with a bone on a regular basis. 

So what now Elaine?  Blood tests for your thyroid might a good idea - another of those lovely age-related things us girls have to expect.  Just don't reach for the chocolate.....I'm struggling with my weight, even joined Slimming World (bloody hell: I have not stopped thinking of eating/food ALL day, EVERY day its nuts!).  I think I have to remind myself that my age/stage in life is conspiring against me, and if I manage to lose a pound a week, I should be grateful.  (Not helped by sitting next to a girl in her 30s who's lost 6st9lb, to my paultry 1.5lbs!!!! 14-21lb off for me would be brilliant).

Chin Up Kiddo.  You're right:  you do know your OWN body and how YOU feel.  And as we all know, blood tests for hormone levels are so changeable/inconclusive. 

Keep posting Elaine because you ARE in good company on this forum!winkx

Sx

 

Actually, I've only just read this bit, before posting my epic post to you!

Why not give the Mirena a go?  I believe its used to treat Peri as it releases hormones (Progesterone??).  Its supposed to lighten bleeds/sometimes stops them.  I've read of a few ladies on here who have said they felt brilliant after having one fitted - moods improved etc.

I'd have one I think. Did try to have one inserted years ago when they first came out, but my tw*t of a Doctor couldn't fit it in me the A-hole!!  I ended up with my legs akimbo, shouting at him to 'Put something else in then!!!' - I suppose I was lucky to have got  away with just a copper mini 7 coil!!!lol

Put up another discussion thread:  'Anyone felt the benefits of a Mirena Coil for Peri Symptoms' - I'm sure you'll be inundated with replies/info, some bad, but I bet most are really positive.

Its worth thinking about.......and besides, I hear you can pick up Sky TV for freelollol

Yep:  you're Peri alright!!

Sx

Oohh Shaznay I don't know what is next?   I've had all my blood tests including thyroid and they came back as normal.  My liver function test is slightly above the normal range and has just been repeated.  I'm waiting for the results.

I've always struggled with my weight so when I lost over a stone when on HRT I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread!!  When I was aged 40 I went to Weight Watchers and it took me 2 years but I lost 4 stone.  I was determined not to be fat and forty!  Instead I'm fat and 50!!   

I don't fancy the Mirena coil as when I asked if it's painful when they fit it there was a long pregnant pause then the consultant said errrm no it's just a bit uncomfortable.  Had enough of people rummaging around inside my bits and pieces when I was pregnant.  Don't fancy all that again.  Although I finished my subscription with Sky so perhaps I should seriously think about the coil then??!! lol :-)

Must admit my only guilty pleasure is chocolate and I am turning to it and must have some each day.  Other than that, I don't smoke, don't drink, well only socially and I'm not out on the tiles that often so it's my only treat!  I don't binge eat or have massive portions so I guess I better get myself to a gym!  I really think you have to be in the right frame of mind to focus on dieting and I am just NOT in the mood to be honest.  Been there and done that, worn the t/shirt and but the bloody weight all back on!!  Excuse my French!

I tell you something, since stopping HRT my language has become rather colourful :0  Wonder if I should blame peri for that too? lol

I may post about the Mirena Coil and see what comes back.  I clench my teeth at the thought of it though!

E. xx

Reading a lot of posts etc maybe I shouldn't be in this group as you all talk about Peri I'm now post and only realised this from this group! Maybe I might bore you with what I say

LOL! LOL! classic

My GYN told me the same thing that I was not in peri because I'm still seeing regular periods. Poppycock! We do know our bodies better than they do. My GYN is a male. I have a female General practitioner and she said that based on my symptoms that I am in peri. She told me she's in her 30's and is experiencing some of the same symptoms. So unless these doctors are a female and are going through the same thing, they have no frame of reference.

I haven't had any tests to say i am menopausal but i know at 51 i am, we know our own bodies better than any doctors

With just about every other ailment/condition, the NHS has nurse specialists, support groups etc. i think its hugely underestimated how menopause rocks our lives and worse, that we are left to muddle through in abject misery for sometimes years. I feel Im losing years of quality life and would be happy to be left on my own rather than have to face the world.....Im NOT depressed, just hugely frustrated with the way I feel and look. BMI over 30 despite good diet and loads of exercise. got to go, having a hot flush! X

Sorry to hear u had such an unsatisfactory outcome . Ive found in last six months of goin thru this there is just no support at all for us women we just gotta cope on our own n if it wasnt for this forum i wudve cracked up long time ago n i think ladies r right we know our own bodies better than anyone x hope u feel better soon xx

No stay, give us advice . . . you've reached the light at the end of our tunnel!

Well I'm not at the end just yet lol but it is getting better to how I was in the peri stage that was just a dreadful phase of my life I wouldn't wish on anyone and I see so many others experiencing it now which at the time I didn't know what it was just thought I was having a breakdown but since reading stuff on this group it was my peri menopause

Bless you for your encouragement. Yes I would describe it as feeling like your having a breakdown. A long one. This last year has been unbearable and periods further apart. Am wondering if im at the worst? X

Hi Elaine, yep been there done that &got the T-shirt. On both occasions that I have been the doctors &seen 2 different gp's. I'm to young to b peri (I'm 45) &because I'm regularly on my periods no I cannot b peri!!!!!!. So as well as load more they are saying no! Tour not peri! Unless my mother/ sister went through a early menopause, I'm told NO. So again I have to go for more blood tests ( because my sleeping has become affected (I don't suffer from night sweats) so again it's immposible I carnt b peri). Mood swings are erratic naming a few others she swears I'm not peri!!!!!!!!. Reading different posts its humiliating embarising and unfair how these doctors make u feel. In this day and age seeing a gp why are they not trained / qualified to know more about peri? I know I'm peri from November 2014 I started getting symptoms. It's my mood swings I'm concerned about I'm just wondering does anyone have any idea what I could purchase over the counter at a chemist? 

Hi hun

All I can say is everything you have written could have been me writing it. Im 48 been in perimenopause 8 years. Periods becoming further apart now.I went on an AD mirtazapine in Nov I couldn't cooe with the anxiety and depression. As for over the counter stuff 5htp from Holland and the os good for moods and sleep. These cannot be taken if you are on an AD though.