Oh wow. That must be tough. You are young to of gone threw that. Do u smoke? Unfortunatky I'm a smoker
Lol same here. I wanna know but on the other hand I dont.
Hi jade, not any more stopped 8 yrs ago, 2 yrs later had the bypass apparently I had had a heart attack years before as there was a lot of damage. Don't whats best anymore, some times I feel like just flushing the meds down the toilet, it is just so annoying when nobody will listen to you.
Yes I was a smoker! I quit that day I had my heart attack and went to hospital :-)
Don't know if you agree but there isn't much aftercare for heart patients once rehabilitation is over once a year get bloods, weight and blood pressure checked with the nurse that's it. I had an appointment with a cardiologist about 2 Months after the op and all he kept saying was why did you start smoking in the first place wasn't interested in how I was feeling, I felt I was wasting his time and felt like that ever since made to feel guilty about being a smoker!!!
Jade, if you have only Blood pressure problems and no other heart related problems, you shouldn't be taking Beta blockers.
In the past, Beta blockers were the first choice both for a treatment of a high blood pressure and for all types of heart related problems, but in the last few years Beta blockers are the 3rd or the 4th choice in a treatment of a high blood pressure.
You can Google about 1st choice drugs for high blood pressure in recent years.
Anyway, if you don't have any other medical problems and if you are taking ONLY Bisoprolol (and not 2-3 different drugs for a high blood pressure) then imo, you should ask your doc for a different type of drugs (not Beta blockers).
Here are some articles about Beta blockers used in hypertension in the recent era:
1. London, UK - New UK recommendations for the treatment of hypertension have been published that no longer include beta blockers as first-line or even second- or third-line drugs for patients with uncomplicated hypertension. Beta blockers are, however, still recommended for patients who also have CHD.
2. In the past 4 decades, beta blockers (BBs) have been widely used in the treatment of uncomplicated hypertension and are still recommended as first-line agents in national and international guidelines. Their putative cardioprotective properties, however, derive from the extrapolation into primary prevention of data relative to the reduction of mortality observed in the 1970s in patients with previous myocardial infarctions. In the past 5 years, a critical reanalysis of older trials, together with several meta-analyses, has shown that in patients with uncomplicated hypertension BBs exert a relatively weak effect in reducing stroke compared to placebo or no treatment, do not have any protective effect with regard to coronary artery disease and, compared to other drugs, such as calcium channel blockers, renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system inhibitors or thiazide diuretics, show evidence of worse outcomes, particularly with regard to stroke. Several reasons can explain their reduced cardioprotection: their suboptimal effect in lowering blood pressure compared to other drugs; their "pseudoantihypertensive" efficacy (failure to lower central aortic pressure); their undesirable adverse effects, which reduce patients' compliance; their unfavorable metabolic effects; their lack of an effect on regression of left ventricular hypertrophy and endothelial dysfunction. In conclusion, the available evidence does not support the use of BBs as first-line drugs in the treatment of hypertension. Whether newer BBs, such as nebivolol and carvedilol, which show vasodilatory properties and a more favorable hemodynamic and metabolic profile, will be more efficacious in reducing morbidity and mortality remains to be determined.
3. Beta-blocker drugs such as Tenormin (atenolol), Inderal (propranolol) and Lopressor (metoprolol) should not be a doctor’s first choice for treating high blood pressure, according to a major review of studies.
The research, details of which appear in the latest issue of The Cochrane Library and carried out by The Cochrane Collaboration, found that patients on beta-blockers had a higher risk of death and cardiovascular disease than
patients who used calcium channel blockers such as Norvasc (amlodipine) and Cardizem (diltiazem) to manage their blood pressure. The review also found that patients who took diuretics such as hydrochlorothiazide or RAS inhibitors, such as Altace (ramipril), and Cozaar (losartan), had risks similar to those taking beta-blockers.
Dr Charles Shey Wiysonge of the Ministry of Public Health in Cameroon, who led the new review, said that “the available evidence does not support the use of beta-blockers as first-line drugs in the treatment of hypertension”. He added that the latest Cochrane review of beta-blockers was different from other recent studies because it compared beta-blockers head-to-head against specific antihypertensive medications, rather than comparing them against all other high blood pressure medicines as a group.
After combing through 13 studies of 91,561 patients, Dr Wiysonge and colleagues found no difference in the risk of death or cardiovascular disease among those who used beta-blockers, diuretics and RAS inhibitor drugs.
However, the absolute risk of death was a half a per cent greater among beta-blocker users compared to those taking calcium channel blockers.
In addition, patients taking beta-blockers had a 1.3% increase in the risk of cardiovascular disease, mostly strokes, compared to those taking calcium channel blockers. Dr Wiysonge also noted that “patients who used beta-blockers were more likely to experience undesirable effects and abandon their antihypertension medications” compared to patients who took diuretics or RAS inhibitors.
In January this year, a review of 22 studies published in The Lancetsuggested another downside to using beta-blockers to treat high blood pressure. Researchers from Rush University Medical Center in Chicago concluded that diuretics and beta-blocker treatments may increase the chances of developing type 2 diabetes.
Lead author Dr William Elliott said antihypertensive drugs such as ACE inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers — types of RAS drugs — were associated with the lowest risk of developing diabetes.
Thank You bob. My thoughts exactly. Yep I was told I was on them strictly for my bp. I dont have a chwck up untill July. I just hope I last untill then 😬
I feel the same after just 3 months. I can't imagine how U feel after this long. I almost want to cut the dose myself or stop but I heard that can be rather dangerous. Only problem is I know there going to tell me they put me on the best meds for me. Today I'm doing really bad. Keep feeling dizzy. So so tired even after 9 hours sleep. And my legs just ache so bad ill move around for a bit and then there start tingling and ache. Ugh. I know im moaning on sorry lol
I really need to quit. Just another thing I can't seem to do. This whole thing is dragging me down
It's not easy at all..
It was easy for me as I went into hospital so it was ok DONE~
It didn't take long to wonder why I actually smoked anyway. Now it smells strong, and its a turn off... I still have the odd occasional craving.
Go and ask someone sooner. There are so many BP medications you could try. Unless there is a particular reasons your cardiologist is using a beta blocker. Sometimes they use things as its best long term for us.
I have thought I want to do that too.
But please do not ever stop your beta blocker without consent. It can cause you more problems. Especially just cold turkey hey have to be tapered or weaned off.
Some time ago I asked my GP if I could try a lower dosage of the Bisoprolol. He said I could but, doing that would make my heart race so, chose not to.
Nasty drug!!!!I was on it for 3 months. I felt like I could not get off the sofa. Like a zombie. My hands and feet were so cold, and my heart rate and blood pressure were so low.
And then there was the stopping of it to have an ablation. I was told it was okay to just stop. Well, it was not
I had huge withrawal. A nightmare!!!!!.
I won't. Just sometimes I feel like it. Today has been a better day for me. Little sore amd 2 naps later I feel okish lol. This group has helped me a lot. Thankyou
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm so mad he put me on this didnt explain the drug to mw or nothing. What a bloody nightmare. Now I feel stuck compleatly. Its good to no I'm not alone though ! I have good days and bad. More bad then good but I just kinda force myself.
I am so pleased that you are having a better day. I never understood what people meant by that until now, what a "Just having a bad day" meant and how.
Now I completely understand.
I am so pleased this group can offer some help. I am so happy I found the group also just to know that other people are going through similar issues aswell.
Have a good weekend.
My withdrawals gave me huge anxiety. But at the time I did not know about the withdrawals from bis. So my doctor put me on trazaoone and klonopin. If I had known this was withdrawals from the biso, I would never have gone on these other 2 nasy drugs. It took 10 months of weaning to get off then. I have been off the 2 for 4-5 months, and still having terrible withdrawals with many waves and windows.
Not the life I thought I would have
Hi I know how u feel
It feels like ur in a shell I have breathlessness lightheaded head feels weird brain fog and more and like u said anxiety
Not nice
Hi Gary,
It sure is not nice. I have had most symptoms of withdrawal from the trazodone and Klonopin. The worst thing I have gone through