call me brave or otherwise

Hi

Today I decided to eat an English muffin I toasted it very well with some black coffee. Waiting to see what happens to me. I have been feeling like a Rabbit and hence losing weight because I am afraid to eat. Although I eat proteins vegetables and some rice I still feel sometimes like I need some toast in the morning. I used to eat greek yogurt in the morning as it is in the fodmap but I was told to stay away from dairy altogether. Yogurt used to give me some energy. It is not like I feel hungry, I feel weak and tired. Maybe it's depression.

Any thoughts?

Vivian

Hi  Vivian, sorry to hear not feeling well. I suggest you seek advice from your gp. Good luck

Thank you.

Hard cheeses like vintage chedder are allowed and matured soft cheeses like brie and camembert are OK

It might replace the yoghurt.

Some cheeses are allowed to mature for a time and this process apparently breaks down the lactose top make it friendly.  I have only tried the three cheeses above and they were successful for me.   Of course I have to admit that I use the IBS diet to escape my restless legs syndrome.   My experience might not be of any application to you.

If your symptoms are absent while you stick to the diet then II would suggest you be brave and try just a small amount of one thing.  Record it in your food diary then see what happens in the next couple of days.

I think you might be at the stage where you should get some expert help from a dietician to help you reintroduce some more foods.

I used to get very tired and I found some extra iron helped.    On these sorts of diets its easy to believe you could be missing something useful.

If you muffin experiment goes badly how many days will you have to suffer before you can get back under control?

Good luck.

Thanks Graham for all your help.

Vivian

In the bad old days there was five ingredients in bread - flour, shortening (usually bitter or lard), water, yeast and sugar. Now there are upwards of ten ingredients in bread, including "flavour enhancers" and preservatives which make the bread last longer than a day  as it did in the old days.

I discovered that I can eat real bread but cannot eat modern bread.  Modern causes such bad cramping and indigestion.

I have been experimenting with food for thirty years to overcome my IBS. Periodically I will eat something I used to eat and have found that the manufacturers have changed the recipe.  In many cases they have added palm nut oil to the ingredients replacing lard or butter and in the case of chocolate, cacao butter.

I now read labels, and if there is palm nut oil, saccharin or something I can't pronounce I don't buy it.  

That, of course, takes me right back to natural whole foods, that do not contain any artificial sweeteners, such as Saccharin, Aspartame, Acesulfame potassium, Neotame, Sucralose and Advantame

What it comes down to is read your labels and know what you are putting in your body.

Initially I stopped all herbs and spices and have added them back slowly experimenting with whichever agrees with me.

A couple of points on what you said, Vivian, I suffer with iBS and find whatever I eat I still get symptoms so i do have SOME yoghurt, cheese, toast and coffee so I feel why deprive myself if it makes no difference to the symptoms, in any case I feel its not good to have NONE of the foodstuffs which in moderation are good for us and part of a staple diet, just my thoughts, Fiona

Hi otherwise and mostly brave,

if you need to lose a few lbs...not a big deal...you know "otherwise"...

a lot of excellent  advice being posted.

Have dozens of case history data of ibs patients who have resolved their digestive issues. A few things in common: "fermented foods and fermented dairy , 4 to 5 small meals vs 3,  some supplements, mild exercise and a diary (no fad diets some advice from nutritonists). Re bread/pastery...bad stuff as one posted here...if commercial?

local bakery is best.

make your own kefir/yogurt with quality organic fresh non pasteurized milk. We purchase ours from nearby dairy in  glass quart container.

Grew up on a farm not too far from BC. Dad "cooled" milk before putting in glass gallon containers....30 years with  regular buyers and their relatives or neighbors. Dad suggested for comparison to put a glass of store purchased milk and a glass of ours, and in a week or less...one will turn to poison while the other will be beneficial.

Well maybe not clinical depression but when one is always suffering....dance mood surely doesn't seem likely.

Ann

Thanks everybody. So far mh english muffin is behaving in my tummy. All good advice.

Vivian