Who are you talking about? If you mean me, say so
They do the rersearch and make them but it is the doctors who precribe them.
As I have said here before my GP says of a cardiologist at a local hospital that he would put statins in the water supply if he could.
Hi Jude
yes I was
Hi Derek
Reminds me of the late former GP, the senior partner in a local surgery who smoked himself to an early grave well before the age of 70 but provided his patients with an excellent service while in practice.
With him, as was the case with Atkins, it was do as i say, not as i do
Regards
But he doesn't have that power, does he? Fortunately, I might add ..... I'm sure the drug companies would put all sors of things in the water if they were allowed to.
Very different to making millions from books which promoted an extremely unhealthy diet which millions of gullible people believed to the detriment of their own health.
Your comment would be a valid analogy if the old GP you're talking about had advocated heavy smoking to his patients as a healthy practice!
Would not be allowed now but back in the 1960's we had a diminutive white haired Scottish doctor who was reputed to be 90. In those pre appointment days of packed standing room only waiting rooms he always called in mothers with children first and then old people. After that it was Whos's next.
He sat behind his desk puffing on a huge pipe. One day I asked him the secret of his longevity. After a couple more puffs he replied, moderation in all things and an excess of Whisky. I wondered if it was the excess of Whisky that was the reason for his even older wife driving him on his rounds.
I once had to call him out on a Saturday. Before going he picked up my paper open at the racing page. He quickly put a mark against three horses and said, Back them, they will make you feel better. I didn't and felt worse by evening after they had all won. They don't make them like Doctor Gibson now.
Have you seen the old pre and post war adverts for cigarettes fronted by a smoking doctor? Craven A are good for your throat was a British one. The American ones were more blatant. Strange when even during WWI soldiers referred to cigarettes as 'coffin nails'.
But surely smoking calms peoples nerves and keeps them in the main slim by reducing their appetite:-) The Cat Walk Models are all usually smokers.
How often do you see Kate Moss without a cigarette?
Are you seriously suggesting smoking has advantages????!!!! You shouldl take a look at the COPD forum, to which I belong, because I'm going to die a slow and horrible death because of smoking and so are millions of others worldwide. Do you work for the tobacco industry?
While you're at it, check out the working conditions of the child slave workers where most tobacco is grown, who are raped if they don't meet their quota's.
It's a total myth that it calms your nerves, in fact it's a stimulant and the calming effect is the alleviation of the withdrawal symptoms from not having had a fag for a while.
Oh yeah and those catwalk models all look so healthy, don't they, with their anorexic vacant faces and stick like bodies ..... Kate Moss is a role model???
Strange choice between being skinny and "calm" and dying of COPD, cardio vascular disease or all the cancers smoking causes.
I can't believe the moderators let your post appear on a health forum
I've read that up to the late 1930's some doctors used to recommend smoking to TB patients because tobacco being a cough suppressant, it stopped their coughing.
I'm also old enough to remember when smoking was allowed in hospital wards and doctors' waiting rooms had ashtrays - hard to believe now, isn't it? It wasn't even banned in supermarkets or other shops for a long time
I can only assume that my humour is lost on you!!! Did you not note my :-)
The services always kept the troops well supplied with cigarettes and the NAAFI sold them at less than retail prices. Queen Alexandra famously gave every soldier a box of cigarettes one Chrstmas during WWI.
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If you Google: "doctors in cigarette adverts" you get some great stuff. More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette. Was it Lucky Strikes are better for you as they are toasted.
Many of the episodes of Mad Men featured tobacco advertising in the 50' and 60's
From an old Lucky Strike advert. "To keep a slender figure no one can deny reach for a Lucky instead of a sweet"
Lucky Cigarette ad (source: SRITA)If the nearly ten billion dollars spent by the tobacco industry in 2008 to encourage Americans to smoke doesn’t shock you, perhaps the story the ads tell will. It is a story that has special relevance for young women and teenage girls and feminists of all ages. For nearly 100 years, cigarette companies have worked hard to attract female customers, and they have been effective. In 2008, 18.3 percent of women (that’s 21.1 million of them) smoked. Research by Stanford scholars Dr. Robert Jackler and Laurie Jackler presented at the Clayman Institute for Gender Research shows how tobacco companies have tailored their marketing campaigns to appeal to young women. Cigarette advertising has suggested that smoking will make women thinner, more self-confident and independent, and more fashionable, sophisticated, and cool. These tricks of the tobacco trade have remained surprisingly consistent despite changing beliefs about smoking and women’s rights.
How many like the Marlboro man in the adverts man died of lung cancer?
There was also the response to the Women's Liberation Movement in the 70's with the cigarette (can't remember which one it was) slogan of "You've come a long way baby".
Because of smoking restrictions and health education in western countries, the tobacco companies are targetting poorer countries and smoking rates and the inevitable illhealth rates are skyrocketing.
No I didn't see it and if I had, so what? Some of us have better things to do than keep up with the latest internet shorthand
Atkins was a strong believer in fibre in the diet, ring any bells?
Yes there are risks to Atkins diet, mainly to the pockets of big pharma.
And not forgetting that he Atkins diet was so unhealthy it has been found to reverse T2 diabetes, which is a major risk for CVD.
And did you not read the post detailing what Atkins himself died of? He was hardly original in recommending more fibre in the diet.
Who did the research about reversing diabetes????
The tobacco used in poorer countries is usually of inferior quality and very cheap.. I used to try many of them when travelling in my long distant smoking days.
Now the manufacturers are making electronic cigarettes.You've come a long waybaby was the Virginia Slims advert.
In the advert the image at the top is a photograph of a woman hanging laundry outside. The lower one is of an elegant woman smoking. The ad text reads: "Back then, every man gave his wife at least one day a week out of the house. You've come a long way, baby. Virginia Slims – Slimmer than the fat cigarettes men smoke."
My first two jobs were with tobacco companies. Back then we had cigarette shortages as the government imposed restrictions on imports from America that had to be paid for in Dollars. As a result a lot of tobacco came frome Greece, Turkey, Rhodesia and India. People queued up in the morning hoping to get the popular brands before they were sold out.
Hardly latest internet shorthand. Like David Cameron you probably don't know what LOL means. It came up during the Rebekah Brooks case.