Cipro and fluoroquinolone update for prosatitis patients.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/disabling-potentially-permanent-side-effects-lead-suspension-restrictions-quinolone-fluoroquinolone

Thank you Derek

I have never had a problem with ciprofloxacin. Just got a script this morning for 14 days I may have a UTI so to be safe. I will see him on the 7th to see what is going on. Had blood Wed either UTI or I passed a stone. We will see.

Even if I have never had a problem I know that there are men out there that due. When you are giving a pill by a doctor please check what the side effects are and be aware of them

Ken

Hey Derek

I laid down and was thinking about the article on the drugs. I did print it and put it in my file so I will have it just in case anyone what to know about it or did not get a chance to see it.

Men need to research and medication that you get from your doctor. That is a must for me. If my Urologist or any of my doctors prescribe me anything. The first thing I do before I pick it up is ask my doctor what it is for and then do my own research.

When you take anything you have to know what side effects to look for. There have been men on here and maybe else where that when something happen they don’t know why.

Men are given let’s say Flomax or Rapaflo they will cause retro ejaculation and are not told about it. When it happen they freak out because they think something is wrong. You have to do your research. Some medication carry 30 or more side effects.

All I ask is do the research. It will help you in the end. All of us on here try to give our brothers in pain our wisdom because we have been there and we don’t want you to have any more problems.

Good health to all…Ken

Hi Ken - I hope you are feeling better.
Regarding side effects I just want to mention that yesterday I cracked a tooth on a turkey bone and had to rush to my dentist who I have not seen for several years thankfully. He said he had to freeze my left side so he could do a new filing.He has a new system and wanted to know my BP. I asked why as that has never been an issue with freezing. he just said it was a precaution.
When he injected the freezing the right side of my face went numb and I could not open my right eye. My left eye was seeing double vision. So my wife rushed me to the ER nearby where after a few hours of observation I was ok. Really scary stuff!! be well my friend . Howard

Howard

Thank you Yes I am feeling better Woke up this morning my whole bed was wet. I think I sweat it out last night. Still not great but much better no fever Thank God

I’m going to have to check that out. I will be going after the first of the year have to have 5 teeth pull from the bottom and have new plates done.

Did he tell you anything else. Did you ever have the tooth fix

I just looked it up there are a few side effects like yours and also it can cause heart palpitations. This is good to know when you are going to a dentist

I hope you are doing better. Just try to relax and rest. Stay away from the Turkey

Ken

Hi Derek:

Thanks for posting this information. Cipro made my tinnitus somewhat worse. I recently had a UTI and the physician’s assistant wanted to prescribe Cipro. I now use the tinnitus as an excuse for why I don’t want to be on Cipro. When I bring this up, they immediately look for another antibiotic that might do the trick. I was prescribed amoxycillin instead under the theory that 80% of UTIs are caused by e Coli. Several days later the results of the culture showed that it was eColi and that amoxycillin should be effective. It worked but then the UTI came back and they were focused on Cipro again. We agreed that I would try cephalexin for 14 days and that cured it. My point is that a lot of doctor’s just want to immediately throw a fluoroquinolone at the problem when another milder antibiotic might work. When I bring up the tinnitus they immediately work a little hard to find something else without me having to get into an argument with them.

I’m not a doctor so am not offering advice to others. But my approach is to try another antibiotic (except sulfa drugs which I am allergic to) that has been shown to be effective against the bacterial strain if known. Then use Cipro as a last resort if necessary.

I realize that for prostatitis it can be difficult to know what the cause is and probably for that reason doctors just prescribe Cipro or equivalents. I’ve had suspected prostatitis in the past and amoxycillin did work (although it didn’t completely clear up this UTI that I had recently).

With this family of drugs Some people can get away with it. It seems to depend on your genetics and DNA. With others you get away with a few treatments before it catches up with you. When there are other drugs it’s not worth taking the gamble.

I have heard that American dentists will not treat patients whose BP is high. Here in the UK they are not up on that some are also not aware that patients with A.F. should have an adrenaline free injection.

I do want to add something. To be fair, the physician’s assistant did not know what the strain of bacteria was so probably felt safer trying to prescribe Cipro. It definitely is not a clear cut choice prior to knowing what the bacteria is that is causing the problem. But I would think that if the bacteria is known, one should try to use an antibiotic with fewer side effects first - but that is just my opinion.

Good Afternoon

It is very hard to know what to use. I have been on 3 different antibiotic for different infection.

Most of the time I get Ciprofloxacin and it does work for me and no side effects. I even took it for a month once 1000 mg 2 times a days. When I was checked the month later my prostate was smaller. Doctor could not say way because it’s not make to do that.

I have had tentititis but it was not cause by the meds. I got it from a inner ear infection. That was a he?? of a 4 weeks. Could not ear out of my left ear and could not raise my right arm it was in the shoulder

That is way we have to be aware of what the side effects of any drugs we are asked to put in our body’s

Take care all…Ken

Thanks Derek and Ken - no I did not have the tooth fixed as they thought I had had a stroke! I am fine today and will go back on Monday to fix the tooth. I will ask at that time what the freezing chemical was and it was very different from past freezings and was administered differently too. The equipment was very new and modern with the x-rays showing up right away in front of me. Amazing how a cystoscopy can be quick and easy but freezing a tooth can be life-threatening!

Yes that is not good.

Good luck buddy

Ken

Howard: When you say freezing do you mean just a regular novocaine or alternative anasthetic shot? I’ve never heard of actually using cold to try and numb the nerves so that a dentist can do a filling.

The EMA web site has several links to the problems caused by this family of drugs including a conference available on Youtube where victims of the drug and medical experts on “flouroquinolone toxicity syndrome” gave evidence.

I always truthfully tell people that I’d sooner have another GL/PVP than an extraction or a root canal.
I have a wisdom tooth that is niggling and the dentist looked at the X-Ray and said that will be a challenge as the root goes at a right angle into my jaw bone. He said that he might pass me on to a colleague at another practice.

When they say it will be challenging, that is bad news. I had that happen to me about 8 months ago, but assumed challenging meant that the dentist didn’t have the right equipment. The root canal with the endodontist was 2 hours of agony. At one point after about 90 minutes and during an episode of intense pain, I actually lifted my arms as if I was going to strangle her (I apologized later and she took no offence whatsoever). It was bad and she almost gave up which would have meant an extraction; but fortunately, I got through it. Since that episode, I now use a waterpik every night.

I hate that this site “moderates” posts. At least provide the poster with the opportunity to modify the post. Now I have to write a long post all over again, which I think I’ll pass on.

Hey Buddy

Yes that is a shame and it does happy

If you want to say something to someone that you thing may be moderated sent them a Private Message. It is much better and you can say what you want.

Have a great day…Ken

That’s just it, there was nothing that should have been moderated. I did use a word for a water irrigator for the teeth and maybe that was the problem.

Buddy

Yes that good be it.

But we live and learn

Ken