Let us know Tracy how you go on with the mods final. I can't believe there is someone who takes the same as me Barr the tramadol. You don't realise till you speak to other people . Good luck love.
Hi ,
I am afraid the Modnafil tablets didnt work for very long and I am still addicted I am not taking as many different drugs now but am still addicted to tramadol ,Lyrica and codiene now I take 500mg tramadol 200mg lyrica and and 4 or 5 codiene tablets like solpadol 30/500 all at the same time when I wake up in the morning then again at lunch time and again at dinner time so I failed miserably to get clean , I just tried recently to come off the lyrica so stopped taking them the withdrawals were terrible I lasted 2 and a half weeks and had to go back on them some times it makes you feel pretty trapped like it is stronger than you when you have to go running back to the doctors then stuffing handfuls of drugs in your mouth trying to get rid of the withdrawals and get back to normal ( well drug adict normal ) I am sure I will try again soon to get clean and maybe one day actually be free
I wish you well
good luck x
Hi Tracey
Have you ever gave the NA a go? Narcotics anonymous is amazing and it really does help all you need to joints the desire to quit.
Hope this helps.
I would agree I am an addict, a dhc addict and in more recent times heroin I was taking 30-40 maybe more per day for 6-7 years.
I did write a big reply however it don't seem to have sent if it did this is the short version lol.
Hi, I have been taking DHC for years, I usually take 6 30mg every morning, sometimes 8, I don't take anymore throughout the day, I know to most people this seems such a low dose, but I'm scared, I want to stop, but I don't know how to be normal again I need to wake up without taking them being the 1st thing on my mind!! In the beginning it was amazing, I was on the ball, doing things, looking after myself, now I just sit around, I keep the house tidy etc..I WANT TO STOP, I have a Granddaughter now & this should make me more determined, I know my withdrawel won't be anywhere near as bad as some on here but I'm scared, I know I'm gonna feel rough, Ideally I would like to sleep for a week & wake up not needing them, I also need to put a stone & half on...Please someone help me, I'm NOT telling anyone as no one knows but surely I can get off them quick?? I need help PLEASE!!
Pleasewill someone help me, I'm scared, I have 2 left for tomorrow & my prescription of 4 a Day isn't for another 6 days, I can't face the withdrawel!! I do intend to tell my Dr I'm having a problem & want him to drop my dose, I deally by then I would which to be feeling well enough to say STOP don't give me anymore!! I hope?? I can't afford to be ill, I have a Granddaughter to look after I know what's coming as Years ago I came of 80-100mgs of oxycontin, it was ahellish week, but people are saying Dihyrdocodeine is harder to come off?? Please please can someone talk to me Thank you x
Hey there... I'm on day 7 without DHC. This drug has ruined my life for over ten years now. Just wanted to say, you can do this! Google the Thomas recipe if you don't already know about it, it helps a lot. Let me know if you want any help... Not that I'm very far in but I know I'm done for good this time. You can do it, you just need a plan, trust me. I was taking about 40 a day at one point!
you can do it. Four pills is not a huge amount but you will feel cr@p for a bit. Immodium is an amazing tool for withdrawal. It's an opoid that apparently does not cross the blood brain barrier. You don't want to take huge amounts like some addicts do when they are avoiding withdrawals (trust me it works but could be dangerous) but taking the daily limit or a bit above for a few days and then cutting down makes a huge difference to withdrawal and not just for the runs. I took four first thing in the morning of day 1 and then two a few hours later and a couple before bed. What a difference to past attempts. Tomorrow will be my first day without BC I don't want to become dependent on loperamide, it happens and is just as bad as opiates to come of if on large amounts for long periods.
Wow, hey, I wall wasn't expecting any replies Thank you, thank you so much!!
I have been on them for years but last year, I again was on the oxy's, up to 150mg's every morning, I do think my saving grace is that I've only ever taken them in the morning, I found that's all I needed, seemed to last all day...My Daughter then asked me if I was back on tablets, I cried, I had waited so long for her to confront me again, I stopped but I was still having my prescription of Dihydro 56 30mg every 2 weeks plus a few strips off a friend once a Month, so she 'thought' I was clean...I do genuinely have a back broplem which is way I am prescribed them, but I DON'T WANT THEM IN MY LIFE ANYMORE!! I have a 17 Month old Granddaughter, why wasn't that enough, I split with my Fiance after 5 years 11 Months ago, I think maybe that's why?? I desperatlty need to get healthy as I'm having another Grandchild in November I HAVE to be sorted by then!!! My problem at the moment is D's, I've been taking 6-8 a day I'm out at the moment but only until 5pm ish, I am going to try soo hard to drop to 4 & please God will find the strength to speak to my Dr, the Dr who put me on them after my files say I had an addiction to them years ago!! In your experience, if I was to, say, take 4 4 4 3 3 3 2 2 2 1 1 1 & 1 everyday after would you say my withdrawel will still be bad?? I have to look after my Granddaughter!! I'm not concerned with the 'loo' side of this as luckily I'm rather empty at the moment lol & have med's to help! I just want to be able to cope, I WANT to do this as quick as possible!! I have mass protein drinks with many vitamins for the goodness my body will need, I will write more but I feel I've written too much already, sorry & thank you again so much x
You mentions Immodium (opoid?) will the generic Loperamide do the same thing, I would stick to the dose, don't need another dependcy lol..How do they work? What is BC? I am amazed at how well you have done, proud of you as you must be yourself xx
I googled the Thomas recipe, I don't know most of the ingrediants, but I am prescribed 5mg Diazapam twice daily
Hey again!
A fast taper will certainly soften the landing! I guess you need to work out what you plan to do when your script is due again. I say this BC there is no point starting this only to have them there as back up in a few days time. I honestly think you can do this for good if you are honest with yourself all the way. Dropping to 4 from a 6-8 a day problem should not be too bad at all. the worst of the physical withdrawals will be over after 4 days as you no doubt know so keep that in mind if things get a little rough. Tapers are good if you can stick to them, most of us can't. They also make for a more drawn out withdrawal... So many prefer to just jump but it's a personal thing. You have been taking pills for years so you are gonna feel withdrawal but you are lucky in that you are not on large amounts. Diazepam does help withdrawals but if you are already using it on a regular basis it might not make a huge difference to you. We also need to be careful of benzo's as you know. I've been through benzo's withdrawal and I'm telling you it makes an opiate withdrawal look like a walk in the park, that said it can be done. I'm happy to be a buddy and help you through this in any way I can... In honesty it will help me as I deal with the opiate malaise (the thing I find most difficult) part of my own withdrawal. Just again about loperamide, it helps withdrawal regardless of wether you have an empty stomach or not. So if you feel really bad at any point it's worth having some on hand! You can do this Sezyboo,mdont let the horrid pills take any more of your life, it's a slippery slope and you are not even at the bottom yet so get out now! Make a plan then stick to it, I'll be here by your side! Contact your doc as soon as you can and let him know the deal, it will be a relief to you.
Thank you It's just such a relief to have someone to talk to!! I am hoping to have the courage to ask my Dr to drop my prescription a lot, I feel it's my time to finally say Goodbye to the these stupid little white pills!!
I don't understand how Loperamide helps? Please could you explain? I have been prescribed extra diazapam so hopefully that will help..After twice coming off Oxycontin I feel I should smash this..
I am so grateful to you I look forward to helping each other through this x
It's great that you are in good spirits! Smash this you will! Re the loperamide, I've not got a scientific brain but know it's an opoid that binds to the receptors in the gut. It apparently does not cross the blood brain barrier but yet many opiate addicts are able to stop or greatly reduce withdrawal symtoms when large amounts are taken. I would not at all suggest using large amounts though. I know there has been so research regarding this and in animal testing it was more or less proven to work but as I understand it, human tests have not yet been carried out. It has has made a huge difference to this attempt, though I still felt under the weather. I also took buscopan and so far I have managed to get away with only very minor stomach cramps as well as 0 bathroom issues. Today will be my first day without loperamide BC as I said before, I don't want to become dependent on it.
Personally, unless you are doing a fast taper, I would not up the benzo's. Dependence happens so quickly. If you decide to get your head down and get the withdrawal out the way quickly then fine, a few more here or there would be fine. Otherwise, I think it's risky as tolerance builds quickly! Hope you don't think I'm being a know it all... Just trying to be honest and help!
hi there, iv followed this discussion for a while and thought id join in... i came off dhc last year...... i have chronic back pain so i have to admit i still take them but only for the pain and normally about 2 per day (1 in the morning and 1 late afternoon. i will paste in my experience of WD in the hope that you find it helpfull.
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Withdrawing from dihydrocodiene-my experience
hi there, I did post on an old thread but decided to start a new one. hopefully someone out there will either benefit or reply as I am currently on day 5 and its not easy. Iv been on dihydrocodiene 30mg for 4 years following post pregnancy back pain. as with many of you my gp continues to prescribe on rpt without calling me in. I have taken anything from 4 per day to 20 odd per day over the last 4 years. last dose early hours of sunday morning.
Day 1-woke up following fairly heavy night of partying. horrible feeling that none left but searched anyway. every bag, drawer, place I would have some. realised for sure none left.....not the first time this has happened and id requested rpt last Friday, knew they would not be available until Tuesday!! decided to see how things went. took 2 8/500 cocodomol- felt like hell from lunchtime onwards (prob hungover also tho I thought)
rest of the day major struggle, nothing done in the house. no energy, no motivation, upset stomach, fever, shivering, headache- classic symptoms-been there before. decided at some point in the afternoon I was coming off the evil things once and for all.
5pm major bowel problems, off to the toilet numerous times, took another 2 cocodomol. terrible nights sleep up and down to the toilet umpteen times.
day 2- Monday-cancelled all previously booked plans. flu symptoms continue. lack of energy continues, shivering under blanket with hot water bottle, no chores done. took 4 immodium, multi vit, 2 co-codomol, 1 banana for potassium. only thing eaten. (im not going into my family commitments as wish to remain as anon as poss. Very tearfull
1900- hardly able to keep eyes open, took 2 cocodomol managed over that wave. did a LOT of online reading of ppls experience-this has helped me greatly. 2100- called narcotics anon helpline- very nice, helpful chap gave me advice and reassurance. 2300 went to bed - better sleep but awoke screaming with nightmare and had several vivid dreams, slept until 0900, off and on, stomach still bad further immodium taken throughout last 24 hours.
day 3- Tuesday- got some help at home today so feel less anxious. still no energy, yawning constantly, hot water bottle, blanket, 1 cocodomol, vitamins, 2 immodium taken, 1 slice of toast eaten. stomach still all over the place. had commitment could not get out of in afternoon- struggle but coped. only out x2 since start and not thro choice. knew pills would be ready today but NO desire to pick them up. 1400- unable to keep eyes open, back to bed out like light until 1730.... woke up felt bit better-less shivery still very low in energy. sat around watching tc all evening back to bed early doors. only x 2 cocodomol 8/500 taken all day (feeling proud). stomach still dodgy but better bit more food eaten. not much. slept fitfully, dreams better but still troubled. slept until 0930.
Day 4- woke 0930- def bit more energy. No cocodomol taken today, no desire to pick up script. 2 slices of toast and 1 yogurt eaten (its 1300). 1 immodium taken this morning- bowels ok just now, less shivery, bit more energy, nowhere near healed but feel getting there. 1700- tireness at a peak today but for sure more able to cope. bought some pro plus and lucozade which did help. no cocodomol taken today, still no desire to pick up script. hot water bottle best friend . had some pasta, enjoyed it bowels ok. hot bath. bed 2300 slept fitfully again !!!
as from sunday morning my WD in numbers-
immodium taken - 10
multi vits - 4
cocodomol 14
hot water bottles - lost count
yawning - into the 100s
naps- 3
good nights sleep - 0
reduced to tears - 1 but lasted for hours
phone call to narcotics anon - 1
time spent online reading on forums etc- lost count, most beneficial thing iv done
posts myself - 2
times out the house - 2
hours spent in pjs - 100s
Day 5- woke 0630 as things to do this morning- very tired but no more than would be expected- legs sore and jumpy today, bearable. from what iv read the worst of the symptoms should be getting better. def feel less tired. managed bacon roll . very nice. home alone most of the day so going between enjoying the rest and feeling lonely. on the whole feeling positive and for sure no plans to pick up script!!! no immodium taken as yet today. less cold still sore, on the whole feel better. currently 1030 am.
I will never take these pills again!!!! anyone out there struggling just now? x
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quick update on the continued battle.. not sure if anyones interested but it might help me to look back on it. today has been hard. still struggling with food/tiredness. def getting better tho. just as well as back to work tmro...today went past the chemist where the pills were waiting. didn't get them. no cocodomol taken in 4 days. I really think these drugs should be better regulated. maybe when im feeling stronger I will pursue that thought further. found myself thinking less about it all today. still a long way to go though.
if anyone feels like joining in I would be most welcoming-its not easy
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just a quick update, 2 weeks today I started this. PAWS has been an issue. mostly because I miss the feeling and buzz but also I still feel less energy at times. on the whole though I feel good and very proud that iv lasted this long. no pills in the house, my husband handed them back to the pharmacist and said I didn't want them when he picked up the rest of my script. I notice lots of ppl have read my post so hopefully someone will benefit. im still taking immodium occasionally but NO codeine at all. I was worried about pain control with my back but its been surprisingly manageable with paracetamol and hot water bottle. hugs to anyone struggling xx
Thank you for your wonderful post, I will reply in more depth when I'm not babysitting a 17 monthb old lol....I haven't had any today, but do have some coming in a few hours! As said earlier I take 6-8 in the morning, no more through the day & yet not having any today, I feel awful, why? DOESN'T WITHDRAWEL KICK IN DAY 2? Scuse the caps???? You must be so so proud of yourself, a hellish way to do it!! I HAVE to babysit my Granddaughter quite often so sadly have to taper longer, although I wish I could do what you did!! I'm gonna start at 4 & ask my 21 yr old Son to give me daily! I have Dr's next Wednesday, truth time, I want to be me again, I just want to be ME :'(
I tool 3 20mg lopes after you mentioned them, I have also had a couple of diaz today, just waiting until 5 for my Dhc, I will only take 4, as I mentioned to someone else, I am giving thme to my 21yr old Son to give me daily & reduce!! I am so scared, I remember 2010 was a great year, stopped oxy's cold turkey on my birthday, Jan 2010, until June when I had to put my baby to sleep, no excuse, but losing my dog was so painful, I guess I've been on them since, apart from a 2014/15 it was oxy's again, got off them with Dhc... I feel I'm babbling & answering so many kind people I'm getting confused what I'm saying to who? So apologies to all...Thank you
i agree with Nick about the benzos. there just as addictive... diazapam especially. chlordiazapoxide less so at a low dose. i didnt go down that route as i just wanted it to be over.... your bound to feel rubbish today if youv not had any. thats a whacking dose to take 8 at once. like i said in my diary the things i found most helpfull were reading other ppls experiences. theres loads of info and discussions online. hot water bottle is essential for the pains and keeping warm. your doing well, hugs xx
Thanks, I'm not going to go crazy with the Ben's! I just want it over with now, I feel awful but I shouldn't feel THIS bad?? I may take 6=8 every morning, but lately a few days I've had 2 or 3, is this really gonna take a long time