Do I deserve the bad things that happen to me?

Well do I? Why does one person get the heavy end of the log? Why does another get good things and yet is cruel and bitter? Do our lives mean anything? Does the universe mean anything? Is there really anything to mean anything? Are we not here at all, just nothing at all dreaming a dream within a dream about nothing at all. Should I have gone to bed before I started dreaming about dreams within a dream?

are we but a dream?

That is really deep. Has something bad happened to make you think those things? 

Sorry I meant something big something in particular!

Perhaps we are just what something else is dreaming and perhaps this being has multple dreams, some good, some bad.

Perhaps I too should go to bed.

 

Are you drunk or a n other! I am and v on my own wondering similar to you but not as confusing! My partner working all night and I'm bored but think you might be more bored? 

That is a good question marey. I think a great deal hangs on the answer. How do you answer your question?

Yes, Shellesmalley, about 40 years ago. How about you, has something big happened to you?

I'm sorry to hear that. It's an awful fact of life that sometimes bad /awful things happen to good people. As for your question Yes I suppose it has. I have often thought what's the point and twice acted in it . I'm a mum of two which will probably shock and anger some people who read this but believe me when I say those girls are the only reason I'm still here plus a bit of luck . Do you have children? Or nieces / nephews? 

I once read a science fiction novel about life in our world its people and their problems.

It ended that we were not here at all. We were all in a program written and altered by scientists on another planet. Sorry cannot remember its name it was a very long time ago.

So what do you truly believe? GeorgeGG clearly has religion, personally I am all for the Big Bang/evolution maybe because it's more real/sane/normal/proven (I don't know the word I'm looking for - probably easy?) to accept we evolved rather than a man in the sky made two people and seven days immaculate conception and so on. Not rubbishing it at all in anyway, my seven yr old is a massive believer and I fully encourage her (bought her a lovely children's bible that I often read to her)as I believe it should be a choice. What would you close? Science, region or conspiracy?

The religious conspiracy or the scientific one???

I have never had any religious beliefs. If God created the world why did it take millions of years for anyone to realise it? What is the point of the rest of the universe if we are alone or cannot contact it.

Were his early men and animals just experiments that did not work and he had to improve on. If we are created in his image why are we so different and why is man allowed to interpret his laws in such extreme ways that have had his believers warring over the centuries. Why when his believers found other continents did they enslave or wipe out its inhabitants. Are our war cemeteries and hospitals monuments to his glory and mercy?   

Evolution and nature are truly wonderful and modern man is trying to destroy it..  

 

Hi Steve, my problem with the dream idea, and multi-millions think that way, is that pain is SO sore and distress is so very upsetting. When I have an upsetting or 'dangerous' dream I just wake up in a hurry. But I can't just wake up from pain in a hurry, wish I could.

Yes Shellesmalley, I have three boys, lost our only girl at birth and still mourne her, and three granddaughters and three grandsons, nieces and nephews too. They are all hugely important to my wife and I. I rejoice that when you acted on it it didn't come off and here you are supporting us, your family in adversity, as well as supporting your family by nature. Politiians may see each of us as individual tax sources. I see families. Families give the greatest security and cohesion in adversity, the greatest joy and the greatest sorrow. Time and again we see that blood is thicker than water.

hmmmm

so sorry for your pain...there are techniques to disassociate from pain....keep searching xxxxxx

bad dreams? go back into them...and turn them around...dream control...you can do it !!!!!!

but also appropriately control pain.... keep on top of it so you minimise your dosage

Deserve is not the right verb unless what happens to you is a direct result of what you have, or have not, done. When bad things happen there is often a discernible cause. Sometimes that cause is hard to isolate; at others it a mixture of unrelated matters that may come from that time or a previous time. Rarely can it be correctly defined as an accident.

What lies behind your OP is curiosity; that is a natural preponderance for all of us with a 'normal' brain. Thousands of years ago man had little knowledge but a lot of curiosity. It was that curiosity that brought him out of caves looking for something better. There was so much curiosity that could not be satisfied - just looking at the sky every day and night must have presented man with enormous additional curiosity. Then the weather. Today we know a lot about our weather but still not enough and we yearn for more information about it to satisfy our needs, driven by that curiosity.

So don't worry about curiosity; try to learn more to satisfy it.

Thanks derek, that is a really intreging idea. What if it were true. We would be worse off than bees in a hive. That is a nightmare I would certainly wake up from in a hurry.

Another interesting thrust is that authors often have a point or two they want to get over - something that worries them. Could you relate this, for example to politics in the West, or perhaps some other area?

Or is there a God who manipulates us for his amusement. The ancient Greeks had this idea of their Pantheon of Gods making sport of the heroes of that time.

MMM thanks. A lot to think about in your observation.

Are we not all ants or bees working for a State that takes much of our earnings for the drones?

The drone bee. How do I best explain the brief life of the honey bee male?

I suppose it depends on your perspective on life. On the one hand, they:

Spend their time drinking nectar, mating (in the air at that!), and lazing around on flowers.

They do little around the home (a hive or, if a feral bee – perhaps a hollow tree or cavity in an old building somewhere).

They help themselves to nectar stores, yet they don’t do much to help out with the kids (okay, okay, I’m humanising them a bit – the brood).

Heck, they don’t even go out and get food for the family!

 

Thank you Marey