Don't want to be me!

Lying in my bed, it's my safe haven

But still so scared

I'm not normal you see? I'm not like you, I am just like me!

My thoughts just aren't the same as yours

I have my very own train of thought!

It varies so much that I'm so confused

I wish I wasn't me, I wish I was you!

Sometimes I think...yes! I'm actually doing okay..then something happens to take it all away!

I want so much to be a normal person

But the more I seem to try the more my thoughts worsen

I just can't escape these poisonous thoughts, I guess from a young age it's what I was taught.

I hate thinking so deeply I hate the way that I think, I want it to stop to not be on the brink...of craziness! Now I hate that word but how else I can describe it? I just have no words!

I'm not a normal person, I know that it's true I just hope and pray that one day...

I'll be like you!

Hi don don

I like your writings they carry with the most so much meaning

You know most of what we see with our eyes is an illusion right the happy family in the photos etc it's a pause in time a breif moment captured by an artist of sorts reality is there's no body better than you Hun

When you're unhappy the your mind tells you there are better out there however as I always say in search of greener pastures we often forget to stop and take in the beauty that already surrounds us we all do it its not abnormal to want a better life or to want to feel happier

You don't need to be anybody but itself you are very specail and worthy of all you dream of

Thinking of you

Mike

Beautiful words from someone like you. Your words have meaning with me and they ring true.

We may be depressed or maybe just sad.

When we decide that things are better my family and I will be glad.

Our thoughts are sometimes racing. We don't know how to describe it. We force ourselves up and dont lie in our bed. We convince ourselves that this is just in our head.

What makes you think you're any different than the rest of us?

Individuality Chris is the easiest way to answer that!

I suppose it depends on the time on the question whether it can be mis interpreted text and words are funny like that you can't tell the tone of which a question is asked

Tone not time sorry

you seem to think you're so different than everyone else but you aren't. Everyone goes through the same things you are, it's how we choose to deal with these issues that make us different.

It's just a poem. The "you" isn't referring to anybody in particular, I guess it's just fictional. I certainly wasn't implying that I was better than anyone else, suffering more than anyone else.

But yes each person is different therefore I am different to everybody else and them to me. We're all individuals, no two people are the same.

Hi Chris

That's boggled my mind if I'm honest, I'd like you to explain that statement a little more if you will please.

Yes I do think I'm different to everyone else in regards to upbringing culture values etc we can't all have the same stance point on things,

As emotion can not be quantified I can't say if you, I , or anyone else suffer more or less than anyone else regarding an issue we may share all the site allows us to do is to let people know how we handled something and what worked for us, it's what the site is there for, of course I'm different to you and you to every one else because no one has lived the lives we live but us,

I don't think I've had it worse or better than anyone else at all what I do do is say I felt like this about something and it was hard I struggled has anyone got any thing that has felt like this and what helped them or on the flip side I felt like this and this really helped me maybe it'll help them too,

when things are hard is easy to take offence at something maybe a method a person has tried and worked for them someone else tried and I didn't work for them that I imagine may sound very patronising to the person that's struggling again we are all different,

I don't think there's a right and wrong answer to things I think the site allows people to explore options that has worked for others maybe find something that they haven't tried before people on the site share the stories in order to help other chris that maybe struggling not to upset or belittle anyone

I do apologise if I have offended you it seems never an intention to upset anyone if you are struggling with an issues of your own and can't find a solution maybe you could set up your own discussion and someone could help you discover an option you haven't tried yet or maybe just five tou peice of mind that your not alone in the suffering of such an issue

Mike

There is true depression, and then there are those who complain about their life not working out the way they want and are depressed about it. Two totally different things. All the people crying wolf about their "depression " really minimizes the outlook on those who legitimately suffer from clinical depression. Whining and complaining because something didn't go your way is not depression. Get off your ass and fix it, work hard and quit complaining. People with true depression can't do that. Most of the cases of "depression I am hearing about here are from very young people who haven't even begun to experience the potential shXX storm life can bring their way. They just don't like the fact that they have become fat and someone dared call them fat, or they are lazy with no motivation and they can't get a good job at be in a healthy relationship. Those are all choices and feeling "depressed" because of the consequences of those choices is not depression. Maybe there should be a separate forum for " clinical depression " and " unhappy with my life".

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I remember you you now! Two daughters brought them up alone right?

You still finding it hard to accept things wife cheated left etc living at home or back with parents or friends

Your really down on yourself chris you I think if I remember correctly you were a military man or high in the police force something like that all went to shXXX right?

We are different chris I have no idea how that feels how can I it's never happened to me what I do know is your as lost as everyone else so in that respect your the same

But for some one to appreciate your pain they really have to have experienced it

Mike

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So tell me chris which category do we fall into I think your a strong person chris you had tough times people are more sensitive than others doesn't make them bad people or time wasters ya know

What people feel accept can deal with is purely based on what they as individuals see as important we can't dictate to people how they should feel hitler was a dictator empathy is not a skill you can learn chris if someone is down regardless to the reason it hits home to that person ya know as a support network we should help those people what's important to one person may seem trival to others

That's why we are different

Major or clinical depression is a serious but treatable illness. Depending on the severity of symptoms, your primary care doctor or a psychiatrist may recommend treatment with an antidepressant medication. He or she may also suggest psychotherapy, or talk therapy, in which you address your emotional state.

This it completely different than being self diagnosed as "depressed" when life doesn't go your way. Even with everything I have gone through, I was only depressed, I wasn't suffering from depression. There is a big difference.

Chris your an intelligent man I'm sure you realise that depression like most problems is progressive it starts very small maybe one factor as you said fails a relationship for instance

We suck it up as you suggest move on don't talk about it the feeling sits heavy with us something else fails again we ignore it soon enough we have a whole load of depressive thoughts ya know it's not for everyone but personally I'd like every young person that had a problem to address it that way we would eradicate clinical depression it always starts small it's not dealing with issues when they are small that make them huge we allow them to grow

You are having a hard time understanding. True depression is not caused by life situations anymore than being bipolar or manic depressive is. These can be triggered by incidents but are genetic disorders. To label everyone who experiences depression as having the disorder of clinical depression is minimizing the public outlook of those who are legitimately suffering from depression and will actually hinder the care that is given to them. Just like those who aren't in chronic pain going to the doctor for pain meds or this without calic disease jumping on the gluten intolerant band wagon.

You are confusing "depressive reaction " with depression.

Depressive reaction. A less-severe and often temporary depression that arises from a specific life situation. In modern diagnostic language, a depressive reaction to a specific life stress is technically called a "stress response syndrome" (formerly known as an "adjustment disorder with depressed mood&quot.

"clinical depression is a tricky beast. Anyone can have a bad week and feel bummed out for a bit, but major depression is a chronic psychological illness that involves debilitating symptoms. ... That's not to say that some people aren't cured of depression; they are. But many are not."

Haha no sir I'm having trouble understanding your perception of depression

Your now suggest it's understanding is due to intellect lol

You first commented that on this post to don don regarding a poem lol but you know nothing about don don what's you did was make an assumption she isn't clinically depressed based on what's I'm not sure but if your theory was to be right surely before you comment something like that you'd have to know everything about don don

Your a military man right you realise that assumption I say the mother of all Fxxkups

So what your saying I say that depression does not progress to clinical that's what I'm having trouble with it's not really not understanding depression it's understanding how such an educated man such a son your self can beleive what he's writing lol

I am getting all my information from the psychological professionals. If you disagree with what I am writing then you are disagreeing with them. These are not my opinions. According to the experts, who know more than you and I, depressive reaction, which most people mistake for depression, does not lead to clinical depression. That is not my opinion. Depressive reaction is no different than something making you happy or sad. It is a temporary response to an incident or situation and does not lead to the deabilitating disorder of true clinical depression.

Your looking at it like a hardware soft ware approach but we are not computer nor machines your saying it's genetic not influenced that's not True all different factors contribute to depression I no trust sure it says as cut and dry as you claim it to be at all

But then I guess it's an opinion so to be clear you want rob be on the wingding about you life category yes? So what you on the site at all for chris ? If you beleive what your saying I mean why have you posted your story did you have a moment of weakness of something you know denial often rears its head rob people that are strong willed