Face to face assessment for Attendance Allowance!!!

You are all probably aware of the many difficulties I have had with the DWP over the past 20 odd years.

As a final throw of the dice I applied for Attendance Allowance about 2 weeks ago and received a letter over the weekend that an assessor (doctor!!) is coming to our home to investigate and determine if I have enough needs of the right type and duration to qualify.

From reading up about these home assessments, more people don't have them than do - so that makes me feel extremely special!!. So they must think that I am in with a chance otherwise they would give a flat - no award decision.

Two days to go and I'm champing at the bit so to speak - just waiting for them to arrive all psyched up and ready to do battle for the last time.

Will keep you all informed

Good for you Les for persevering I know personally how completely wearing down this is. Best of luck I beat them in the end, twice and got three letters of apology for what they put me through all due to their unbelievable succession of mistakes which had a domino affect.

Thanks. Given what has happened to me in the past, it took a great deal of effort to complete the form against a background of historical 'mental abuse' handed out by the assessors and the DWP.

This is a once only attempt to set the record straight that the system does not always work for those that are clearly entitled.

The DWP have a once only opportunity to agree that based on what I am, who I am and how my life is so messed  up healthwise as well as the legislation, I am entitled to financial help from the State despite the nit picking rules that are there to deny an award at any point in the process.

I have completed the application form honestly identifying the areas where help is needed and other areas where I have found ways of coping in attempting to live my life in as normal a way as possible.

We will see tomorrow if the assessor is good enough through questioning to see the real me that is hidden behind the facade that I put up every day for my public life. 

Good luck Les!

Les if only half the difficulties you have are taken into consideration you would walk high rate AA.

Hang on in there Les, hopefully things will work out for you at last.

Sending Positive Vibes. x

Thanks everyone for the support.

I will hopefully be able to report back after the assessment to tell how it went.

 

Just found these figures for AA aplications in 2011/12:

AA New claim decisions    310,900

AA New claim awards successful    249,300

AA Reconsideration decisions    17,900

AA Reconsideration awards successful    9,000

AA Appeal decisions to tribunal    3,500

AA Appeal successful    900

Effectively of the decisions made (310,900), up to 259,200 were successful. This is up to 84% success rate.

 I never realised that it was that high.

 

UPDATE

Well it has been nearly 48 hours since I had the face to face assessment on Thursday, time that I needed to calm down and think rationally about how it went.

1.30am knock at the front door. (30 minutes late!)

Struggled to the door, opened it and had an ID card thrust in my face. (OK where are the rest of the boys in blue?!!)

Two guys, one short and I mean short, with a ruddy face with sweat running off his brow - he introduced himself as a ‘doctor’ The second was said by the first to be a ‘trainee’. Told them to go through and in passing me in the hallway the ‘doctor’ definitely needed some help with his body hygiene!

Seated them opposite me at the dining table (not having them making themself too comfortable in the lounge). 

​The short guy asked for my ID (ridiculous but hey) 

(Thought to myself good cop bad cop?)

Anyhow went through the prelims – social and work? history, medication and living arrangements, aids used, where my wife was etc.  So far so good.

Moved onto what I could do – getting around the house, cooking, washing myself, going outdoors, sleeping arrangements etc. Both of them asking me questions, The ‘trainee’ wanting clarification and further explanations to the answers given to the ‘doctor’.

Now we were about an hour into the ‘discussion’.

The ‘doctor’ asked if I would show him the bathroom?? (first time that I had been propositioned by a guy!!!) I told him no, if he was that desperate he would find a toilet in the cloakroom by the front door – off he went.

Awkward silence for the next few minutes that I had no intention in filling.

He came back, sat down and asked about hobbies. Asked me how I coped being a Town Councillor and a Director of a Community & Entertainment Centre. (now I know that I had not included that info on the claim form as it had nothing to do with the difficulties that I face on a day to day basis) . I said that you appear to have Googled my name then?  Smile.

I explained fully that it is all local voluntary work and as such it fits in with the disabilities and difficulties that I endure daily.

 Did I drive? Yes, sometimes.

The young trainee got up to look at the car on the drive through the French doors. ‘Nice car’ he said. ‘I would love one like that’.

Now I could feel anger and annoyance rising – who the h*** do these two think they are?  

After about another ten minutes (3.10pm) the younger one stood up and said that they have now concluded the assessment and the DWP will be in touch. The ‘doctor’ stood and both walked to the front door which I opened and swiftly shut afterwards.

The whole assessment felt as though they were trying to catch me out?? I stayed cool, calm, and collected. The nearest thing that I could compare the whole experience to was a low key ‘investigation’ with the sole intention to collect evidence?? Just the way that the ‘trainee’ came over as not being a trainee but more a person of equal standing to the ‘doctor’.

Maybe I have read too many crime and thriller books!!

Still we will see what happens next, but to be honest I think I know what the answer will be. There was no caring attitude and with some of the questions asked they had clearly carried out some prelim work beforehand. It was very business like. They younger of the two (trainee) was certainly well versed in his ability in using open questioning.

I could say what I really though of the pair but it wouldn't get past the mods!! 

The bit about them knowing your background as a town councillor is a bit spooky.

Fingers crossed

It only takes a few seconds to find out. Google your name and it will display full details of all public appointments as well as all directorships past and present..

All of my history, current and past, covers the first page in full - 10 entries.

 

UPDATE::

Just received the post this morning and a government envelope was included.

Made a coffee then opened it - as I thought - refusal.  

It basically says that I don't have problems day or night.

That's it. No more - tried my best but it wasn't good enough it seems. 

I'm not going to appeal - just couldn't face the prospect of that.

So given what they have decided I suppose the time has come to tell my GP and consultants that I no longer need their help and input as I am cured and that everything is in my head.

I am gobsmacked Les.  Someone with half of your problems should have been awarded, this really does seem as if it's  personal.

Should is the operative word!

I don't know if it is personal or not - but apart from the aggravation I have already mentioned re DLA.ESA & IIDB over the past 21 years, the problems I have had with the DWP/DHSS go back even further to the mid 80's. At that time they all bar accused me of benefit fraud and after over 3 years of investigation could find nothing untoward despite them (DHSS) getting the police involved to carry out an early morning search of our home, office and cars.

Getting no apology from them for their 'fishing expedition' I started up a complaint that went to the very top of the department as well as questioning the police over the legality of the search warrant.

So yes their is bad blood with the DWP/DHSS going back just over 30 years. 

Omg this sounds like an interrogation not a medical assessment..and if your entitled to it why not fight ?

Goodness me that's horrendous, I bet you could write a book.

Funnily enough it wasn't an interrogation as such, more a question of 'having to go through the motions'.

Fight it? You have to be joking. Given how the DWP have treated me over the past 20 years with re-assessment and re-assessment every 18/24 months  (for DLA mainly when all of the awards were for life/indefinite) I doubt that they would be willing to look seriously at any MR application. 

Going to a Tribunal would be the next option (after an MR). My one and only time that I have had to suffer that was a couple of years ago over a Council Tax benefit claim. The case was listed for a full half day, the council had their own legal team there and there was me!

I spent hundreds of hours researching the law to try to level the playing field. I had no professional back up, no one to advise me or even speak on my behalf. The hearing went on for 4 solid hours - arguments over various regulations and how they should be applied. Looking at earlier case law etc etc. Even the judge/chair had to call on legal reference books to understand what was happening!

At the end I walked out after telling the judge that I felt way out of my league and comfort zone. I decided there and then that if that was an example of what it takes for a claimant to seek justice then it was the last time I would step into a Tribunal hearing.

True to my word I have refused to appeal against anything and everything since.

Ironically I received a notice from the court a few days later that told me that I had won!!! - common sense showed it to be the case. 

Bad luck old pal. I was sure you would get AA, baffled.

Les I know what you mean I had to fight years ago for my wife but won and she wasn't in the court she was in hospital having brain surgery ..but if you have the knowledge and you know your rights then surely you should fight not only for yourself but to help others in the same situation..I know your Ill but if you have the energy I'm sure many would appreciate you fightijng with them in these situations. ??

I definitely could. But I would have to not include the happenings of the mid 80's only because the alledged case against me was conspiracy and that some now senior professionals were also involved. The naming of names would probably get me into trouble as it was suggested by the DHSS at the time that I was advising and helping these people along with helping them to run a business for someone who was in jail (Ford open prison)  and attempting to smuggle documents in and out of Sutton open prison) involving his wife.

None of this was true and therefore could not be proven.