Finalmente derrotei o Threadworm, aqui está como eu fiz.

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I was just going to add that if the normal over-the-counter medication has not worked for you, go to your doctor and ask for a prescription for Albendazole. Bear in mind your doctor may not know much about threadworms (mine did not). I am taking 2 Albendazole tablets per day for a month. Then I have to have a 14 days off, and take a course for another month. You can repeat up to 3 times.

You have to be very specific and tell your doctor that repeated courses of over-the-counter medication has not worked, and it is affecting your life.

My tablets are Albendazole 400mg. Two tablets per day is for a person around 60kgs.

Don't let this go on if you have had trouble treating them. I let it go for 2 years, and it nearly cost me my sanity.

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I took 6 Mebendazole, 2 a week,, after all tablets went are started eating pumpkin seed on a daily basis, that was 2 months a go, I still eat pumpkin seeds on a daily basis as they are good for your health, prevent parasites and sainsbury ones taste really nice, so a good all rounder smile

I do still get the odd itching but that could be due to beer or foods like currys etc.. or maybe down there ia scared coz of havin threadworms along time, I dunno but what I do know is, the itching isn't that bad and is gettin better and I haven't found a single threadworm.

If they are still in me then good luck to them, aslong as I dont know there there and they don't annoy me, I can live a normal life.

ps. My kids and girlfriend have never had symptoms so with a bit of luck im the only one who have had them or still have them.

Ill let everyone know how I get on in a few months, if all fails ill still eat the seeds but also try other solutions people have mentioned above.

good luck to you all, do not let these rule ur life smile

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I am have had an on going battle with my 10 year old daughter and threadworms. The following information may be of help to you.

When she was about 6 years old, she got a bad infestation and I gave her mebendazole, two weeks apart which seemed to solve the problem. Around about that time I decided to put the whole family on a parasite cleanse as a precaution (black walnut tincture etc.) I did this every 6 months for four years. We have never had an adverse reaction from this treatment.

Last year however, I did not have time to do the parasite cleanse as we were travelling abroad a lot with my husbands work. Then in December last year 2012 my daughter came to me in tears saying she had the most horrible wriggling sensation in her bottom. I checked her out and sure enough they were back. This time they were so bad (hundreds coming out at a time) that I contacted my GP. He advised, mebendazole and pripsen at the same time over a 2 week period.

We started the medication and at the same time my entire house then got cleaned, the usual threadworm routine. I started with my daughters bedroom, removed and washed all cuddly toys from the bed area and damp dusted every surface, hot washed bedding/towels, carpets vacuumed. As a precaution I also cleaned all door handles, toilets and outside of toilet bowl, just in case any eggs could have clung to it. This took me an entire day.

She took the medicine and it did greatly reduced the wriggling sensation. But we could not get shot of them entirely. I put her back onto the parasite programme (black walnut tincture etc.) but although it reduced it further, again it did not eliminate them entirely. I knew that the infestation had most likely built up over the years and due to massive numbers was not going to be easy to shift.

I did not want to keep giving her the over counter medications as they were not working and I am not keen on loading up a child's body with chemicals, so here's what I did and this finally got rid of them. I worked out that whenever she came in from school she was always starving hungry so this would be a good time to give her medication. There is no proof but I am convinced that some medication works better on an empty stomach, especially where parasites are concerned.

So I gave her 1 x teaspoon of extra strength organic black walnut tincture in 100 ml cold water at 4pm each day. I did this for 7 days in a row. (After 4 days she said the wriggling sensation had completely gone but I felt it best to continue for 7 days.) Then I stopped the tincture and gave her 9 clove capsules a day, 3 before each meal. I did this for 7 days. (This kills all the left over eggs). Also during this week, I bought a fresh pineapple and pumpkin seeds. She ate two portions of both of these a day and again we tried to do it on an empty stomach. I supervised bottom washing every morning and evening for two weeks to remove any eggs around that area. But it is worth noting that you have to clean just slightly inside that area as they tend to lay in the little folds of skin slightly inside, not just on the outside. Finally she is clear after 5 months of trying.

We now know that she picked them up these worms at school so I put "stop and grow" clear nail paint just on the ends of her nails every morning before school. This stops her from putting hand into mouth (tastes bitter). Unfortunately other children in the class have had major infestations and the school cleaners will not damp dust down desks etc. The eggs are most likely scattered over school books etc. that they share. Two children in her class are constantly seen picking their noses and wiping it on desk tops etc. Well I know from a past experience many years ago, if you pick your nose, and accidentally you put your finger into your mouth, you will have a worm wriggling in your bottom within 48 hours. It is the easiest way to catch them. Never ever put your fingers into your mouth unless you know your hands have just been washed. Nail biters....... you need to be aware of this.

The trick seems to be, if you can get them early then over counter medications work. But if allowed to multiply, they are hard to shift. Very difficult with a child because they don't really know what the wriggling sensation means, until they see dozens of worms in the loo! Anyway, we only have one term left in this school and I only hope that her new secondary school will have better classroom hygiene.

Oh and by the way, my husband and I have not had these worms so that confirmed to us that our house hygiene is generally good anyway and that it was likely the infestation was coming from outside of the home. Also my daughter had always worn clean knickers at night time so maybe this kept them contained a bit overnight, not allowing them to spread too much to other areas of the house. Thank goodness!

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Course the itch that is left behind could be D.fragilis , let's hope I'm wrong about that. Supposedly they live in the eggs of pinworms and cause much the same symptoms. Just pray its the result of taking all the drugs and herbals .

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hello sam91 I'm 25 and ive had these on and off for 6 years after i left school. Now a big horrid bout this week and i'vbe just found this forum! Are you getting on ok? It says ovex can make things worse which i took a couple of days ago and i'm wopndering about looking for something herbal. if yurs is still workin id love to hear. THANKS

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Hi

I'm a new poster looking for some urgent advice. Apols for a long post!

I'm a mum with 2 girls (7 and 4) and husband and am currently cursed with a nasty infection of threadworms that I am struggling to shift.

We first got the blighters 2.5 years ago, shortly after DD1 started school. I'm pretty sure she picked them up there - she's a thumb-sucker - but I was the only one with symptoms (a live worm in my stool in addition to some itching and the dreaded bottom tickle). But I gave us all the 2 dose treatment with Ovex and thought they'd gone away.

6 months later, the dreaded bottom tickle was back along with another live worm - again just me with the symptoms. I gave us all the 2 dose Ovex treatment, this time with full hygiene measures as well. When I was still getting the tickling sensation after a third week I saw the GP who prescribed pripsen powders, which we all did (including the follow up round). This time, it seemed to have cleared it for good.

For the next two years, I didn't seem to have any symptoms.

Then 6 weeks ago I got the dread tickle and very itchy bottom the next morning. I was on holiday at the time without access to any meds and couldn't do the full hygiene measures but as soon as I got home I took ovex etc. I thought maybe I'd imagined it but the next night DD1 came in complaining of an itchy bottom which she said she'd had for a couple of weeks now. This confirmed the diagnosis so I immediately got the whole family on Ovex - ie mebedendazole (at 4 day intervals) along with mega hygiene - daily washing of all bedding, underwear; lots of wiping o toilet seats, endless handwashing, morning showers on waking for everyone etc etc.

DD1 hasn't had any itching of any kind since, but even after 2 weeks of Ovex every 4 days, I'd find that i'd be itch free for a 3-4 days but then it would return. So after lots of researching (including this discussion thread) I sent off for the parasite cleanse recommended here. I did a full one myself, but put both girls on a very very mild version because of their ages; I didn't bother with husband because I knew he'd never do it at work; I kept us all on Ovex every 4-5 days as back up. During this time the girls continued to have no symptoms. Husband has never had any symptoms.

Then on Day 14 of the 16 day cleanse (ie last week, while we were away on holiday) I was woken at night by a mad tickling in one ear; the next morning I had tickling in my nose and throat as well as mild tickling in my bottom. Remembering what was said about them spreading to the ENT area, I took an ovex and prayed i was wrong and that it was just hay fever. It went away. I relaxed a bit.

Then 3-4 days later, on Monday evening of this week, the tickling in the ear and, to a lesser extent nose and throat, was back. I just about managed - with husband's encouragement - to put it down to hay fever and paranoia, but took an Ovex just in case. Next morning, I coughed in the shower and in my hand found what I'm pretty sure was a dead threadworm amid the mucus. It seemed as though the worms had got fed up of the inhospitable GI environment (thanks to the natural remedies) and had migrated or 'scattered' to my ENT area. Horror of horrors!

I saw my GP that day who, remarkably, didn't dismiss me as a nut, but said it was very rare (Having loooked online, I'm not so sure...). She certainly accepted that I was resistant to the Ovex.

But we're out of standard treatment options because Ovex clearly isn't working for me (nor are hygiene measures); and Pripsen powders - the 2nd line treatment - are now no longer available - shortage of the ingredient apparently. Albendazole, which is widely used around the world and is meant to be better at killing off the scattered threadworms eg in your ENT area, isn't licensed in the UK. She's trying to get help from the tropical medicine specialists but they aren't terribly interested/communicative.

So I'm at a bit of a loss, to put it mildly. The ear/throat tickling has diminished a lot but I'm now 2.5days after an ovex, so if the usual pattern continues, it'll be back by tomorrow ie Day 4). The thought of intractable headworms in myself is appalling enough but I am horrified at the prospect of the girls getting them there.

Yet while I'd be happy to risk getting some Albendazole from the US and taking it myself at the high doses that seem to be required, I don't feel confident risking it on my daughters without some medical input because of the side effects, especially for the liver. And yet if we don't get rid of the blighters in all of us, we're just going to see the infection continue. Which is a desperate thought, especially if the girls are still infected. And even if I'm the only one left with a chronic, long-term infection, I'm going to reinfect them again at some point. I feel like I'm carrying the bubonic plague!

I'm pretty sure I must have had a low grade infection over the last couple of years, just not enough to notice the symptoms. What caused it to suddenly go hyper weeks ago, I don't know.

And I'm at a loss about how I could still have enough worms in my system to be coughing them up - usually a symptom of a hyper-infection - after nearly 6 weeks of ovex every 4 days, endless clove tablets to kill off eggs (plus the other natural worm killers), and an unbelievable amount of washing and wiping. Surely it should at least have diminished. I do wonder whether all the stories out there of intractable worms means that strains of the worm are emerging that are basically resistant to mebendazole.

Phew, that was a long post. But I'm really at the end of my tether and truly terrified that the girls are going to end up with a chronic infection like mine.

Any thoughts or ideas would be really welcome. I feel quite desperate.

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Well it could just be that they were trying to escape meds I'm almost positive they can't survive in those places for any length of time. Migration of pin/thread worm certainly isn't unheard of PS in america thread worm is not the same as our thread worm, in USA they are pin worms.

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Just don't want people panicked by what USA call threadworm it's a lot worse than ours.

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thanks for the clarification - yes, it is just (just...!) pinworms.

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TBH I went down the "diatomaceous earth" root and had migrating problem but just kept taking it for

3 months and that was the end of it. A steamer is very handy for killing the eggs as only heat is capable

of this, research which food grade DE you purchase for worming people and animals.

Good luck

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Hi everyone, for years ive tried everything but never pumpkin seeds, I now live on them and for months now I have had no wiggling, no iching, nothig.

Live on pumpkin seeds and I cant see why this wouldnt work for you, eat them every day. They are also very good for you and very good for protecting you from most if not all parasites.

Enjoy worm free smile

Ps. I know it sounds to good and simple to be true but give it a try, you wont be disappointed!

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Oh also, kids can eat them aswell smile

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Oh also, kids can eat them aswell smile

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thanks for both of these suggestions. I will probably end up giving them a go - if, or more likely when, the Albendazole, assuming my GP will prescribe it, fails....

My worry about the natural methods that make the gut hostile is giving my little girls the migration problem too.

Can I just ask how long you've both been worm free?

And unknown79, do you eat them ground up or whole? I have another unrelated bowel problem which means eating whole seeds can be troublesome.

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Probably about 2 years but every time you get an itch you think the worst. Reading websites is another sure way to think your infected .I never saw a worm just my son who had them but the night before he saw them I got an itch that was no mistaking was pinworms.

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thanks very much for the info

I know I've had them for real because I saw them alive.. Plus there's no mistaking that horrible tickling sensation

And sorry for the endless questions but do you think the migrating problem was related to the DE? or just coincided?

I thought that DE worked by killing off the worms by cutting them up, rather than some of the other natural methods that create an inhospitable environment that they don't like. So I'd assumed that DE would just kill them off, rather than drive them elsewhere. Maybe not...?

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Like I said they will only migrate if they are going to die where they usually live. I really don't believe they can live in ears and noses for any length of time. If I have to do it again I would take something with pyrantel in it to

paralyse them,followed by 3 weeks of DE and 1 more dose of meds for good measure. Throw all the herbals in as well if you like but the secret for me is to paralyse them first to stop the migrating because they can probably find their way back meaning longer on the meds. This is just a theory I have and use it on my dogs as well seems to work.

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Hi

I have been reading the info above about the worms migrating. My daughter is still clear. However I still give her chopped up fresh pineapple and a handful of pumpkin seeds every day as a precaution. Or sometimes we may miss out a week at a time when she gets fed up. She takes the pineapple to school to eat at first break (with a cocktail stick, never bare hands) and the pumpkin seeds she eats at 4pm when she gets home from school.

I can see that it is possible, if you use medication on a really bad infestation, some could migrate. I noticed that even after clearing my child of these worms a few years ago, an odd one or two would come back and it was as if they had migrated somewhere and then come back to the gut after a week or so. They weren't new worms as they were an inch long so they must have been hiding out somewhere. Possibly in the liver/gall bladder as I've heard this is common.

This is why I changed the amounts of the herbs to try and counteract the problem. But it was only guesswork. I did this by using the tincture only, one teaspoon a day, for seven days, ON AN EMPTY STOMACH. I had read that the extra strength, organic tincture kills them instantly, as does pineapple. However, my child is older and could obviously take that dose with no adverse effects. I then only introduced the cloves the following week to help clear the eggs and I did not use the wormwood at all on this occasion.

One thing, it would be wise not to intermix herbal and over counter medications. Try one at a time because with herbs, other medications will affect them and could stop them from working and vice versa. I do not give any other medications at all when on the herbals whether it be vitamins or painkillers etc. and I order my herbs from a company called Organic Nutrition.

Finally, with the younger children, you could try and put them both on the fresh pineapple once a day, and the pumpkin seeds. Try to get it down them when they say they are really hungry (empty stomach). Maybe the pumpkin seeds before evening dinner and the pineapple before lunch. I would ensure they go into a bath every morning before school to bottom wash. See how it goes and repeat the herbals every 6 months. You may have to do an over counter medication occasionally also.

As long as there is no risk of being pregnant etc. an adult can take a much stronger dose of tincture. For myself, if I had this problem, I would start with two teaspoons of tincture daily for at least 7 days, on an empty stomach. Then I would do cloves and wormwood on my second week and go to tincture once a week. Then I would stop the herbals and take an over counter medication, then take up the herbals again after that. Keep alternating until you're clear. Apparently threadworms thrive on sugar. So no sugary sweets and drinks during this time.

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MumE8 - My experience was so similar to yours, I can't believe it. I have been battling with this for 3 years now. I have been on Albendazole for just over a month (I'm in Australia though). I am feeling positive about this drug for the first time - though I am on my second course and did feel mild tickling here and there even after a month. So I feel it will take some time.

I've tried just about everything, including countless courses of the regular medication. They helped, but never cured me.

I only ever saw one single worm at a time (5 times over 2 years). But I knew I had them. I started to get this strange tickle inside my nose - it felt exactly as though a worm was wiggling in my nose. Same thing in my ear. And I would get a really itchy throat, just like you. That's they way I knew I had them (not from examining my stools!). However, for about 9 months I had myself convinced I was mad, and it was all in my head.

It wasn't. I knew my own body, and I knew these subtle symptoms were foreign to me.

Somehow I got rid of them for over a year. Then before Christmas I felt a very distinct tickle in my nose. I dismissed it, but later that night I felt that dreaded feeling below. Had a look in the mirror and there was a single worm. I have been battling them since then.

I had a doctor look in my ears, throat and nose when the symptoms were really pronounced two years ago - she said there was nothing there. All I can think is that it is like referred pain - it is an indication that they are on the move somewhere in your body. I have no other way to explain it. I google the ear/nose itch but came up with nothing - I felt like I was imagining the whole thing.

This ongoing problem has really affected my life. I am so paranoid all the time - constantly checking the kids and worming them at the slightest hint of anything unusual. I find myself watching other kids at public places, dreading one of them will scratch their bottom and my kids will be infected. It's on my mind every single day.

Get hold of the Albendazole if you can. It is the only thing that has had any real effect. As it is used to treat other fairly severe parastite infections (hydatid for example), it is a strong drug and must get to every area of your body.

Good luck and keep posting.

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A few questions for those battling threadworms and finding the medication is not working:

1. Were you treated for worms regularly as a child?

2. Do you have hemorhoids?

3. Do you suffer from constipation?