About 9 months ago I suffered sever bilateral frozen shoulders. With Physio and various medicaments, 7 months on, it finally came back to 95% FRM and hardly any pain to speak of. Since then, the hips have gradually become very stiff and painful with similar symptoms as the shoulders...especially the muscles supporting the legs becoming painful as did the muscles of the mid-lower arms. Also the back muscles seem more affected than before. Has anyone any idea if the frozen shoulders affect the hips? I understand thyroid problems can be a predisposition...I have an underactive thyroid. Would be glad of your comments.
Chickabee
Hi Chickabee,
I don't know if you read my case regarding Adhesive caspulitis of the hip "frozen hip". I'm actually suffering of frozen hip since August 2012. Like you know this is the one of the most debilitating condition anyone can suffer.
I never knew what was happening to me until one day I cross by a friend that saw me limping, told her the all story about my MRI, CT scans, etc with nothing showing. She then mention tome that I probably had adhesive capsulits of the hip, since she had bilateral frozen shoulder and then sonn after she started with problems with her hips that turn in to a frozen hips.
It may not be your case, since I read heard some people having some symptoms but never develops in to frozen hip or frozen shoulder.
In the hip is not very common or regularly missdiagnosed.
I just had MUA in my hip around 5 weeks ago and Im feeling like is starting to refreeze. I do not loose my movement that I gained yet with the MUA, but I have horrible tendinitis and muscles spasms. I do not know what to make out of it.
If for any reason you had MUA in the past with your shoulders I would like to heard how it turn out.
Im so desperate myself to know if this MUA would be working for me at the end or will end up just refreezing.
I would appreciate any feedback and Im praying that your hip wont turn in to frozen hips are just terrible debilitating.
I heard do, that for some people the adhesiones are not as bad as others so they have a sooner resolution of the problem.
Thanks a lot and the best for you.
Thank you for repying Judith,
I have never had an MUA as I didn't like the sound of it...much prefer nature to takes it's course, though pain killers are necessary at times. I too, have muscle spasms and a very irritating head twitching thing that started at the same time as the shoulders. Each person is different, so it is hard to advise the best course of action in treatment. I would say I am very conservative...and it did pay off for me. The hips are another matter...cannot walk at all without pain...and getting in and out of the chair/car is excrutiating, but I have to do certain things or I'd be fit to be tied! I'll see what the doctor has to say when I see him.
Do hope you have success in whatever treaatment you find suits you.
Chickabee
Thanks for your replay. Today is actually a better day for me. All sources of treatmentes like you said are very controversial and everyone responds diferent. In my case I didnt have a choice in the last month before my treatment I was confined in bed most of the day with terrible pain. I lost my job couldnt do anything. I understand frozen shoulder is as bad the only diference you can carry and avoid overusing your shoulder. Your hip is another story.
I really do wish is not your case. I wouldnt wish this condition to anyone.
I hope I can post later how my MUA is evolving. Im sure I do have way more ROM without a doubt I guess now is just time and physio. (Im still not that sure about physio either since three days ago is what put me back in a lot of pain. Again I hope Im doing the righthing. No choice for me since, If it wouldnt be for the MUA I would be in bed at this time. Im just hoping wont refreeze thats all I think that my major concern, so far soo good.I Probably all the pain I had back was due to the physio. Now Im not surr if I should continue, since agravate my pain.
All the best for you chickabee and dont hesitate to ask if you have any questions regarding your hips. I wished I could hear more experiences in people with frozen hip. I couldn find many.
All the best for you.
When they did the manipulation under anesthesia did they not tell you that if you don't keep the joints moving it will just freeze again!
A few more thoughts have surfaced Judith that you may find helpful. I find laying flat at night with the hips in the natural straight position, with the toes straight up helps (I use a scrolled up fleece to support sides of the feet). I notice first thing in the morning when standing up the pain is less, whereas if I raise the foot of the bed at night to relieve back pain, the hips are quite painful on first standing up. So position at rest is one thing. Getting in and out of the car/bath/chair, and all other repetitive activities I do very slowly, and stand for a few seconds to get the hips comfortably weight-bearing before walking. Gentle, slow exercises going to the point of pain but no further...same as for the shoulders really. Fortunately my physio was in tune with my thinking, so her treatment really did help. Worth a try Judith...every little helps. I too seemed to go forward and a couple of steps back with physio, but this is expected as long as your physio isn't too adventurous with movement!
Take care of yourself.
Chickabee
Thanks a lot chickabee you dont know how much I appreciate your advice. Is so nice to talk to someones that knows what you are talking about. I feel so frustrated that im two years into this and not able to walk normally yet. Im using a cane I was using a walker before, so Im improving. I just feel a lot of pain in my hip when weight bearing that the cane really help me to continue with my spine align. I had a problem just with the left hip that brought me in to hobbling around and pelvis issues and all other things. Im glad you seem to be doing pretty good. Even when I Lay down I try so many diferent positions to feel comforable ending up in the same position all the time. I will try your advice maybe that will help.
Im going to physio again Monday and see how I feel. Please keep me posted in your progress. Do you still have full ROM in you hips? because I didnt have any movement in my leg, abduction, aduction,fexion, etc was all lost for me. Mine was really severe. I dont know if mine was from falling down hill in my hip.im not sure becasue it didnt freeze right away that happen after 4 months of little discomfort.
Im just praying I wont have the other frozen too.
Thanks once again and all the best.
yes they did and I actually went to physio right away. Like I said I still have the ROM I gain with MUA but what puzzles me is that I start having the familiar pain of tendonitis and my leg feeling numb and unable to move as easy. I went for physio and they did manipulation of my hip to keep the movement and really set me back but at the same time gave me more ROM. But today I felt worst then evee I almost felt like was refreezing I guess I will wait for few days and see. Wondering what was your experience with MUA after a month or two? if anyone please.
Thanks
I actually had surgery but was told to do about 3 hours of physical therapy at home every day as in 3 1-hour sessions and go to pt 3 times per week in addition to home exercises . Then they added more home exercises as time went by. That went on until I wasn't in pain. Took months. It is a very painful rehab for sure. And all the muscles and tendons are not themselves yet. They r moving around and trying to regain their muscle memory and strength now that they aren't glued down from being frozen. I have Hashimotos thyroid as do 2 other family members so far and 6 of us have had 7 frozen shoulders.
Hi Terry74787,
Thanks a lot for your replay. Your totally right regarding physio and the the structural pproblem with the all artculation in my case hip/leg. I do feel have problems with tendons ligaments, muscles. is a long recovery process for sure. Made me feel good your telling took you some time. I have good days and bad days.
I had the basic thyroid test twice and seem to be o.k wondering if is another one more extensive, because this one is not showing anything once again. But I heard people with diabetes or thyroid tends to have this kind of condition.
Once again thanks a lot Terry you gave me a piece of mind.
Sorry Terry I forgot to asked you if you had also frozen hip? or frozen shoulder?
Two frozen shoulders about 6 years apart different shoulders. Suspect I currently am getting over a partial frozen shoulder again although most say it doesn't happen twice...
oh no! I just read this when I posted to Leslie998. 
so since I am going through the beginning of my 3rd FS and I have similar symptoms in my hip I feel a bit doomed! Can I please ask a very nubie question: What is an MUA?
Manipulation under anaesthesia (MUA) and range of motion as in how your arm for example moves (ROM)
If there were such a condition as a frozen hip there would be patients who had a hip joint freeze, stay frozen for a certain time and then thaw as the name given , freezing, would suggest.
Nothing in the literature shows this. Of course this is not to say that you can;t get a very sore or painful hip. Hip restriction follows a pattern of lost ranges and can be osteoarthritis, a mono articular rheumatoid, infections and synovitis. It seems that most will improve with the appropriate treatment. Some will continue and become arthritic and require more heroic measures.
Hi James,
I always wonder why some people try to give their opinions without knowledge. Is plenty of literature addressing adhesive capsulitis of the hip " frozen hip".
You are right there is lots of literature regarding frozen hip. But if there truly is such a condition there must beat least one article descibing the length of time an untreated frozen hips lasts. Re the frozen shoulder. It lasts a certain amount of time, it freezes, stays frozen and then defrosts. A frozen hip should do the same, if not it is not a frozen joint.
Hi James,
Im currently suffering frozen hip (very often is misdiagnosed with, arthriris, ostheo, etc) and I can tell you is basically frozen shoulder just a bigger joint. So it may take a little longer to heal. Depends on the person and the severity of the condition like you know everyone is different.
I just wanted to clarify that unfortunately is such a thing a frozen hip or adhesive capsulitis of the hip.