Oh my god what is with this awful pill. After having to many side effects my doctor decided on monday that i needed to try off the mirt and come straight off i was down to 7.5mg for last 2 months and in a week was going back on my old ad dosulepin which i dodnt have any side effects but had just simply.pooped out. Anyway last night was my secont night without mirt and im not sleeping a wink my whole body has pins and needles and im so anxious and shattered that i feel i cant work today. I so tempted to go back on the mirt tonight just to get some sleep. I really just wanted off this drug as it wasnt working for my depression at that dose but higher dose had to many side effects
Kelly
So sorry to hear of your experience - seems to be quite common with a sudden withdrawal even from 7.5mg. Following the forum some manage with no problems but not me!. Unless I taper down slowly I get similar problems to you. I'm now down to 4mg but it has taken me 4 months to get down from 15mg. I will continue with a slow taper for as long as it takes cos tthis is best for me. I think you need to re-consider whether stopping abruptly is right for you or whether you are happy to run with the effects of sudden withdrawal from what is a powerful drug.
Sorry you are going through this. It is tempting to just leave it off when it has such horrible side effects, but I am being really cautious this time and have got off from 30mg then 15mg for four weeks and then 7.5mg for 5 weeks and now 3.75mg the last two nights. Admittedly I dont sleep well at all now, didnt once I was on the 7.5mg but will persevere as insomnia, despite making one feel so awful, is the least of my problems. I was reading a Kindle book the other day called The Lies my doctor told me about osteoporosis, and it seems that a study done in 2014 on 60 people over 12 months had their bone density checked and it was 10% worse than those not taking mirtazapine. I have advanced osteoporosis and I certainly don't want it worsened. Perhaps go back to the 7.5mg for a couple of nights and then try and cut it in half. Very difficult with pill cutters I know which is why I asked for the 15mg and still making quarters is hard but you cannot get anything less than 15mg in the u.k. anyway. Good luck, hope you feel better as the day goes on.
Elaine
To help tapering I asked my doc for liquid mirt (i'm in UK) which he agreed to. I also got a 1 ml syrigne (1ml liquid mirt is 15mg). It has graduations that allow me to reduce by 0.01ml !! ie I can reduce by 0.15mg mirt at a time if I wish. This puts me completely in control of how much or how little I wish to reduce with accuracy. This helps me so much and would recommend to anyone. It is ridculous for a doc to expect us to be cutting up tablets or making suspensions to cope with tapering but then I suppose they expect us to just stop quickly anyway . It certainly didn't work for me !
Hi Kelly I got some zopiclone to help me in the 1st week or 2 it helps greatly ..I no everyone says you come addicted but I didn't I took it wisely ..I hope this helps..
Thanks for the tip.
I cut my pill in halves then stopped on Monday. I stopped sleeping also an having to take a sleep aid
Thank you for all your comments last night was 4th night off mirt but omg do i feel hellish ive neen awake since 5am with servere anxiety my head unable to switch off racing thoughts and sleep is impossible pins and needles all over my body severe stomach cramps and shaking. I am so tired but cant seem to lie down. I feel im regressing back to October last year when all my depression came to ahead. I was only on 7.5mg for goodness sake. I have my prescription of dosulepin which i think im going to start tonight. I dont know whats worse the depression or anxiety. Im having the thoughts i dont want to be here anymore again and im a single mum of 3 teenagers.
Hi sharon is that diazepam? I have some in my med cupboard i got couple years ago still in date. Do you think i could take half a tablet as it says half to 1 tablet 3 times a day if needed for anxiety they are 2mg tablets. Why didnt the doctor suggest this as im having a horrendous time coming off this tablet to the point i want to just die. Ive been awake since 5am with severe anxiety and just lay tossing and turning head racing with thought's im just shattered and my stomach is in agony
I believe that diazepam are the only drugs "safely" taken with mirtazapine. GP's in the u.k. hate giving them out and normally will only do 2 weeks or maybe another two weeks if youre lucky. They don't do much for me but sometimes I feel the need rather than taking bromazepam which are really good but not available in the u.k. although I have a store still but only for emergencies like mri scans or dentist etc. I wouldnt worry about the expiry dates with them, I have some that are years old. It's antibiotics you cannot go past the sell by date. I have some 10mg diazapam but only take half maybe once a week during the evening if I think I am going to have a particularly bad night. Believe me I know how it feels and everything seems worse at 5 in the morning, my thing was 3.00 a.m. for weeks with nausea and racing heart. I am sure you will get through it. I bought some lemon balm teabags and capsules recently as they are supposed to have a calming effect but maybe that is for "normal" anxiety. Take care, try and relax and perhaps go for a walk or do something pleasant. Easy for me to say, I try to keep my mind occupied as subsequent to all my problems my dad died on 1st January and I am going through all those last hours again with him more so recently maybe since I was tapering off these horrible Mirt.
Hi Kelly the doctor didn't prescribe me anything to come off mirt it's what I had left while taking it.. once I got upto 30mg mirt I couldn't sleep.. so i used up the zopiclone as there was no way I would of got thr it when I look back. . I hope you start feeling better soon x
I only just saw your previous comments. I am really sorry you are going through this and a single mum with teenagers, I recollect you being here before. Trouble is so many things go on each day, not nice things, I tend to forget. Of course you cant go out for a walk or relax. I was a single mum when my husband died suddenly when our daughter was almost four so I do understand a bit of how you feel. Dosulepin sound pretty lethal so if you felt okay on 7.5mg why not continue with that. It is a very small dose. The only reason I am so worried about taking these type of drugs like the SSRN and SSNI is because I have severe osteoporosis and possible primary hypararathyroidism (the latter causes more calcium to drain out of the bones) so I am trying to cut all of it out and put up with the anxiety as I am anxious every day about breaking a vertibrae or my femur. I dont know if it is sheer coincidence but since taking the Mirt 30mg since January my back has been absolutely killing me and the least small chore I do I have to sit with a heatpag and codeine. As I say could be coincidence as hpt causes bone pain too. I also have this state of anxiety with useless GP surgery and have spent £6000 on an equally useless endocrinologist with overpriced blood tests and most recently a parathryoid surgeon who is old school and told me to take 50,000 IU of vitamin D a week to stir up the pth which also could account for bone pain so I am in this quandarry about mirtazapine. Anyway, sorry I am rambling on about myself. Just calm down and pop a diazapam if you think it will help you today. You are bound to feel wretched anyway with no sleep but dont start taking them as a regular thing. Take care x
Hi sharon well i cant take anymore climbing the wall with stomach pains and anxiety so im giving in and going back on the 7.5mg tonight i will just have to put up with the drowsiness through the day as i cant deal with this withdrawl symptoms. Ive just taken a half a diazepam see if this calms me down but its the crippling stomach pains and nausea. I really cant belive such a small dose of mirt could cause this much problems to come off.
Thanks for your kind words and you werent gambling on. Well i lost my mum last year and had a breakdown in october and my usual antidepressant stopped working so was prescrobed mirt 15mg it was a godsend to start as it took me out of severe depression but the drowsiness was too much and was told to cut down to 7.5. Ive been on that 2 months and still drowsy and was also starting to wake up depressed and i have severe daily nausea now for 6 months so doctor wanted to see if it was the mirt causing it. I havent had a proper full meal in months. Im petite anyway but im just not hungry at all. Anyway today is a bad day its now 4 days off and i just took half a diazepam because im so anxious. I have severe stomach pain and nausea. I have to add i have had diagnosed ibs which has gotten worse and ive been referred back to gastroenterology to see why i have 24/7 nausea. Im going to go back on 7.5mg of mirt tonoght as o jist cant deal with this anymore x
It's mad isn't it Kelly. . I didn't have anything like that bt I was only on the crap for 4months.. I'd never of thought AD could do what it does to you fullstop. . It must be so cheap & dirty .. let me no how u get on once the diazapam sets in ..hope it eases for u huni xx
Thanks hun i seem to be sensitive to ALL blooming meds thats been 15mins since i took diazepam only half a 2mg as too scared to take whole one xx
That's good that's the best way to do it 😊 when the pdr put me on zop she did 7.5mg I cnt understand y.. on them for a few months & I told the doc I wanted off so he gives me 3.75mg works almost the same.. xx
You poor girl. The nausea is horrendous I know. I went on almost starvation diet for 13 weeks, doctor gave me anti nausea tablets but they made me worse. I had an endoscopy, ct scan of pancreas but nothing found. So they came up with the fact it was anxiety and depression but I wasnt depressed. I was anxious though about the osteoporosis diagnosis and years of stress with vile nursing homes with my poor mum (I actually had to beg the registrar to give me the death certificate because it was suspicious circumstances as nobody dies of anemia these days which he did days after the funeral and only because I had to write to the nursing home and the nursing association), then there was my elderly aunt mums sister whose daughter disowned her and latterly my poor old dad. Not being a driver and doing train and bus trips three times a week takes it's toll I guess. I am still not convinced the nausea was caused by anxiety but who knows, if it comes back then I guess I will have to admit it was. I dont think you should worry too much about the valium, 2mg is very mild. I ended up taking a handful of xanax I was so desperate and that led me to mirtazapine but I couldnt convince them I wasnt depressed just couldnt stand the 24/7 nausea, racing heart and insomnia, and then four weeks later my dad died so I was in a right old state. Take care and yes, do the 7.5mg tonight but dont expect miracles immediately. xx
Are you still on the mirt hun? Do you mind me asking if it was for depression/anxiety. I lost my mum last uear suddenly but had battled depression before after i split with boys dad it hit me out of the blue. I just want to feel normal xx
No I lasted 4months on it .. 1st few weeks felt amazing that was on 15mg them went upto 30mg. . Oh my god side effects never known anything like it.. I'm on venlafaxine now 225mg am still very low at times..Iv had a couple of good days this week bt no sleep really 😕 a side effect!!! Iv got bipolar huni which I have lithium for bt the depression is severe with anxiety so I need AD . IV been on sirtraline for 2 years it was ok bt I felt really tired after taking it & all I did was yawn alday long.. got really fedup of that so got put on the mirt . I don't no sometimes I think I should of been tapering instead of takin the next type.. bt pdr instructions. Alot of people on here think ven is amazing .. have you been to councilling? ? Sometimes that works better than a pill .I dnt think il ever feel normal again.. Iv given up on that .. think iv done too much damage being ill for so long & not getting propa help.. but hopefully you will have better luck with getting on top of it ..I'm really sorry for the pain youv had to go through .. heartbreaking xx