Helps 11.25 mg Mirtazapine against anxiety?

Hi, i am from Holland and found this forum.

I am suffering from anxiety en tried many adds, nothing helps, i was going sky high.

Now i am taking Mirtazapine and have tried it in diferent doses.

30 mg was too much and 15 mg too, i would sleeping al day.

And 15 mg makes me angry en depressive.

Now i am on 7.50 mg and my sleep is good but after one hour the anxiety comes back and i can do nothing, have diazepam four times a day 5 mg.

Is there someone who takes 11.25 mg that helpes against anxiety?

I have been dealing with it for 4 years now.

Thank you very much.

Welcome Karin

Your medication does not seem to be working

Go back to your doctor and get your medication reviewed

Hello Lynne,

I have been back to my doctor and he has send me too a pdoc in 2015 because al of the ssri´s don´t work for me, i have tried four for more than 6 weeks and the only thing was that i flew high as a kite and went almost nuts.

My pdoc tried two ssri´s and also went nuts.

Mirtazapine is the only medicine i can cope with.

But it is not enough for the every day life.

So that´s why i asked here of there is someone with good results with 11.25 mg before i try it.

For now i will stick for a couple of days on 7.50 mg and see what that will do about two weeks.

Thanks for your answer Lynne, i appreciate that.

Hi Karin,

I do not think altering the exact dose of mirt will help much.  I suggest you try staying on the mirt but ADDING an SSRI (eg sertraline) to help with the anxiety.

That works for me.

 

Hello Oldboy,

Cipramil

I have tried Sertraline, Cipramil and Prozac, and none of them was very helpfull. I will stay on Mirtazapine, it works for awakening in the morning against anxiety.

The pdoc says that i maybe miss an enzym that breaks the medecine in the liver, so it build up and that results in more and more panic.

It´s a difficult issue what to do. I can use ssri´s but in a very low dose.

Nice to read that you found your mix.

And thanks for your answer.

Hello,  I live in Canada and find this an excellent forum the main difference appears to be the health care systems.

I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder, as well as bipolar disorder. I have been on Mirtazapine for several years for sleep (at least 10 years). HOWEVER Mirtazapine does not help my anxiexty.  I have been on a Benzodyazipine for anxiety and it works well for me (Clonazapan).  However, I would caution anyone  about starting on "Benzos" as they have side effects such as addiction. There's tons you can read on the internet. All that said I get scared  when think of trying to cope within benzo's.

Some things I'm trying are Mindfulness, CBT (Cognitive Behavorial Therapy), counseling, Guided Visualizations / CDs.  I wish you well and hope you find ways to put the anxiety to bed.

Hello Karinsmile

Yes it is really an excellent forum.

I also was diagnosed with an anxietx disorder and after a couple of days they chanched it in an depressif order but i don´t think that i am depressif.

Sorry for my bad English, i hope that people understand what i meansmile

I have 20 years benzo´s, more or less. The next year i must swallow more of that stuff because of building up the ssri´s.

I came from 6 pills a day and now 4.

I now there are very addictif, i am addicted i no.

I have an appointment for CBT next month.

Thank you also for your answer.

Hi Karin,

Your English is quite understandable. You sound very knowledgable about benzodyazipines - they used to be prescribed without all the concerns that exist now. It still may be a drug that's used when nothing else works for anxiety.

I wish you well with the CBT, I think it's an excellent tool but, it's not instantous.

Sending positive thoughts your way, let us know what your pdr says -

Hello Karin,

That´s fine that my English is understandablesmile

Yes i know what benzo´s are doing en that they are very addicted.

The pdoc have said in the past that if i can not cope with ad i must take benzo´s inplace.

But the mirt does something in the morning and evening when i am going to sleep, i don´t feel my heartbeat so hard as usual.

I have been only one time there and in al these years it´s the one who is listening, realy listening.

Thanks for your positive thoughts i´ll need themsmile I send them also to you.

I will let you know what the pdr have said.

Thanks for your reply.

Hi Karin039

Sorry for your suffering.  Just wanted to add that the lower doses of Mirtazapine are more sedating, some people find 7.5 mg is more sedating than 15 mg.  Also, swapping the doses may make you even more anxious especially for the first week or 10 days, so don't go up and down on the doses, just stick at the same dose.  I think you will find 11.25 mg works against anxiety very well, even 7.5 mg works well.  

I hope you find the right medicine for you.  Best wishes. 

Hello  Calmer,

Thank  you.

Yes i know that the lower the dose is how more sedating. It´s rare i have tried 30mg in the beginning, the dr gave it to me because i was in panic about another ssri.

I could do nothing and was hanging on the chair al day.

15 mg makes me to drowsy to and angry and depressiv.

Now by 7.5 mg my head has been more cleared and i am able to walk again and willing things to do, that was not by taken 15 mg, then i cared for nothing, the whole world was black in my head.

I have been making the mistake in 2015 to go up en down the dose so often that i didn´t know what works for me. Now i am trying to stick with 7.5 mg because it feels a little better.

I have tried 30 mg 6 weeks.

So when 7.5 is not working enough after a while i can always try 11.25 mg.

The time must do itsmile

I see your name and have read things from you the past year when i was lurking herebiggrin

Thank you Calmer for your reply.

Good luck Karin, the 7.5mg is good for sleep, definately the best dose (for me) for sleep, and for me personally more sedating than 15mg, or 11.25, even now I am at 4.2 mg I am sedated after taking my Mirt' 20 hours ago (last night) !  

 

So you have found your right dose?

Or are you going of Mirt?

So that is also an option for me to go down with the Mirt in time.

That´s a long time 20 hours.

Thank you for sharing this, i will keep it in mind.

Calmer one more question.

Do you have liquite Mirt?

Because you are taking 4.2 and my pills can not be broken in that.

Yes I am tapering off Mirt now, very slowly.  And yes I have liquid Mirt' ~ it is available here in the UK, not sure if it is available there, youu will have to enquire.  If not, enquire is Mirtazapine Sol Tabs are available, they dissolve on your tongue, but can be dissolved in water and then with a measured syringe, can be broken down into smaller doses.

 

Oke, i did not know.

Liquid Mirt we do not have here.

The Sol Tabs are available here too, then i must ask my dr to prescripe me.

I shall keep it in mind.

I have read about the syringe in 2015 here.

I have been looking how you are doing that and it seems easy to do.

Thank you Calmer for your answer and also good luck with withdrawal.

I take a benzodiazepine also. I take a .5mg and a .125 mg in the morning. I take klonopin.

Hello Tonia,

Are you also in withdrawal?

Or do you take it with the Mirt?

And how much of mirt are you taken if i may ask?

And is it also for anxietx?

A lot of questionssmile

 

Thank you Karin, Betsy uses the Sol Tabs, credit to her for this advice:  Sol Tabs dissolve readily in water but it does settle, she uses half water & half Ora-Plus suspension liquid (from Amazon) the latter keeps the Mirt suspended long enough to dose accurately.

Best wishes.

Thanks for your advice Calmer.

I keep it also in my mind.