I am applying for PIP. So worried with what I am reading about the process

Hello Suzee,

I rang the DWP a few days after the face to face and asked them to send me a copy of the assessment report, which they did.  (you will not be given a decision at this point)    When the report arrived I was able to read how the assessor scored me.  These scores are what the DWP base their decision on.   It was a couple of weeks later that I was actually given a decision.  

It is a nightmare Suzee and so unsettling for you over the Christmas x 

to go from high rate on both indef to nil  points is incredibly rare im sure....i dont understand in fact how it could happen other than the person had dramatically improved or maybe with criteria changing u lost it all...and its a shame u didnt know about appealling??

No it's not rare, it has happened to a lot of people. The criteria for PIP is much different to that of DLA and if you don't do your research before your assessment you won't know.

well in my opinion it is rare...ive never heard of it happening to be quite honest until Billy messaged....I also dont think it is ''much'' different...yes different criteria but the basics are very much the same....the only thing im fearfu of is loing my car as I see numerous specialists and some in other parts of the country...my carer uses the car to ferry me around...and I can not use public transport....but if it goes pair shaped ill appeal and if all else fails then theres not a lot i can do...im not going to let it ruin my christmas as ive been upset and stressing about it all

Thank you so much Sukes for your help and kind words....we can only be honest and hope we have a fair assessor...im goign to take my carer...do u know the rules on recording the whole assessment>>?? do you have to inform them or can it be recorded on a fone> xx

Hi Suzee,

yes you can record the assessment, but I believe you have to get permission from the DWP and you would have to provide 2 identical copies of the recording at the time.  I have heard that some people have recorded it on their phone, but this is apparently not acceptable to the DWP.  There are others on here who would be able to give you much more information on this, so watch this space. x

I heard on the radio this morning something about the government wanting to reverse the steady increase in mobility cars being taken back. They quoted that there are 700 cars being repossessed each week by mobility because people are losing their high rate when going from DLA to PIP. It has something to do with anybody that gets any rate of mobility PIP can have a car from mobility. Can't see that working myself as the standard rate is less than half of the enhanced rate. But wait and see I suppose.

Hi Billy,

the following is something I read on the Benefits and Work website a couple of weeks ago.  It said other things also, but anyone can see the full article if you hop over there.

Penny Mordaunt, minister for disabled people, told MPs last week that she was planning to:

Allow claimants to keep their Motability vehicle whilst appealing a decision that they do not qualify for the enhanced rate of the mobility component of PIP.

Allow claimants to continue receiving the mobility component of PIP if they are abroad for more than 13 weeks, even where the reason for absence is not connected with medical treatment.

Allow claimants to access the Motability scheme even if they are not in receipt of the enhanced rate of the mobility component of PIP.

Billy, it doesn't have to be quite as specialised as the police type of machine.  You can record on two separate tape recorders.  They didn't have a problem with mine not being PAT tested.  I had to plug my recorders in the other side of the room and the assessor can be heard clearly but I am fairly quiet and I was facing slightly away from the recorders so at times it's hard to hear what I said.  I would take a fairly long extension lead if I'm assessed again in order to prevent this happening again.

Suzeelew, if you do want to record your assessment you must let your assessment provider know in advance, not DWP.  Assessors have the right to refuse to be recorded so the provider will need to match you up with one who will agree to it.  Their tape just gets stored after the assessment and wouldn't even be listened to unless there was a problem.

If you want a copy of the report the assessor writes you can phone DWP the day after your assessment.  It might already be there but if not they'll make a note that you want a copy and send it out when it arrives.  This is the one occasion in the whole process for me that DWP were efficient.  I received the report the same week that I had my assessment.  

Have you got a date for your assessment?  I hope it goes well and you get the award that you are hoping for.

Oh i can really understand your fears and concerns and yes ive read of the assessors lying to, infact i know they do as my sone na dmy granddaughter who has MS got refused PIP so i dont hold oiut much hope of me getting it for M.E. hubby has had his form in to apply, not sure if its worth applying quite honestly. IT is very stressful and we are thnakfull at least we both have our state pension to survive on. I used to get told in my email that i had replies from this section but not anymore, anyone know why ? 

Thanks Anthony just read this to my husband, have decided its not worth applying on the basis of info given hear. As said he has no backup, not under any carer, hospital consultant , no evidence apart from gp who said he should be a lot worse than he is!  with his rhematoid arthritis. I know for a fact that i dont stand a chance in getting it with my ME, either as again under no carer,not on any medication as there is none that helps. Neither am i willing to attend wearing no makeup and my hair not done just to prove a point.

I thank you Anthony for spelling it out as it is, And deepdown we already knew anyway. But all of you who deserve it and clearly a lot of you do i wish you all well. persevere and fight it all the way,,

Sue 

David precisley this is what i thought, so will someone explain please why the over retirement aged are targeted. My hubby was born in January 1949, if he been born in 1948 they would have left him alone. its appauling whats happening, how do they come to a conclusion that ones who were told they had the higher rate like 10 years ago dont qualify now who are older and generally speaking get worse with time.

The rules said that you’ll carry on getting DLA if you were 65 or over on 8 April 2013.  I was 65 in May 2013 so missed out by just a month!  However I was one of the lucky one's and was eventually awarded PIP.   

Hi Scally

​Ive been so anxious and stressed that I didnt come bk here until now...I had my face 2 face 3 days ago....the 4th of January....It wasnt as bad as I expected to be honest...she just seemed to keep it brief and even the physical test was over and done with in about 2 minutes...I have provided a lot of evidence tho...so not sure how it will go...She seemed very pleasant....or maybe a case of the '''smiling assassin'''??? They do seem to ask some strange questions though but anyway I can ony wait and see now....Im not holding my breath as a lot on here thought it had gone ok but it hadnt....thank you all for your replies

Hi Suzeelew,

I'm so glad that the assessment is over for you, you did all you could do, now unfortunately it's the waiting game.  I sent for the report on my assessment a few days afte the F2F so maybe it would be worth you doing the same, at least you will have an idea of how the assessor rated you. keep us posted. x

Hi Susan

​Have you ever been under a specialist or any spport group?? It seems a shame as the criteria is different from DLA?? Maybe give it a try?? At least if you try you have given it a go??

hope things get either easier for you or you do at least get some financial help

​With regards

​Suzeelew

Seems so unfair David!!! This is a cruel change!!! Talk about hitting ppl who are already struggling!!! Surely if ppl have been awarded indefinite shouldnt that hold something for us?

​What is the latest David? Have u appealed at all or reapplied?? I think it is so awful to take ppls cars off them!!! I couldnt do that job of retrieving them...well in my state i cudnt do any job but you know what i mean

wonderful to see a straight forward success story!!! did u get same rate Alexandria? may i ask your circumstances and evidence you had? thank you

Sukes thank you....ive rang for a copy of the report, the man was very kind on the phone...do the assessors actually write down the points they have allocated do you know?? how are the reports set out?? omg isnt it such a worry!!! how did u get on in your claim?? hope everything worked out for you!!! thank you x

Hello Suzeelew,

yes the assessor scores every descriptor and there is a well known benefits site that you can  cross check your form with to see how you MIGHT be rated by the DWP,  I say MIGHT as nothing is definite.

I was lucky, my report was viewed positively by the DWP and I received enhanced on both counts.  Good luck to you. x