I am new to the Bluey experience

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Hello all

I am new to the blues and am terrified. This site has been very positive, which makes a change to the usual feedback on Orlistat. I am going to attempt a 6 stone loss, heres to the long haul. My problem is getting started. I am unsure as to how to stock my house with food that will compliment the diet I need to follow. Am i required to follow a strict 1500 calorie diet a day. Counting all the grams of fatper 100g, I also need to look at the sugar content as I am a diabetic? Please help.

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Hi Rhyad

Im new as well and would appreciate similar advice. Do you need to stick to a certain calorie and fat intake? Does the fat intake differ for different amounts of daily calories or do you stick to a certain level of fat per meal?

many thanks - good luck Rhyad!

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Hi Lindzic

I was looking at the recommendations that only 10g of fat is eaten per meal, and only 5g of fat per 100g. Confusing I know. I poured some ketchup into an egg cup and when filled was approximatly 50g. Ketchup by the by has 0.1g of fat per 100g. So to my way of thinking I can have 200g of a food stuff that has 5g of fat per 100g, such as Uncle Bens sweet and sour sauce.

That is as far as I got before my brain hurt. I am going to attemp a shop, fill my trolley with meat, veg and fat free items. I will then add the fatty items checking that I can measure the items out per 100g. I think from there it will be trial and error.

I hope that you are also successful on your journey.

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Please forgive me if I am misunderstanding your question and answering below in a way that isn’t what you mean.

I believe for this to work you have aim for:

• a reasonable number of calories (for me this is 1200-1400 a day)

• and about 30g of fat a day with no more than 15g of fat in a meal

• and some sweaty exercise most day.

On the food front you need to add up what you are eating each day. So for example today I have had 1282 cals and only 22 g of fat, which is too little fat for me to do well today and I should have planned it better. This is what I ate - the first figure is cals, the second is g of fat ( it looks better on my spreadsheet but I can't seem to lay it out properly here)

Oat So Simple Original 98 2.3

180ml skimmed milk 58 0.4

cod liver oil capsule 10 1.0

Cup of coffee splash of skimmed milk 10 0.1

9 almonds 55 5.0

salad 30 0.6

bowl of fruit salad 200 1.0

25g cooked chicken 38 0.9

Cup of coffee splash of skimmed milk 10 0.1

Cup of coffee splash of skimmed milk 10 0.1

156g wholemeal bread 339 3.9

prawns 154 0.2

low fat mayo 17 0.7

salad 30 0.6

6 walnuts 50 5.0

vanilla yoghurt 65 0.0

400g strawberries 108 0.4

Yesterday I had 1168 cals and 29g of fat which is a bit more like it. It consisted of:

Oat So Simple Original 98 2.3

180ml skimmed milk 58 0.4

cod liver oil capsule 10 1.0

9 almonds 55 5.0

3 coffees splash of skimmed milk 30 0.3

prawns 130 1.6

salad 30 0.6

apple 53 0.1

banana 110 0.6

6 almonds 37 3.3

2 brazil 43 2.0

5 hazelnuts 37 3.6

Cup of coffee splash of skimmed milk 10 0.1

co-op Healthy eating lasagne 370 8.4

diet coke 1 0.0

Del Monte raspberry smoothie lolly 96 0.0

You have to look at the weight of the portion – or weigh it – and then if it is say 225g you multiply the cals per 100g by 2.25 to get the cals in your portion, and the fat per 100g by 2.25 to get the fat in your portion. If you add this all up every day until you get the idea, you can stay in the right zone.

Sorry again is this is too detailed and obvious.

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Hi RR

Thanks for this. Do I understand correctly that you are more successful by having 30g of fat a day than if you only have say 20g?

Many thanks

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For me ( and I think this matches the theory) the answer is yes, as long as you stay within the same calorie intake. I think this is because keeping up a reasonable fat intake prevents your body from going into starvation mode and so dropping your metabolic rate, and also because one third of those calories from fat go straight through. If you ate those calories as protein for example, they would stay with you.

It also seems common sense to take your fats as the more healthy type of fat if possible, but I don't think that affects the principle.

I do feel a bit fraudulent giving out dietary advice as I am a long term lardy, but I have amazingly lost 2 and a half stone in under 10 weeks so far without feeling hungry and with only one ( but well deserved) side-effect episode.

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Hello RR

Thanks for your advice. Who better to give advice than a person in the same shoes as us all. Better then advice from someone who has never been on the large side.

Congrats on your weight loss, amazing.

I was concentrating on the fat content to begin with and get that right. I am finding that what I plan to eat, the fat content and the calories do take up a lot of my waking thought process.

What salad are you having that has 0.6g of fat? I simply assumed that veg and fruit would be fat free. I was intending to eat a meat (like chicken breast or salmon) and a lot of salad, toast and fat free yogurts to begin with. I fear that I may end up with the horrid side affects that keep us all on the toilet. I am not taking them at the mo as I am unwell and barely eating, it would be a waste to take them.

I have managed to lose 1/2 a stone, without the pills, but still have a long way to go.

Rhyannan

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It's different every time but I worked it out properly a couple of times and use those figures now without recalculating.

It is usually a pile of lettuce, spinach, beetroot, 3 sorts of peppers, spring onion, cucumber, tomatoes and some balsamic vinegar.

R

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RR - thanks for the very detailed explanation...my goodness maths is not my strong point but have written your method down....I feel I am not eating enough fat at the moment....I am not keeping a food diary either....being a former Weight Watcher makes you very conscious of the calorie count and you never forget it, ever. I drink plenty and feel that that is great for the system. Really appreciate your help, thanks.

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How are you with spreadsheets? I could set up a simple Excel one to work out your daily fat and cals for you if you type in the basic information. If this would be helpful, send me your email address in a private message and I'll knock one up for you.

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Hello RR

I am thankfully IT literiate, but I would still be gratful for your help. However, is your computer xp or Vista; they are not compatable with Excel programmes? But worth a try.

I am still having trouble with figuring out the fat content, but had my breakfast this morning and had 8.7g of fat. The calorie counting I will leave until I have got my head around the fat figures. I don't eat inbetween meals, and all my drinks have no fat in them, so that helps.

I had: -

1oz or 30g of Tescos Oat Cereal

150ml of Red Top Skimmed Milk

1/2 teaspoon of honey

1 slice of Hovis Wholemeal Bread (toasted)

5g of Flora Extra Light

I was quite pleased with myself. The fat figure I got was by looking at the 100g fat measurement on the packet and adjusting it accordingly for the weight I had in the breakfast. Although, it would appear by doing it that way, that 10g of measured fat, in every meal, is actually quite hard to achieve. But what ever I miss out on in my breakfast and lunch, I will make up for in my dinner I have no doubt

:lol:

I wil have to register propley today, given the chance by my son (17 months and a handful). I will let you know. But thanks again for the help!!!

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Hey RR.

Really like the idea of sweaty exercise every day. Gave me a naughty giggle. LOL

Lelly xx

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The giggling sort is my favourite sort of sweaty exercise - I haven't been counting it so far but feel inspired to do so now!

I have had a few emails asking for the spreadsheet and am happy to send it to anyone ( please manage your expectations of quality as I am not Bill Gates!) if you send me a private message with your email address so I can send it to you.

R