I live with a step son who has most of the traits of "p

I live with a step son who has most of the traits of "psycopathy"

A term not lightly used but I need to show his behaviour is not.."Normal teenage behaviour"

He is now 18.

He lives here more like a cuckoo than a child.

He has stolen and continues to do so without remorse. His 16 year old brother is blamed and the clever manipulative inferences are used to adeptly move the attention of his Father from himself.

His brother now dislikes him intensely and wishes to move out of the home away from the constant,wearing actions of his older sibling.

we shall call the 18 year old K.

His Father is a patient man, mild mannered and generous. He is determined to try to get "K" back on track. he cannot understand why such a bright,potentially talented child has gone so astray. he blames himself.

He has forgiven serious actions such as stealing his money by using credit card..stealing the car...stealing valuable items...

He often uses the excuse for inaction of "Not enough proof"

K dislikes me intensely.. I think because I have not left the family home...and because I have always challenged his actions and have refused to be cowed by them.

Over the years he has manipulated members of the family into thinking I am "Too strict" and "I hate him"

This of course has led to serious differences between my husband and myself. So much so that I nearly left home . However I was determined that, a then, sixteen year old child would not run me out of the home I had built and away from a husband I love.

Once when he ran away he said he would only come back if I left..Family members suggested I did move out to"give him space".

For the sake of his brother and sister I refused.

From then, there has been an uneasy truce between us..I firmly believe that my action of ignoring his behaviours apart from a "Motherly" comment has been the only way to protect my sanity against his mind games.

Of course his behaviours have directed the attention even in this article to others!! Making me appear to be the person with a problem...

of course I do have a problem but when he is away...all problems vanish.

His siblings also notice the lightening of the atmosphere in the family home at his absence.

He cannot hold down a job. he has stolen from places of work...but it was never his fault.

He does not learn from mistakes.

He gains all he needs from the family home, Food, shelter,luxuries,holidays (He has to come with us because we cannot trust him alone in the house...stuff vanishes...from food to expensive electrical equipment)

To outsiders he is polite,charming, hard working, caring...

His room does not reflect this..he showers only when he knows it is beneficial to him. The bathroom when used is left in a mess...and I mean a mess..

His room is a "dungeon" of dirt and chaos...more so than the normal teenage room...( I have mothered 5 children and this is definitely not normal)....

But it is so difficult to explain the differences ....

I stopped worrying about his room years ago when I realised it was becoming a battlefield between us...and he had no remorse or even anger at my attempts to encourage him to live in more organised and clean surroundings....in fact he was very good,and still is, at getting his Father to blitz his room when the smell starts pervading the house.

The desire for gaining something..either material or his father's undivided attention, leads him to become overly diligent and helpful..once the room is cleared he will spend hours decorating the walls with posters...mildly ponographic...and shocking...to raise comment... His Father's reaction is " He really is trying, look how hard he is working to make his room nice"...But it reverts within a few days...

He will actively place himself between my husband and I walking between us ...taking his full attention..

On holidays, eventually , he will try to widen his perceived rift between us and accuse me of "Ignoring" him...

Last holiday I was approached by my husband yet again, he explained K was really upset because I was ignoring him..the three of us sat down to discuss this with me being the accused.

I asked him to explain exactly how I was ignoring him, and he said" You did not say how well I flew my kite"

I gently suggested that at 18 he was rather too old for me to be standing behind him and applauding on his ability to fly a kite and that I was not ignoring him but letting him enjoy his freedoms and pleasures as a man without me being a mother hen.

He really could not argue and I believe that my husband then saw there was something not quite right in his son's arguments.

Since then there have been no more direct accusations against me and I have been able to live with the uneasy truce.

I could go on.. but really I need to conclude...

Living with a person such as this will gradually wear you down to the detriment of family relationships...and worse it will make you feel that it is YOU that is in the wrong..YOU have the problems...YOU are to blame..

My advice is to be strong for the sake of more vulnerable members of the family. They in turn will find their own ways to cope or leave for unfortunately there is no easy solution, the K's of the world will never change their personalities.

Have faith in yourself and your actions.You are not becoming senile, you have not misplaced those things..you are not a bad parent or partner, you are a the survivor of one of the most difficult social situations imaginable.

Read all you can. Understand your situation.

Most importantly....be kind to yourself and think about what is good for you...and act on it.

Take care and may you find peace .

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I have a Line Manager at work exactly like this. You have described her to a T.

It's comforting to know that people like this are not unique but having said that it must be worse for you than for me obviously because I can walk away from it at 5pm, although I do carry it home sometimes mentally, and it does affect my family/home life.

I hope things work out for you in the future.

Good luck.

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Its interesting to read about your situation . I'm sure my twin sister suffers from some kind of personality dissorder.

My father (mainly) and sister were very physically abusive toward me growing up, the problems were always blamed on me ,and I left home at 17 because I couldnt stand the violence any more.

My twin sister was the favorite , and he acted very differently toward her. It was like they were jealous of my mothers love for me, and were on a constant mission to make my life hell at every chance .

People from outside the family who spent any time with us would comment on how my father obviously disliked me . My sister was also violent toward me . The violent physical behaviour would usually occur when there was no other people present , and they would \"play dumb\" when my mother or anyone else would question what was going on.

I spent a great deal of time having surgery in hospital as a child , and even to this day my sister views this as an advantage , almost like I was given a special holidays to Disney World that she was denied. (I guess this may have been about the attention I got and the fact that when I was younger my mum would stay with me in hospital).

I have a deteroirative neurological condition and have been very ill for the last six years . My sister refuses to belive there is anything wrong with me , and is deeply jealous of the fact that I cannot work , am on state benifits , and bizzarly views my situation ,again, as some kind of advantage over her, she complains that she has to go to work everyday and pay tax so I can (in her opinion) live a life of luxury. She had admitted to my mother that she has a deep hatred for me and that she is jealous of me , but this still doesnt stop her behaviour.

My father died a couple of years ago and the similarities between them are so obvious now ,that my mother has become very upset and worried about my twins future. My sister is very unhappy in her life takes no advice from anyone ,and see's everyone and anyone as to blame for how she feels as a person. She is often nasty to people in public if they get in her way , she gets road rage , and once followed a man back to his house in her car to go crazy at him , just because he cut in front of her in traffic.

Her violence toward me is totally crazy , weather we are in public ,or in the car , or private she \"kicks off\" screaming and shouting and cannot control herself. Two weeks ago I almost called the police because she punched me in the face and went crazy while driving , simply because I had difficulty getting in the car because of my illness. I'm now being gossiped about by mutual friends and snubbed by people we know because she told people I had attacked her ,and she had to punch me because I \"pulled her hair\". I am male , and she is a very attractive feminine woman so people who dont know her well , and dont know the history, belive her,and assume I'm some kind of mysogynistic \"wife beater\".

My mother is now terminally ill , and I have had to \"dissconect\" with my twin sister to try and keep the peace,but its becoming increasingly impossible. I have a fantastic cognative therapist ,who I see through the pain clinic at hospital , and she is sure my sister has a personality dissorder , but she told me that these types of problems are not given the recognition they diserve and there is little funding in the NHS for practioners to offer such people help.

I'm trying to hold things together for my mother , but due to my own situation it is very difficult , I honestly can see me having to get my twin sister sectioned in the future , thats if she doesnt stab, kill or seriously injure someone befor then . Its hard living life bei

Hi Guys

It was really sad to read your experiences.....Psychopaths are out there in all walks of life, taking what they want and to hell with anyone who gets in their way! There is a good forum linked to the Robert Hare website which might help support you all

Best Wishes

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