Lichen Sclerosus: an alternative approach

Breaking free from toxins and eliminating those accumulated is one of the objectives of a protocol that seems to be working.

The methodology is described in a work book on its way through the publishing process which it would be great if we could follow along together. i'm interested in how people are managing to avoid toxins and in your ideas inorder to enhance the experience.

what are your weaknesses? mine is taking supplements....but i now realise it has to be done. how do you feel about supplementation?

do you have any tips to improve the 'job' of taking supplements? skilled techniques welcome!!  

Hi Marey, I just don't know anything about LS, I read a little but not clear on this...never heard of it.

I had a breakthrough today, I think....I Hope....I've followed the blood type book years ago and being a Type B, it tells me to avoid chicken....I did for a long while and concentrated on turkey which is good for me and also bison and lamb, but fell off the wagon and was eating too much chicken in the last year I think.....all clean chicken products but chicken.

There is a lectin in foods that causes havoc for many and in my case it's lectin in the muscle of chicken. And my joints have been getting worse and worse and I have stopped acupuncture but NOW will stop chicken.....Just came home with a lovely pound of NZ ground lamb and making a special soup.

I don't know if this makes sense to you but I'm sure it does.

I guess my weakness is supplements but I like this about me, open to alternative healing.

For me i hear and read what i should be taking and have been told by by pass Dr's i need to take certain suppliments but my liver specialist says no not to take them. Then three months ago my gp says takes another 4 suppliment combo. So the long and short i find this a very confusing subject. Liver specialist did bloods after not taking suppliments bypass Dr ordered after Seven months with out them and my levels had not changed at all. He wont give me the print out so i cant check. 

How do we know if any of this helps or not?  

Wilma

Ps looking forward to trying though. Sick of feeling so lousy. Cant wait till i can buy Gillys book. 

Be wise about choosing supplements that do not have harmful fillers and other undesired ingredients.  Read the label.

As much as possible eat proper nutrition.

What are exactly are the toxins you are referring to? How does one rid themselves of these toxins?

A lot of substances are considered safe to a point, but toxic in excess. Curious to know exactly what you mean. Im all for good health, but like to know the specifics.

Yes, fillers are not vitamins or nutrients. They are chemicals.

The link below discusses 4 of them and what they are used for.

I was surprised to see I had a cabinet full of vitamins full of fillers which really makes it no different that taking pharmecuicals with harmful side effects.

I now rethink popping all those pills.

Google vitamin fillers you must avoid

Emis Moderator comment: I have replaced the link with a suggested Google search term rather than a specific website.

lectins ...tell me about them!!

getting back yo you......thanks for this xxxxxxxxxx

oh thanks wilma...loove you!

ok i'll come back to you on this ...lots of recommendations but got to rush out...meanwhile check out liver flushes/liver cleanses and we'll talk again xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

excellent advice dreaming....thank you so much!!!!!!

what are your recommendations please...will share mine ....getting back to you asap xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

thanks so much for your enquiry meslaton.

will have to get back to you as rushing out but would you consider which toxins YOU think may be effecting you and we'll chat further.... very much looking forward to it and thanks so much for being here!

you are a delight xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Very helpful Alan, moderator. Thank you!

Marey we should try to get as many minerals as possible from food then if we are lacking  then we supplement, remember some supplements have co factors so without them they will be useless. Example for magnesium to be affective it needs to be taken with B6 complex, bicarbinate, and boron these can be spread out throughout the day they don't need to be taken all at once.

Wiltmatm

I agree with Marey you should look into liver/kidney flushes and detoxes you could probably benefit greatly from these. I can send you an inbox with examples and instructions if you wish or alternatively you can goole Hulda Clarke liver flush.

Thanks Kellie. Now you have said her name i remember about 6/7 years ago my husband and i did her liver cleanse. That was pre having gall bladder removed. I had many many stones and drs were woried one  could  block one of my bile ducts. So out it had to come. Still have a bottle of some very large and many very small bile stones i developed when i had my gastric band. Ha ha. Read some where they were used by witch drs so hung on to them. Just a bit silly of me. Lol. 

If its not too hard could you inbox me the directions?  I will forget otherwise her name and i am in bed. Had heel injected tonight and am pretty sore. 

Thanks for you advice. Will make hubby do it with me again. He is going to love it. 

Wilma

Ha ha!

Sure he'll love it...oh gosh I'm not good at these things either. I follow paleo with respect to the principles of whole foods inclusive of supplements. 

I am so distressed that you parted with your gall bladder wilma. I was in attendance to a gatric band op...but wasn't too comfortable about it. I felt for the guy as he was leaving the hospital...he seemed so alone.

Can the bands be removed? I 'm no longing practising as retired so out of touch ...you may know more about such a possibility?

No gall bladder ...no problem...ok well lets look into that. Have found one wonderful resource. Don't be afraid of stones...pay attention to them and address their cause ...but the body is being effective in shifting pre-sh*t !!!!!

listen i do much gentler de-tox stuff but if you and kellie (hi kellie) are minded to do the clarke flush...i'll have a go too with you....gulp...tremble...plus with your hubbie that will make 4. Good round number....eek oh no what am i saying..........!! Enema anyone?

hi kellie ...

Entirely agree with you...but this is like a kind of insurance policy to shift LS. You may not like Ginny's protocol....which would make me sad...supps are a big part...but I do hope you'll follow it and hold my hand!!...and I'll hold yours...you can substitute in foods ...eg I take brazil nuts between 2 and 4 a day max 12 per week for my selenium since that's the foulest of supps....but I really need it..plus my iodine balancing act..waiting to be iodine tested and Ig too, for antibodies I hope, will also be carried out ...re: maybe hashimotos. eek! But I reckon the protocol will fix the lot.

Marey I have no problem with taking supps if needed, I already take a few. I just think if you can get it from food you should plus it is cheaper. Talking of which I forgot to buy Brazil nuts earlier. Looking into Iodine too.

I will inbox you a couple of diffrent ones now so you can take you pick.

Hi all, I've been taking Milk Thistle liver support for a lot of years...trusting it's keeping my liver healthy. labs come up in good range, will be getting annual labs later this month.

Do you have a liver disease Joy?  

Wilma. 

This may be difficult for some to digest but used coffee enemas for a while pre gastric bypass. Yes band was removed as well as my stomach. Coffee enemas are very good for struggling livers in fact managed my liver disease for 1 year with no meds and my levels stayed good. Since i have had gastric bypass i have had very loose bowel motions several times a day so very difficult to pick a time suitable now. 

I think if i remember right the liver detox involves drinking a large amount of oil which concerns me a fair bit. Coconut oil and hemp oil sends me running nearly instantly. 

I guess one bad night is not too hard to get around any way. Will let you both know when i can get the stuff for it. 

Thanks Marey