i hadn't realised magnesium( among other things) was so important in the absorption of calcium and vit d. Several internet postings suggest that we should take the same amount of magnesium as we do calcium.Ive just looked at my supplement tablets and they contain 300mg magnesium and calcium 800 mg (per 2 tablets taken at different times) amongst other things .any thoughts?
My bones book says Calcium to Magnesium ratio 2:1. Then she says 320 mg for women, 420 mg for men is daily recommended allowance.
Calcium 800-1200.
Zinc 8 mg women, 11 men. Hard to find it that low at my stores.
My bone formula I;m taking is 1000 calcium and 500 magnesium,...
Link to Strong Bones Support Group (2):
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/strong-bones-support-group-2--513840?page=0&order=Oldest#2128638
Here is the Chat Room Strong Bones Support Group post.
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/strong-bones-support-group-511551
The conversation started here:
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That's reassuring Layne, thought I might need an extra supplement 😫
You mean this is in connection with osteoporosis?
You can control the amount of magnesium by taking less especially if the advice is to take equal to calcium.
With calcium tablets I only take one if I believe my calcium via foods is insufficient.
Can you put this under osteoporosis and osteopenia as well. People will be missing some of these posts as they only refer to the osteoporosis forum.
Post menopausal women need extra calcium, four serves instead of three.
that would translate to a tub of yoghurt, a piece of cheese, the equivalent of a glass of milk and then judge if extra is gained from other sources.
For people who do not have dairy they would probably need calcium supplements then gauge how much from other sources.
I still don't think dairy is the best and only source of calcium for us. Highest rates of osteoporosis happen to be in countries that have highest dairy consumption - although I concede that Vitamin D may have something to do with the rates as well, being northern countries.
many leafy greens, like collards, kale, broccoli
For people who can have dairy it is the easiest I believe. It is more difficult for dairy free diets to get enough. I doubt I could make the four serves without my dairy and there are other goodies in there too.
Having said that, my husband cannot have dairy but his soy milk is calcium enriched.
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Why I think it is easier with dairy is that I have milk in my tea, have some yoghurt, a piece of cheese some days, but the other ways of getting it are not as regular for me. And I guess I love my dairy.
Hi Kathleen et al
I've created a discussion called Osteoporosis and Supplements, in Osteoporosis and Osteopenia. The Link is given below.
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/osteoporosis-and-supplements-515345?page=0&order=Oldest
Link to Osteoporosis and Supplements
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/osteoporosis-and-supplements-515345?page=0&order=Oldest
Thanks Colin.
Sorry about the duplication, things respond a little too slowly occasionally.
Hopefully the supplements discussion will build up a nice database of good information
Bye
The book I'm reading says dairy is very acidic and therefore causes bone loss. Says the US has highest calcium intake from dairy and highest osteoporosis , especially in hips. Harvard study, compared black women with African, and Asian with Asia, US drank more milk and more osteoporosis, than other countries.
they compared women who drank more milk to those who drank less, more had more osteoporosis.
bummer...
Nah I don't buy it. For every argument like this you can find plenty to offer the opposite and there are too many factors involved as well like genetics, quality of all food in a particular place, whether people are short on things like vitamin d and magnesium, etc.
Studies would have to take in all the other factors. Damage is done when young too where diets are based on junk food.
Any premise can be proved. You just hunt for anything that supports your stance.
Sugar is bad for you for example yet my daughter can eat it whereas she has all these other allergies and intolerances.
Alcohol is a good example. You could argue it is good or bad.
The effect of the environment has impacted hugely on our quality of food as well.
Dairy works well for me but not for my husband.
I still wonder about it, as obviously until humans started drinking the foreign milk of domestic animals, we didn't consume dairy after infancy. I don't avoid dairy but I would never make it my primary source of calcium.
Does it all go back to things in moderation verses excess?
Having a good balance of different foods at same time?
Live been eating almonds galore and drinking almond milk because I'm off so many other things, then I read one can develop allergy or if one has inflammation issues then almonds not so good.
Perhaps a little "dis" an' little "dat" (just being silly)
I believe you are right. Moderation and good variety. Apparently our stone age and neolithic ancestors ate hundreds of different kinds of plants, whereas we eat about thirty (something like that) and of those, about five of them almost all the time. Does seem to be setting us up for deficiencies of one sort or another, doesn't it?
We have evolved too. They ate a lot of meat as well.
My daughter eats meat three meals a day because there is so much she cannot eat.
She also eats sugar.
She is an anomaly lol!