Menopausa, Ansiedade ou Câncer???!

Hi all....

I've listed about this before but is seems like my saga continues. I'm 49 and after having streaky blood in my discharge for about two weeks I decided to go to the doctor.... my usual doctor wasn't available so I saw a different GP.

I've been on citalopram for 8 years now for my health anxiety that came after the birth of my second child. Anyway, I explained the problem to the GP and she immediately said we better take a Pap test, I said I'd had one 5 months ago and thought it may be menopause related, she stated that as my periods have been regular to date, it can't be that, and she was more concerned about cervical cancer....so of course that sent my health anxiety in in to total overdrive!!!

I then explained to her about my increased anxiety and mild panic attacks... and the feeling of being detached, unable to sleep, she then said my anxiety was worsening and I had to see a psychologist...

So, my periods started yesterday ( 5 days early), not quite normal, they seem to be starting and stopping... but I have the usual cramps and sore back etc.., however I'm now in a state of constant anxiety as I'm convincing myself I have cervical cancer ( even although I have a pap every year and they have always been clear) and its not the menopause .... !!

Any advice please ladies!

Hi Alice, I went to five doctors before the last one told me that I was in perimenopause. She did not look at my bloodwork, she said it was peri because of my age and symptoms and then she hugged me (because of course I started crying because someone finally gave me the answer). I was 48 at the time. I believe that you are in perimenopause but of course to ease your mind get your tests done. Im sure that all will be well. I will be praying for you. Take care!

Parece perimenopausa com certeza. Mas para tranquilizar sua mente, peça um ultrassom vaginal. Mas se seu exame Papanicolau estava bom há alguns meses, você está bem. Fui informada por muitos médicos que eu não estava na perimenopausa, fui ao psiquiatra como meu médico recomendou e FOI ELA quem disse que eu estou na perimenopausa com EBV comprovado. E ela estava totalmente certa! Eu adoro a maneira como esses médicos dizem que não pode ser perimenopausa. Isso me deixa tão brava.

Thanks so much for your reply... I'm so stressed at the moment!

I had an ultra scan on my ovaries at the same time as my Pap test a few months ago.. they were checking to ensure everything in that area was ok and it was.

I'm just so upset that when I quite evidently had severe health anxiety they just casually mention cancer... in fairness my own doctor would not have done this as he knows how to manage my condition.

Thank you

Olá Alice

Primeiro, acho que seu médico está um pouco estranho!

Não entendo por que ela te assustou daquele jeito! Você já tinha tudo feito há 5 meses e você é velha o suficiente para ter os primeiros sintomas de perimenopausa. Claro que seu médico está certo em verificar primeiro se tudo está bem, mas não há razão para te assustar!

Estou sangrando levemente há mais de um mês agora (tenho 51 anos), realmente fiquei muito preocupada quando vi meu ginecologista na terça-feira, mas ele não agiu como o seu!

Fiz um ultrassom vaginal e tudo estava ok, então ele fez um papanicolau (o último foi há um ano e meio) e disse para não se preocupar porque eu tinha um para fazer e era hora de fazer um novo.

Claro que o papanicolau pode mostrar algo errado (e é por isso que todas as mulheres devem fazê-lo regularmente), mas ele não aumentou minha ansiedade e disse que provavelmente estou experimentando a perimenopausa.

Seu sangramento pode ter muitas explicações que não estão relacionadas a algo ruim!

Fique calma e espere pelo resultado, mas se tudo estava bem há 5 meses, não vejo por que poderia ser ruim hoje.

Nos avise como você está se sentindo

Dear Alice, please do not worry. GPS are very ignorant to patient's need. They don't understand peri symptoms. Fir them it is all to do with one random blood test. You GP sounds even worse and insensitive. Knowing your health history they should have been kinder. But please please try not to worry. Worrying will make you worse. It sounds like you are just starting peri nothing more. Get it checked of course but try to ignore what gp said to you. All the best.

Olá

Estou passando por isso também. Meu médico me disse que não é perimenopausa e para verificar se tenho ondas de calor falsas ou secura. Ele queria que eu fizesse um teste de hormônios, ele disse que será negativo para menopausa. Também, pela primeira vez, minha menstruação foi estranha. Minha menstruação em 28 de junho durou 4 dias, depois eu deveria tê-la em 24 de julho, mas tive em 11 de julho por 6 dias e vou observar se a terei no horário certo. Meu Papanicolau foi normal, mas disse que tenho inflamação severa. E foi só isso. Já fiz vários ultrassons vaginais e abdominais e tudo está normal. Fico ansiosa pelo desconhecido.

Se o seu pâncreas apresentar inflamação grave, você não precisa de um tratamento para isso?

I would say at your age its most deff Peri.. and how a doc can say otherwise is stupid.  Like alot of people on here ive had constant syptoms for years before my periods became iregular.. About 4 years of weird aches pains burning skin gut issues etc.  My doctor did acknowledge that my hormones where about 50% there for full menpaosue when all this started 4 years ago but he didnt say i was in peri.  I got weird brownish discharge with a bit of blood for about 6 years before my periods started to miss.. Also regular upto a year ago when my periodds stopped all together for 4 months and then the heavy menopause symptoms hit like a brick wall so iw ouldnt worry.  But its always good to get things checked for your own piece of mind. Most women on here will say the same about their cycle in peri , there are few that just stop altogether.  Most it takes years of weird symptoms then they often get closer together like mine did for 18 months.. then back to 4 weekly for another 18months..then bang... stopping and starting.. 2 in 2 weeks .. then miss another moonth... drives you nuts

Hi Alice😊stress can make a lot of things worse so first of all dont stress.

I would follow up with your gyn, schedule an ultrasound and go from there.

Could be cysts, could be inflammation, could be any number of things.

We tend to think the worst with our anxiety especially when someone throws the worst at us. Think positive and try to be proactive. Have the tests done as soon as possible to put your mind at ease.

Praying for the best for you♡

Hi Alice,   First off, I doubt it's cervial cancer, for the fact that you had one a few months ago and it was normal.  Here where I live routine paps are ordered every three years.  (I don't necessarily agree with that) but from what I understand is it takes a long time for cervical cancer to grow.....Interesting you say this, because I just had my pap a couple weeks ago and since then I had streaky blood on and off, and then got my period a few days early....I too start to fear the worst, I think when our body is forever changing we fear it is something more because it is not normal, but I am learning that perimenopause, and menopause doesn't feel normal.....I have had more doctor appointments in the last year than I have in 5 years put together, and that is because I am getting all these weird symptoms.  

Exatamente! Você acabou de dizer isso! Eu verifiquei tudo e até meu intestino e agora parei minha menstruação e minha barriga está inchada e dolorida 😵 por quê? Muito desconfortável.

Vamos só conversar sobre isso aqui e compartilhar nossas experiências.

Yes,  that's all we can do.  I still always fear that there is something they are not finding......not that I want them too of course, but I never had all these weird things pop up ever.  Mine started with severe anxiety and nausa I lost 20 pounds over several months without trying, then I would get short of breath and pressure in my chest, I went to ER, and they said I was having an axiety attack and anxiety was the cause of my symptoms....(losing weight) they concluded this through routine blood, and a chest x-ray. So I started working on relieving anxiety and worked with a natural practitioner, and it helped a great deal....then after that was fixed, then I started experiencing bladder issues, frequent urinination, urethra irritation, and vag burning....again, back to the doctors, after 2 ultra sounds, and a referral to a urologist and gynocologist, many urine cultures were done....nothing found.....so again I started doing alternative healing with this, acupuncture, and chinese medicine, I got that somewhat controlled, then I started getting terrible bloating, upper back pain (shoulder blades), chest pressure, and feeling that I have a lump in my throat....so back to the doctors, they are going to be cheking my heart I am on my final day of wearing a 14 day heart monitor then I go for a heart echo...I have been getting palpatations on and off for 8 years, but now this chest pressure is new.....(it could very well be bloating) who knows, but better to get it checked out.....I started going back to my chiropractor and I have been reffered to a physiotherapist one for pelvic floor and one for lower and upper back....I just feel like my social life is running to all these places just so I can feel somewhat like I used to.  The only thing they all chalk it up to is my body is changing and preparing for a new chapter in life.  I just wish these new symptoms would stop, I get one looked after only to have something else pop up. 

Eles basicamente me disseram para verificar no próximo ano, mas estou um pouco preocupada. O exame de Papanicolau não mostrou malignidade, mas havia uma inflamação severa. A clínica que frequento não acredita na perimenopausa.

So, Pap back, all all clear... my periods have also started after weeks of spotting .... BUT they are so heavy with load more clots than ever.... is this'normal'... 😫

So, Pap back, all all clear... my periods have also started after weeks of spotting .... BUT they are so heavy with load more clots than ever.... is this'normal'... 😫

Sim. Pare de se preocupar agora!!! ❤️

Linda, eu sou você. Exceto que também sacrifiquei minha vesícula biliar este ano. Finalmente descobri que o peri causou a reativação do EBV (não agradeço aos 10 ou mais médicos que consultei). Você pode querer fazer o seu exame. Certifique-se de que o laboratório faça todos os 4 testes (3 IgG e 1 IgM). Seus sintomas são exatamente iguais aos meus, e eu desenvolvi mais.

Hi Suzanne, I will mention this to my doctor when I see her in a few weeks.  I have had a lot of blood test done over the past year, but not sure if they checked for EBV.  At times I often wondered if there was a virus laying dormant, I get this little red dots all over my skin, I have brought it up to doctors and they say they are normal, but when I read about them they say they are triggered by a virus.  I did have shingles back in the winter months, and although I got over them quickly, I often wondered if the back pain lingers from that, however I have had this on and off for years...I find when I have stress, or anxiety it seems to flare up, also in the summer months when I am not wearing the proper foot wear.  Regardless, I just keep finding ways to relieve it all until we figure out what exactly it is, my one friend said she thinks it's fibromyalgia....only because she has it and we have very similar symptoms....always a guessing game, and I tend to feel like a hypocondriac when I go to the doctors with a new complaint.......however, one would never imagine these symptoms to pop up out of nowhere.

So glad your test came back normal.

​I am going through a similar thing, with the main symptom being spotting on and off, sometimes after running or exercise. I am so scared. Just submitted my first post on here but it's awaing approval. Hope everyone is ok. This is such a stressful time. I am supposed to be on holiday but I spent my days sitting indoors and researching stuff like this. Not usually like this but I'm getting really depressed and scared