I'm quitting Mirtazapine 45mg. I've decided to suddenly stop (not recommended) . I'm aware that you can always feel worse than you can imagine despite saying ' I couldn't feel any worse' if that makes sense. mentally ill is bad, mentally ill and chemically ill may prove fatal.? Confused and scared to be honest.The NHS has failed me big time. 'professionals' have forgotton appointments, compounded my misery and left me feeling more desperate and isolated. My mental health has spiralled downhill to the point that I'm considering sending my Victorian father and mini-him sister a letter from my GP listing my past six months med records. I just wouldn't cope at my sisters wedding . My sister and father are in denial,ignorant (bliss)or just mentally lucky. My father's auto reply to any news of my physical or mental illnesses has always been ;' Probably drugs' but would be devastated to read my problems( he's been paralised in hospital for nine months with an auto immune condition called CIDP) but will be furious if I don't attend .I'm having panic attacks when I'm going up to London to see him and just can't face it now. How do I solve this dilemma? They look down their noses at me at the best of times. If you had asked me last year, 'Glyn,would you like to go into a mental home for a week,I would have said no way . Now I would say yes please.That even shocks me to write/read that. I'd love to be with like minded ,mentally ill people to at least relate to and ,to be honest,compare myself to. After pleading for help for a year I was finally offered group therapy in a place I can't get to. The closest I got to telling someone my problems was a face to face Personal Independence Payment assesment last week,no advice or feedback,just them trying to trip me up and find a reason to axe my benefits. I've gone from being a heavy cannabis self medicator to just one before bed. No side effects,drowsiness etc. I sleep like a baby but have had to stop the recreational abuse of it to give myself a chance to improve my MH. I've lost all confidence in the broken NHS,primary,secondary care teams,GPs and I'm going to go swimming every day ,use not abuse cannabis ( in my medicine cabinet not on my coffee table now) and improve my diet . I have B12 injections for pernicious anaemia through neglecting my dietry requirements and now eat lots of fruit and veg,less sugar and salt and hope I'll start absorbing vitamins and folic acid naturally.
Crikey , nobody said it was easy. Anyone have any advice or help to get my life back please let me know. I'm not sure my Mirtazapine,Lofepramine and Diazepam meds are the way forward.
I wouldn't stop all together. You will be better off slowly reducing. I tried quitting two days ago and I was a mess. Back on it for now and feel better.
Hi Glyn so sorry your feeling so sh*t I have been there were you are albeit years ago never told my mother how I was or she would've just told me to "snap out of it"
45mg sounds like a lot I've just started on 15mg and don't intend to go any higher as I feel OK.
I understand your disgust at the medical profession as a whole as my brother was bipolar and went through the system for over 25yrs he decided to stop fighting the system although compliance was not his thing he decided to go with it.
I hope you find the answers you are looking for
Wishing u all the best
Deb
Yes,that sounds like a more sensible method.Guess I need to find the right dose for me.
Hello there, I'm so sorry that you going through such a very tough time. Sending a Big hug to you. I can relate to wanting be around people that understand how you feel. I was many times ready to just give up. But I keep on getting up again. I would suggest tapering of mirtazapine slowly. I have to taper down (doctors order) because I have inflammation in my liver). But I've been on them only 3 weeks. My doc wants me to take( half15mg) for 5 days, and than stop. I'm concerned about withdraw symptoms , like insomnia, since they helped me sleep. I wish you the very best, praying you get the help you need, and that you would find a doctor who really cares. Sincerely Kornelia
Thank you.I'm going to keep on getting up too.Good plan.
Keep getting up is a great plan. Reducing Mert will definitely bring back insomnia sorry to hear you have the liver problem.
Thank you so much . I'm hoping that taking magnesium, and Valerien will help me with sleep, ones I'm of mirta.
I heard a warm bath before bed and warm milk too might help. I tried magnesium too but that didn't do too much.
I tried so many natural things to go to sleep, but at one point, about 2 years ago I took ambien, but heard they were addictive, so I stopped them. I feel for all of us who struggle with insomnia.
Hi Glyn.I'm replying from the U.S. and have good health insurance which sadly is usually a requirement for good care,although I must admit my halth care people are very helpful for the most part.I go to a counseler/therapist for talking to and a psy/doc for meds.I have IBS and anxiety/depression.I wish I could give you some advice as I have had a rough 7 months myself,but I would say try to keep on the path you are going as far as what your doing at the end of your first paragraph.I would be careful about going off the Mirt cold turkey,especially since your kind of fragile right now.I understand what your saying about people not understanding because I run into a similar situation,although I do have family members tha have similar problems,so they do understand to an extent.For me,a strong relationship with God and a belief that He has a purpose even in my suffering has helped me the most.I believe that Jesus is always with me and that this will someday be a way that leads me closer to God and my walk with Him,now and forever.Hope is the one thing to cling to along with faith and most of all,love! God Bless You,Bob
I'm currently readind a book called,"If God is Good:Faith in the Midst of Suffering and Evil."by Randy Alcorn.I'm find it to be both helpful and God intended,timely.God Bless You,Bob
I feel like you - mirtazapine, lofepramine and diazepam just to get through day.
have dropped lofepramine.
how to get better without these drugs is my quest. Need my life back too.
wondering if i need B12 and folic acid might help?
do you get very frightening nightmares every morning, i wonder if its the mirtazapine? Or maybe just me.
some days just so depressed about it all not working.
any ofmthis resonate with you.
I'm getting vivid dreams/nightmares in the pre waking moments ,although they feel epically long. I may keep the Diazepam despite the dependancy issues just to break my thought patterns when I'm having a crisis. You should have a blood test.If you don't ask...
I'm sure GPs are almost giving us what we want rather than what we need. I wonder if Lofep mixed with Mirt is messing with our brains. This is my first week off Lofep. I've never been convinced by the Holistic approach but ,through desperation I'm going to try doing excersise,probably swimming and CBT therapy. Tackling my issues head on and putting myself in 'threatening' situations to try to awaken defense mechanisms naturally. Going to be tough and could go either way. Yoga? meditation...Got to try something different. Best wishes.Glyn
Hi Glyn I have also been having very vivid dreams no nightmares up to now only on 15mg mirtazapine. Was also on citalopram (tapered off after 2 weeks) after 2 days started to get up in morning with pounding headache and feeling rough- quite low no motivation so went back on just 10mg citalopram feeling a bit better.
Talking of hostilics I have been having reiki and was so impressed I trained myself and am now a practitioner. Worth a try if you can find someone in your area who practices in it.
Take care glyn
When you have the vivid nightmares how do you manage to feel ok at wakening. I feel awful, they go but i am left depressed by them as they are usually about my old life with friends and doing all the things i cant now. I am not having success with cbt or anxiety audios. I feel terrible all the time and everything makes me frightened, even a trip to shops. How do i get better
Hi Robert, I like what you wrote. I cling to God each day, and praying something good will come out of my struggles. I have had days I felt hopeless because of ongoing stomache issues and because of side effects of mirtazapine. But I pick myself up again and again. I have a notebook by my bed. Every morning, I write down 3 things I'm thankful for, no matter how I feel. Wishing you the best. God bless you.
Hi Ann, I feel for you. I don't get anxoius going to the store, but get anxoius once my hubby leaves for work. I decided lately to sing out loud. It's a song we sing at my church. I know I should have no reason to be anxoius, but the feelings are so overwhelming. Speaking out loud to myself is helping a bit too. I tell myself; you are just fine, even if you feel lonely, you never truly alone. I hope you feel better soon Ann, hugs to you. Oh one more thing, I have gotten nightmares too on mirtazapine, but soonest I wake up I remind myself, it was only a bad dream.
Hi Kornelia,That's amazing(but not really) about writing 3 things every morning! I do the same thing! I heard or read about it about a month or two ago and have been doing it ever since.It's no coincidence that we both do it.As we say in the men's prayer group,"there are no such thing as coincidences,just God Moments!" And what I mean about it not be amazing is that with God this happens all the time.I to have those hopeless days or parts of days(like yesterday) but the Lord keeps me plugging away toward that goal when we all go home.Keep picking yourself up and God Bless You.Bob
Thank you Bob. I just got a phone call from my doc, have to stop mirta at once..my liver test came back high. So no more mirta and have to stop cold turkey. Prayers please. Thank you.