More important than the supplements is the withdrawal plan and their ebook
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Hi all,
I've been reading the mirt wd posts on this forum looking for answers how to get off this nasty drug ,safely and soon.
Briefly,I've been fortunate to be mostly healthy most of my life,
and avoided getting in the "system" of dr.s and pharma meds..
One year ago,I was a healthy lad.
Then life came along,big stress,not sleeping, and the brilliant dr.s started me on benzo's..nada help...trazadone,made it worse, tachacardia side effects.,so I weened off that...months of taking this trash, and little relief...took a huge toll physically,appearance,and emotionally.
Since early July, I've been on 30mg of mirt ED.
It has helped with sleep, but the trade off of the side effects are just intolerable;
tiredness,angy outbursts,over sleeping,brain fog ,morning sweats,paranoia even.
This is NOT me!
After reading the torture some of you have/are going through withdrawing
from mirt and my experience with the sides,
I want off this drug safely, while it's still early at two and a half months.
I had GP dispense a new rx for 15mg daily tabs,
so I could have the ability to ween in increments.
My impression from reading your experiences is that even at this early stage,
it may not be that simple.?
I'll keep reading and learning from all of you,and I'm asking for any guidance you may have...I am trying to curb my anger at these dr.s for
Prescribing drugs they don't even understand how they work,
and also how much this has impacted my life...
I promise my reply's will be shorter than this initial post.
May blessings of newfound health and healing be given to you all.
Thank you
I wonder....How was changing to oral solution? Some people do not suggest it due to its different metabolization...
Hi Manuel
I broke the pills down from 15mg to 7.5mg got a pill cutter & got down to quarters, then nothing you can do but get liquid as the pharmaceutical companies don't make smaller pills so you can easily cut down. I'm sure they just make it harder for anyone to try to come off these wretched pills & the liquid version is very expensive so doctors are reluctant to prescribe it for long.
I think the medical profession & us patients should put more pressure on these multi billion dollar pharmaceutical companies to actually research into how to get people off these antidepressants & SSRI's safely and at least make the pills in small amounts so you can ween off gradually .... But of course that's not in their interest is it!
Let us know how you get on, best of luck
Pat
They make it difficult. May be I'm ging to file a lawsuit against the german company that produces Mirtazapine (I'm an italian who lives in Germany) Unless they come back to me with a pill I can easily divide into 10 parts. Looking like a junky trying to cut the pill in tiny proportions in front of my wife is not something nice. They gave me this thing to help me sleep. And it helped, but I want to get off it because of its side effects. I could never imagine I coul feel so tired and spaced out. Im also thinking that as soon as I'm out of this situation I'm going to make a movie about it, since I'm also a film director. Just to raise some awareness, people cannot suffer like this.
Good idea Manuel, we need to raise awareness of this problem, lobby the politicians, government has to do something, doctors need to be more careful just handing these pills out, it's all about keeping us hooked on medication, trapped forever taking pills we can't get off of easily. It's just making these companies rich, the suffering people go through trying to break free of these drugs is terrible. I often wonder when I hear of a suicide or violent attack on someone how many of these people were on these mind drugs, they just seem to make any problem or obsession you had before10 times worse, not better.
Manuel same thing here.My GP gave it to me for sleep,and the sides you mentioned are just draining and complicate your ability to function properly.
The Dr.s are playing with our lives here,it's absurd and really an abuse of power.I've only been on mirt for under 3 mos..,I just started the ween from 30mg,and taking as many cues as I can from people like yourself that are trying to get clear of this miserable drug.I wish your success in this and your health.
Jumping from 30 to 15 does not seem difficult. You have to be careful from 10mg downwards.
Hi Kathryn,
Thank you for your post. It has been a great help.
Thank you Kathryn, although the post was a while ago it's very relevant and contains some encouraging advice. I'm on the road, taking a quarter of a tablet and when I reduce further I will use the syringe method which worked for me before. (I was Mirtazapine free for three years).
My GP wouldn't give me the liquid form so I dissolved a tablet in water and sucked up increasingly smaller amounts.
I'll refer to your post for a plan of action.
Hi Norma
how is it going? Are you feeling any better? I'm thinking if you!💜💛🌺💜🐭😘🌷
Hi Tracy.
ive had your problem as well. Go to 15 mg remeron / mirtazapine and slowly go off the benzo...as directed by CITA.
Comtinue with the mirt another six months ....but the point is to get stable. No switching on the mirt. Stay at the comfortable spot. Can't do two drugs at once, way to hard on the body💜💙💚
Dear Kathryn,
I'm currently living in my father's house in the woods as I've been debilitated by the fact that I tried to get off my meds' final dose (Lexapro). Then I got back on a 1/4 dose which was all my gut coul handle (gave me diarrhea and incontinence 2 years into using it and it also stopped working properly).
My psychatrists tried Cymbalta which I had to quit after 10 days as it was driving me nuts. Then I suggested Remeron to him which he agreed to. After 6 weeks of that, it was apparent that all it did was knock me out.
So, he got me to taper from 45mg to 30mg in 4 days, 30mg to 22.5 for 2 days and finally 22.5mg to 15mg which is where I went loopy for the following 5 days - not able to sit still, very nervous, etc. I panicked and went back up to 30mg (against your advice, I know) and am now looking at how to taper.
My father's going to our pharmacist tomorrow who is preparing a Remeron solution from crushed tablets in 2mg and 3mg capsules. I want to get off this crap as quickly as possible but also realise that keeping an even pace is important.
My starting plan is (once I've stablisied on the 30mg which for some reason is causing sleep disturbance) to take 3/4 of my 30mg tablet, making it 22.5mg along with two 2mg capsules, bringing the total to 26.5mg (this will be roughly a 10% reduction of the current 30mg dose) for a week. For every week following that, I plan to reduce by 3mg until either I notice some discomfort or hit the 15mg dose where I plan to reduce by 2mg.
Do you think this a solid plan? Do you think it may be too slow or fast at any point? Are there any suggestions you wish to provide? I'm pretty terrified of your heroin analogy and hope it isn't that bad for me as I've already been hanging by a thread for a long time.
Thanks in advance,
Baret
Yes its hard comming off mirt I have been back on it for 3 weeks at 7.5 I hate hate hate this drug im biting the bullet and cutting the 7.5 in half tonite for 1 week then get off ny 10th of june it makes me crazy im on a low doze of seroqual so I hope that helps me once om off mirtazipine then I can dropp off seroqual ...but if seroqual goes ok I my stay with that but never again remeron its so deadly anziety anziety crashes you dont go on it long term and get off it like me I know im doing it quickly but I wont have muscles ach joint psin gastro problem just to name a few
I hope your successful
Regatds tracy message me any time
I have been very slowly reducing my dose of Mirtazapine from 15mg since January 2014.
Jan. I reduced to 3/4
March, 1/2
June, 1/4
Had a setback in August and increased to 1/2 again.
September, back to 1/4
Stayed on this (3.75mg) 'till Feb 2015 when I reduced by dissolving a 15mg tablet in 15ml of water and sucking up 3ml in a syringe, giving myself a 3mg dose.
Stayed on this for five weeks. No ill effects so reduced to 2mg.
After five weeks reduced to 1.5mg in April
Got cocky and reduced to 1mg after only two weeks at start of May and after two weeks stopped altogether.
BUT that was rushing it; believe it or not I had nasty withdrawal not helped by just getting over 'flu.
So...I'm back to 1mg and taking it gently.
Patience and being gentle with yourself are the keys.
Best wishes.
Hi Katherine,
I have been looking for information on excactly what you have written about , im new to posts and wondered if you were still around to have a chat with as i see yours is over a year ago now . I am on 7.5 mg Mirtazipine and the doctor has given me the liquid form. I went to purchase the book you spoke about but it appears that the website cita has closed down and wondered if you knew of anywhere i could get one . Thank you
Jane :-)
I believe that CITA are now CITAp, they come up when I google them, full name is Council for Information on Tranquillisers, Antidepressants, and Painkillers, they still seem to offer the Back to Life booklet
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Thank you Tina , I have replied but it had not shown up ? Anyway yes I have ordered the book :-)
Jane
Guys, I have a vital question to ask as the shrinks don't seem to be able to give me a straight answer: if you take Mirtazapine to a compound chemist and have him make smaller denomination capsules (eg. 4mg, 3mg, 1mg, etc), does the process of crushing change the pharmakodynamics of the drug? In other words, does the process make the drug lose effectiveness? Thank you.