Hey All,
Thought i'd share an update on my withdrawal from Mirtazapine. I have managed to get to 17 days on a dose of 7.5mg and although ive made it here, the last few days have become just too much. I ended up at the doctors today and explained that the withdrawals now are becoming so severe they are affecting my well being. I have been given Fluoxetine to use as the prozac bridge. The doctor did tell me that really i should have had this when i made the drop to 7.5mg. Typical when you see different doctors with different opinions.Anyway its 7.5mg of Mirt tonight and 20mg of Prozac in the morning. I'm just praying that this will do the trick as I am pleased i have got this far but can't go no further without help...Having had such a bad day today i said to the doctor that i'm tempted to up the dose of the mirt temporarily to ease my suffering, but he replied although i cant tell you not too i would advise against it, as he said you will just add fuel to the flames. He explained that the withdrawals are what make people give in to coming off, and many people stay on a drug that is no longer benefitting them as they can't face the withdrawals..Anyway wish me luck please and will post or private message my progress to anyone who feels it might help...
Hi Craig
How long have you need WD for? I took 7 months WD from 15mg, it's been 9 weeks since my last pill about 2mg and I am starting to feel better.
I have heard Prozac is hard to come off too and you will have the side effects starting it too!!!
Just my thoughts!!
Cheers
Hang in there mate
How long was you on mirt for and at what dose ?
I've been in 45mg for last 8 months, I started my withdrawal 2 weeks ago, I took 40mg for 7 days and I'm now on 35mg, no real side affects as of yet.
I felt like sh*t on them and feel like sh*t now, so I have to keep reminding myself that I felt like sh*t before and not to think it's side affects of coming of the mirt.
I found that ever since I have been upped to 45mg my anxiety peaked.
Anyone have this ?
Would love to hear your thoughts.
We Will all be better one day.
Hi, ive been on mirt for nearly 4 years and although it helped my depression i had too many other symtoms from it. I have tried twice to come off and crashed and burned both times. This time i reduced over 2 months but the withdrawals had increased severely the lower i have got. I have tried other anti d's and know the start up effects can be uncomfortable, but in my opinion the withdrawals have become unbearable. Prozac withdrawals are nowhere near as severe because of its long half life....I have no idea if it will work until i try it unfortunately but insanity is doing the same thing everyday and expecting things to change.....
Good luck craig !!! I have been suffering for 7 months with severe anxiety and depression. I was put on lyrica and citalopram first but they changed the citalopram for mirt last march. It worked ok at first but lately it has been a struggle again. I never seemed to be able to get rid of the extreme fatigue. lately i have been feeling really numb like a zombie. Hard to enjoy things from walking the dog or watching tv etc...even eating !!! Anxiety has creeped up with a vengance as well. So now i have been orescribed prozac as well...been told it should help with my tiredness and mood. Started yesterday. Hope it will help !! Seems a lot of meds to me....30mg mirt..20 prozac and 75mg 3 times a day of lyrica. Pffffffffffff
Let me know how it goes with the prozac !!!
Good luck to you too, I hope it does the trick, I'm praying it works for me as well as I need a break from the withdrawals all the best
Thinking of you Craig, hang on in there. Thinking going slow from here on in will help you. Rose actually advised (and boy is she wise about the Mirt' wd malarky !) that once down to 7.5 mg to stay on it for 6 months, and then half of that for 6 months. Just saying, hoping that anyone super sensitive (and aren't we all on this stuff) can be kinder to themselves.
All the best, PLEASE DO keep up the wd blog.
Hi Mathew, i was on them for 4 years. They did lift my depression but then they turned on me and my anxiety started to climb along with a hangover effect everyday. I went up to 45mg on them but found the drops down to 15mg not too bad, it was lowering on that when the withdrawals become unbearable. Keep going and take your time mate, and good luck
How you getting on.. only cause i feel even more tired now. More anxious and today spaced out and very uncomfetable.thats on mirt 30 mg and prozac 10mg.
oh and the lyrica 75mg 3 times a day.
Hello my friend, sorry to hear your feeling like that. I have been a little better today than yesterday. I have had a bit of a headache all day but still able to function. I had to reduce down on the mirt first before i started the prozac, as like i said the mirt was giving me all the problems and i think had i took prozac then, it might have added to them. I am hoping to drop the mirt eventually and hoping the prozac will take over. Not really sure why your doctor has added in the prozac for you when you are still on quite a high dose of mirt. Mirt has a sedating element with it, where prozac has an activating element. I wanted to get away from the sedating effect as it was lasting all day until the evening when it wore off.I would have thought taking both would counteract with each other surely, but then i'm not a doctor. I don't have any suggestions for you as i think each case is different. All i know is i wanted off the mirt as it never really agreed with me, and i finally realised i couldnt come off them unaided.. I would maybe give it a little more time and see how you go. I've been told that the prozac will reach its full plazma levels (whatever that means) at 2 weeks, so i need to hang on in there till then
Cheers craig. Will defenately try to hang in there . It deffenately feels like theres a battle going on in my brain. Cant concentrate at all.
take care. Let me know how it continued plz
Hey my friend, this is my third day of Prozac and feeling rotten today, my heads really headachy and spaced out, not a happy chap at the minute, I'm worried that the 20mg dose should have been 10mg as that's where they are supposed to start us all
I am on day 4 and on 10mg. Gotta go to 20mg in 6 days. Have had a rough 3 days. Full head mind racing and still very fatigued like before. have to realy force myself to do stuff which at least i do. Than i also get 5hat spaced out feel8ng like as if its not me...horrible. lets keep the faith and hang in there my friend !!!
I know where your coming from about the spaced out feeling,bloody awful. I'm just hoping for a few easier days as today has been awful. I perked up in the afternoon after a dreadful morning and now it's coming back at me, let's hope it gets easier for us soon mate
Not a good day today, i have the start up side effects of the prozac which are uncomfortable to say the least, and when i make it to the evening i have the withdrawals of the mirt. All in all a nightmare for me. However although its all unconfortable and at some points quite frightening as the ill feeling becomes a little overwheleming, I fully understand whats going on and that helps a little. I know the prozac side effects will eventually wear off, and i should start feeling a little better. When i reach this point( anyone have a fast forward) i then have to reduce the mirt using the following method. Crush my quarter of a tablet up into powder form and add it to 100ml of warm water. Then drink 3/4 of it and throw the rest. Do this for a week and see how i feel, if ok, do the same and drink half for another week, then a quarter then stop.I was also told that this method is good for relieving withdrawals if you miss a tablet or take it too late, as it enters the system quicker...Will keep posting as the days past and hope that eventually i right some nice positive ones, to all of you withdawing my thoughts are with you
Hi Craig I have read about the Prozac bridge and yet I haven't read any success stories so far with mirt.
In theory it makes more sense and is much easier to withdraw from Prozac so it might be worth a try
On the other hand from experience my doctor tried the bridge and it was a complete flop but I do think it could work personally I like the benzo bridge and although it too is addictive. it's a far less complex drug in your brain will thank you for that.
Even the makers of these antidepressants don't always understand them completely
Would it be possible for you to stay at 7.5 or are side effects making that impossible for you?
One stable on 7.5 and then dropped to 3.75 then introduce the SSRI if you are stable on the 3.75
While still using the benzo bridge.
Then I would just continue with the very small dose of mirtazapine and the Prozac
Stabilize again drop the benzo in fact a lot of doctors don't know but mirtazapine is used as a drug to be able to drop opiates and benzo, possibly the best drug to use to drop opiates benzo'
But then again it's back to square one trying to get off the mirtazapine!!
Catch 22
So it may be a slow process but it sure might be a lot less painful and maybe not painful at all. So in a roundabout way getting to 3.75 going with the Prozac or Lexapro jointly.
If this works then I would stay on it indefinitely and after year or so if the Mirtazapine is a problem to you then I Would try the drop
I hope this helps in anyway possible it's a long route but it may be the least painful route because mirtazapine does not cause withdrawal symptoms for 2 to 3 weeks after the last pill
Just some thoughts on it some options keep researching keep reading blogs and threads
Good luck and good health
Hello rose, firstly let me thankyou for taking the time to reply, I can't thank you enough for the support. I have got to just over 3 weeks on the 7.5 but the withdrawal has been hell, I'm trying to use the Prozac in the hope it might lift me enough to continue. I am constantly questioning whether I should up the mirt to 15mg in the hope that it might just eliminate some of the withdrawals and then maybe reduce a little slower, it's all guess work though it feels. Wishing you well and sending a hug
How's your day been my friend, I had a pretty good morning which quickly went down hill this afternoon with headache and a general rough feeling, why the morning couldn't have dragged out all day, best wishes Craig
Let me see if I've got this right you are on 7.5 of the mirt right now but nothing else?
What are your symptoms worse to least?
Some people don't get anxiety in Mirt WD
I think it would help if you listed them in chronological order as to what you're feeling number one what the worst thing whether it's a headache stomachache ior depersonalization or all the other symptoms that we know about and even the ones we don't know about
Yes I do think going back to 15 is an ok idea though you want to get off them the most important thing is to get stable first
So go back to 15 it's not a large dose to get stable from there
Once you get stable that's when you make your plan but I don't think you can make a plan when you're not stable it doesn't work that way with Mirt it's impossible almost so let's say you go back to 15. See I don't know if you've already introduce Prozac into the mix of not?
Then when you feel good not great and good at 15 you make your list of symptoms and then you said about your plan of going off because you're going to need weapons to go off you can't just go off unarmed. Many people have tried that and they lost
A private message my email address in there because I don't come on the site that often and I'm afraid I might miss your post but I won't miss an email directly so if you'd like to do that there's an option there and maybe I can help you go from 15 good luck and good health to you
Will send my email later tonight I love my phone and can't access your mailbox from my phone