does anyone find that the mornings are more hellish than the later times. I am back on the venlafaxine having tried to come off . I take my meds in the morning and am starting to feel better in the days (still hard ) But can start to see some improvement. But the mornings are hell. Is that because of when I take the meds or because that is the last thing to improve. Any experiences?
I'm the same be interesting to get feed back
Oh god how long have you been on them?
My mornings are awful too. I take ven morning and night. What is your dosage? Perhaps you can halve them and take morning and night. Ask your doctor first though.
Am on 75mg.the slow release capsule. If your mornings are bad it's likely the nature of the anxiety. At the moment being faced with anything I have to do (even going for counselling) is a nightmare and in between the anxiety bubbles away. How long have you been on them?
Yes, I know how you feel. Anxiety when waking up and the thought of having to go somewhere is stressful. Some mornings I get very fearful and frightened.
Do you have any tips?
I just tell myself that there is nothing to fear except fear itself and just think of a nice cup of tea!
You make it sound so easy. I can't function at the mo and I know only I can help me but even indoors I'm not controlling it. Constant back to back physical panicks !!
Hi been on them bout 6 months now for anxiety and panic attacks I'm up to 225 mg
Hi Valerie, even though you have been on venlafaxine before it still can take up to 4 weeks before the full benefit is felt. As for feeling bad in the mornings I always too my meds before I went to sleep so that when I wake up they are fully licking in you might find this a better pattern. Best regards
It took a while to find the correct balance for me
I was put on 300mg. 7m x 4 a day, 150 x 2 a day. 300 x 1 day. 150 then 2 x 75.
Now I take themn first thing in the morning I am ok. Still have times when I think it has worn off within hours of taking them.
To be honest I think it is cos they need time to build up in your system again. That's the thing with these buggers. No two people are the same. Like our other discussions one person has this, the other has that. No one has one thing and that person has the other.
I had an engagement breakup and immediately went to the medical centre. Jul 2011.. was pushed onto and continued to be on 150 - 175 since then. Tried several stealth reductions since then with no real positive effects.
I found mornings were tiring. One reason is I was consistantly getting late at night so I had no energy the next day. Sleep deprevation has been one common issue during the medication period.
I found the last three days that I've gone for a rest, woke up in darkness only to realise that I didn't have my eyes open 
BTW we've just had a long weekend here in NSW Aussie, so I took 3 extra days off and I just stopped taking the tablets last monday - 29th. No special event.. just stopped.
I just re-described the effect another way to a co-worker as driving a car without headlights, and now using the lights. I'm much more aware of what is around me.
I discussed the changes with some people at work, when I got back - [ Personal choice, vs what affect I have / going to have on my work collegues? (human rights?) ]
I now feel that although I'm a bit overreactive emotion-wise, It was FAR better for me to hit myself hard once by a 2by4 than try the 175-175, 150-175, 150-150, 125-150 etc etc run that I previously tried to do. I felt that I was getting hit less, but over a much longer period.
SO day 10 is looking very positive for me and I haven't needed to stop drinking Cola yet!!
Hi Valerie,
well im just about to share your experience I'm sure as after reducing my Venlafaxine over the last 6 months and then changing onto trazadone 3 weeks ago, I am going to start back on the Venlafaxine tomorrow. It has been a horrendous time literally and had the psych nurse visiting me twice a week. I am under no illusions of how much worse it could get and my past experience reminds me that the mornings (diurnal
variation) are always the worst. What dosage are you starting back on? I will initially be taking 75mg and building up to 300mg again. I hope things improve for you, these are difficult times,
Kind regards, Susan.
yes mornings always worse for me, always. I have come off Venlafaxine after 20 years on anti depressants. Took me months to come off as I did not want any withdrawal symptoms. Been just over a year now. My mornings still not too good though as I have mild anxiety, but depression only there in the background now. I tried taking my medication at different times, but it did not make any difference to me.
How are you on day 12?
How long have you been off them now?
Seriously, feel REALLY positive, I note only two interesting things.
1. have had some mough ulcers that have been around for @6 days
2. The brain zaps are almost nothing at the moment.. I only get the zaps when I'm running out of energy, or I didn't have enough sleep.
Now maybe my mild reaction is
I'm trying to think if I have a different circumstance re: depression, in that I'm depressed remembering bad stuff all the time. "Why did you do that idiot thing?"
However since the breakup recovery showed
Prefer the below description..
(Reply In best Goon Show speak.)
Day 12, Got up, fell over.
Metallic taste in mouth - remove spoon from mouth. Tell myself not to fall asleep while eating breakfast.
Not looking forward to Day 13 ... 13 is bad luck man.
Man I hate it when I accidently press TAB and it sends the post :P
I'm trying to analyse if I have a different circumstance re: depression, in that I'm depressed remembering bad stuff all the time. "Why did you do that idiot thing?"
That may be different and a "lighter effect" from what you guys are going thru, however I have definitely had suicide issues, and they talk about have you got a plan, and I can say yes.
*However* since the breakup recovery showed I could get over the 'worst circumstance' then I'm actually taking on more positive images.
This is really good as the bad stuff is becoming minorised, instead of being the major thoughts.
~~~
Positive-wise,
I've mentined K-Pop before and I'm sure there are others, but last night I looked at a youtube where an 8 member group tried to dance to parts of their own songs played randomly. They had to try to remember which verse the music came from, which dance was used, and where they stood, and they hadn't danced to some of them since years ago. As soon as they got setup for a song, the music changed.
They got themselves in so much of a muddle, the MCs had to stop the music and try 3 at a time, and even then it didn't work but it was good, clean happy fun and it was great to see some people so hysterical with real laughter they were collapsed on the floor. Felt really happy after that.
I think it is a symptom of depression/anxiety with alot of sufferers that it is always worse in the mornings. I've been battling for years and it hasn't really changed. I was on twice daily 75mg venlafaxine (can't take more) and as I had side effects my pdoc wanted me to cut down. Within a week of taking 75mgs mornings and 37.50mgs evenings the pain in my legs (felt like a cross between nettles and barbed wire) was nearly over. I have arthritis and the docs. said it was that causing the problem. Bliss to be able to walk to the end of the road again. I tried twice daily 37.50mgs but don't think that is enough so I'm sticking to this dose and hope to be able to start light treatment within a couple of weeks.
I hope your mornings improve but I suppose late afternoons and evenings are better than nothing.
take care
SWx