One week using "Wet Ones" with Benzethonium Chloride

Eye care
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Hi Lynda

Thanks for your post.....yes....Golden Years not exactly applicable LOL

You need to be brave to go old.!!!

As for my hip replacement.....not doing too badly......I'm one of those people even though

not very mobile cannot stay in the house.

I'm an arthritis care volunteer.......I am on various committees at church......go out for coffee

frequently so this hip replacement hit me hard.

I've already had one and it was OK.......this one has been awful but I have a mobility scooter which was in the back of the garage....never used so that came out so even though I had a tHR and a fracture I didn't stay in.....Hubby put it in the back of the car would drop me somewhere and off I would scoot {crutches on the back of it LOL} so I'm lucky in that respect.

Just finished the awful 6 weeks so am concentrating on on the fracture now and a pulled muscle I my side from last Fri where I had to go for a scan and they shoved and pushed me

around a lot.

Sorry......gone off topic

That sounds optimistic about your old lady {every one is old to me even though I'm 67 LOL}

I'll keep trying it.....they are very red/black under the eyes as well.....always did have dark

shadows under my eyes and used concealer but they are worse now and a reddish colour now. I need reading glasses but not distances glasses but I'm using ones with pain glass in them as a sort of disguise !!!

I'm an Avon rep and must look closer but cant see anything in the brochure {UK} with those ingredients.

I'll keep trying and then come Wed......will go to the hospital.....{Its only Mon 7.40am here} and see what he says.

Thanks again

Eileen

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Hi Lynda,

Thanks for all your good help. I ended up finding a product from Boots called Blephasol which helped massively. It reduced the symptoms right down and I actually forget now that I have it. Though I noticed the symptoms start to appear after I stare at the computer screen for too long. I have a theory that it's my excessive amount of time I spend on the computer that might have given me Blepharitis, as my eyes get dry and sore after too much time and that's when it flare's up.

Does this happen to you at all?

Also my house has a bad condensation, which apparently is a breeding ground for mould and bacteria. And within the first week of moving is when I started getting Blepharitis, I had never even heard of it before. Just wondered if you or anyone reading as had an similar experience with this?

Also what was your friends routine in using the avon scrub, did she just wash her eyes with it morning and night?

Sorry for all the questions!

Thanks

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Dear acet,

Honjon had the same problem with the TV and computer as you do. He said he does not have it any longer.

I googled that medicine and it can help the symptoms but does not kill it. It is bacterial. That is why the Wet Ones worked. The Avon Facial Scrub was an antibacterial one.

They do not make that facial scrub with Benzethonium Chloride in it any longer. Honjon used another hand wipe that had Benzalkonium Chloride in them. They worked to kill it too. These are ammonium salts or compounds and they have an antimicrobial effect. It kills the bacteria.

Please read all his posts as sounds a lot like your problems. He went down really fast in the amount of times he did it each day and he is doing good.

Hope this helps you.

Lynda79

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Hi lynda,

Is this the scrub that your friend used?

This one also has Benzethonium Chloride in it, so I'm hoping this will do the trick as Benzalkonium didn't seem to work too well.

Thanks

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Acet19, what's the name if the scrub you're linking to? I tried the deep pore one I mentioned earlier in this thread and it did nothing for my eyes. I'm still looking for another option because I had a reaction to the lanolin in the wet ones.

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Dear Eric,

You can go to the chemist (drugstore) and ask them to help with a product with Benzethonium Chloride in it. You can google and ask what products have Benzethonium Chloride in them too.

I found that the makeup products were reformulated with an aspirin ingredient.

I will look around too.

Lynda 79

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I am really intrigued by thus post but want to know how you apply the wet ones to your eye lids(lashline) do u close your eyes to do the top lid or do you do something else?

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Dear Adrian,

I kept my eyes open for the bottom one and rubbed on and above the lashes. The top I rubbed upwards and then closed my eyes and rubbed on top too.

Just make sure you are not allergic to shampoos or detergents or fabric softners, etc. Some 16.5% of 959 people are allergic to ammonium salts or compounds.

This does take a while but starts to work right away. Google the Benzethonium Chloride and you will see how it works. Honjon used another wipe sold in the UK and that ammonium salt or compound worked too.

They use these in medicines for the eye too. The problem is they put it in the eye and it should be put on the lashes to kill it. I even told one doctor that and he said some gets on the lashes.

It did take me several months to kill it.

Hope this information helps you.

Lynda 79

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Hi there, my procedure is as follows:-

1) cut wet wipe into 4 pieces.Repack 3 pieces.Cut 1/4 wet wipe into 2.

2) Using 1/8 wet wipe, use 1st corner as follows.

3) While looking in (magnifying) mirror pull up top eyelid and wipe inside lashline two or three times including just inside edge of eyelid, but taking care not to wipe eye surface!!

Then close eye and wipe across and away from outside of top eyelash line two or three times.

Use 2nd corner of wet wipe as above on bottom eyelid.

Use 3rd corner of wet wipe as above on same top eyelid

use 4th quarterof wet wipe as above on same bottom eyelid

Finish with wipe around eye area including eyebrows.

4) Repeat for other eye using other 1/8 wet wipe.

Hope this makes sense...

The whole procedure takes about 5 mins and costs less tha 1/2 penny (UK).

Hope this helps and thanks once again to Lynda 79 for providing the help and information for this.

Regards Honjon

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Hi

My only problem is that my eyes seem to go even redder when I use wet ones!!!

Also very dry under the eye and on the eyelid. So I'm still {3 yrs on going to the hospital} at the moment its antibiotics {oral} gradually they are getting worse.

Useless up here in the North East as far as eyes are concerned. The only diagnosis I've

got in that time is Blepharitis/dry eye/and "more going on in there"???? What the heck does that mean.

Give me a diagnosis {even if its chronic} and I'll cope but without a diagnosis I'm floundering

Sorry lol Didn't mean to moan

I'm so frustrated.......I think its about 5 weeks until my next appointment

Eileen

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Dear Eileen,

The Drs can give you a perscription with some Benzalkonium Chloride. Put it on the eyelashes and outside eye rims. The perscription will have a lesser amount in it as it goes in the eye. People on the site have mentioined it.

The wipes are .03%. Perhaps that will help you as at a lower dose. If not I sent you a message about an antibioitic to perhaps you might want to try on the eye area (on lashes and rim).

Talk to your Dr. about it as I would try as want to get rid of it if I could not use the wipes.

These are just several options to talk to your Dr. about.

Sorry you are having such a terrible time with this.

Thinking of you,

Lynda79

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Hi Lynda

Read your pm first.........so I've answered that.

I will also check with the GP but he isn't happy about interfering when I'm going to the eye

hospital for treatment

and as for him.......

He knows what he is doing {he thinks!!} and will not be told other wise.!!!!!!!!

I mentioned my hip replacement to you originally and then the fracture in the bone beside

the hip ages ago I think.....that's another reason I'm so "down" I'm worse than I was before the op.......so the eyes on top of everything!!!!!!!! Last straw!!!

Eileen

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Dear Eileen,

What are they doing for your fracture? It takes a year or more to get back to normal with the hip even if there is not a fracture. I am going by my husband's hip. He is doing great now. So give it time. Concentrate on things you can do for yourself.

If you get desperate enough you have Doxycycline pills and can dilute them see if they work on a tiny part of the lash. That would be the last resort to try.

Try all the Dr's first and see if they can see the logic of it.

Hope you get some relief soon as I know you are miserable. My Mom had her female part taken out and the Dr. said she was good at 6 weeks. A nurse told her it would be a year and it was. There is more to healing then stitches looking great and walking. Normal took a year.

Sometimes it helps to read and be taken away from reality. Try books on CD from the Library if your eyes hurt.

Thinking of you and wishing you help soon.

Lynda79

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Hi Lynda

Just answered your pm

My fracture .......there is nothing they can do for it is what I was told.

I had a hip replacement 4 years ago and was in hospital for 3 days {same as this time} had the 6 weeks restrictions ....After that I wasn't bad......I have kyphoscoliosis {C shaped curve in my spine} and that was getting worse gradually but nothing to do with the hip replacement. You know what arthritis is like...degenerative. But I knew what was wrong and was coping.

Driving, volunteering, on committees, out for coffees with friends etc

This hip replacement was OK for the first 4 weeks of recovery and then this fracture.

Went in by ambulance on Sunday and was out on Tuesday. Strong Pain Killers and "nothing we can do about it. It will heal itself" It will take a long time.....eventually someone said another 6 weeks.???? That could have been to shut me up I'm 4 weeks into that extra 6 weeks. Can hobble about on one crutch at home but outside I need 2 and cant walk far with those.

I have tried to walk inside {where there is furniture about} without anything and I "lurch" is the only way I can describe it.

I'm still sleeping on my back which for me is awful. 6 weeks and now another 4 weeks up to now. The one good thing is I have an appointment with the physiotherapist on Tuesday. I've been seeing him for a long time but this is the first since the fracture. I do trust him so we'll see what he says. I then have to see the orthopaedic consultant the following week. So I'm thinking about those 2 dates.

My little car is sitting there doing nothing I really relied on it with not being able to walk far at least I could drive......Don't think I could now because of my eyes {for a while anyway}

Sorry for the moan

What did your husband have done to his hip?

As for the eyes....I've answered on the pm.

Eileen

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Hi Lynda

I have been following the various suggestions regarding treatment for Blephlaritis as I suffer with it.

I have tried to find a source for wipes which contain Benzothorium Chloride. Neither the chemists in Majorca or the Uk have been able to help. I did read one article which stated one should not let B C near eyes. Maybe it was due to the concentration strength. I would dearly wish to try the wipes as they appear to have been successful.

James77128

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Dar James,

On one of the sites someone posted a patent it was 1966 Patient US 3236730. I looked it up and copied it.

They used ammonium salts or compounds back then in the eye. The dose was smaller but it went in the eye.

I looked up the International Journal of Toxicology on the Safety Assessment of Benzethonium Chloride and Methylbenzethonium Chloride. This is the last two sentences.

"In clinical studies, Benzthonium Chloride produced mild sin irritatioin at 5 per cent but not at lower concentratioin. Neither ingredient is considered to be a sensitizer.

It is concluded that bothcompounds are safe at concentrations of 0.05 per cent in cosmetics applied to the skin. A maximum concentration of 0.02 per cent is safe for csmetics used in the eye area."

The wipes are 0.03 per cent. The patent's medicine went in the eye. The problem is on the outside of the eye and the eyelashes.

Now for people who are allergic to detergents, hand wipes, shampoo and fabric softners or sheets should not use these. That is about 16.5 per cent of every 959 people. There is also lanolin in the wipes and some people are allergic to that.

My friend used a facial scrub and it worked (no longer made with Benzethonium Chloride). I was desperate and found something else with it in it. My brother just came over and he said he used it for his crusty stuff on his eye (I told his wife about it) and it worked for him. I use it on someone in a rest home to keep the yellow gunk under control. I only use it 2 times a week and it is doing the job.

There is going to be an antibiotic that will work. It will take years to get it, I am sure.

The problem I see is that where the medicine is put. If the medicine in the 166 Patent was used on the eye lashes and rim of the eye it would have been really successful. That is the one thing my friend and I can say we have discovered as the products Benzethonium Chloride, Benzalkonium Chloride and Methylbenzethonium have been used for eye problems now and in the past, is just where you put the medicine.

Honjon used a different wipe and he had success with it too. That had Benzalkonium Chloride in it.

Try the wipes on your hands and a small place on your face and see if you are O. K. I didn't do it but it is the wise thing to do now that I know a percentage of people can be allergic.

Hope this information helps you.

Thinking of you,

Lynda79

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Hi Lynda

Thanks for your report on the use of benzothorium chloride and am assured it is safe to use the wipes.

Can you advise me were I can purchase wipes with BC in them as I have been unsuccessful so far. I am very keen to use them.

Thanks

Jim77128

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Dear James and everyone,

You have to look on line. The hand wipes in the UK have Benzalkonium Chloride and Honjon used those and he is having success.

Most eye meds have Benzalkonium Chloride in them as a perservative. It has been shown to be not good and can be dangerous if used on a permanent basis. That is why it needs to be done topicallyand fast.

It is in the detergent family and is an antimicrobial agent.

This something to kill it in a few months and move on. Don't use this forever. I do not have it any longer.

There is an antibiotic that can kill it if put on the lashes too. If it is put in the eye it can go on the lashes.

If you get it in your eye, simply use your eye drops (water ones) to rinse the eye. I tore each strip into 8 sections so that I used only a small amount on my fingertip. That way you have better access to the area and not all over your eyelids.

Please google all the information and see for yourself. It does have lanolin in it and some are alergic to that too.

Check on-line for where to get them.

Please let me know how you are doing and if you need any more information. I'll share what I found.

Wish you relief soon.

Lynda79

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Hi , you can get the wet ones from amazon usa , not too expensive . You can also buy the uk wet ones (light blue packet ) from boots .

ian

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I just would like to reiterate that these Wet Ones (red package in US with Benzethonium Chloride) have been the answer to my blepharitis condition.

I have suffered from Blepharitis for over 20 years (I am 45 now and was diagnosed in 20's in college). I have been to a multitude of eye doctors, allergist, and dermatologist with little relief.

Most of these physicians recommend baby shampoo eye scrubs and a tobradex steroid eye cream (like petroleum jelly - vaseline consistency). These items offered only slight relief.

I would do an internet search on blepharitis occasionally i the hopes that someone would have something new to suggest. When I stumbled upon the Wet Ones post I was very skeptical but figure I had nothing to lose by trying it.

I still am amazed that this has been the thing that has offered me relief. Just today a friend told me what amazing eye lashes I have. My lashes have finally grown all back in and my eyes look and feel great. My last eye doctor said that my eye lash loss was probably permanent due to the length of time that I have suffered from this ailment. So glad she was WRONG!

I pray that this simple solution can be the answer for others. I says prayers of thanks for Lynda and her campaign to spread the news about this option. God Bless!

Jill