Opinion about Mirtazapine

Hello all !

I have some question regarding  mirtazapine.

I wanna take it exclusively for weight gain & appetite. ( I'm an ectomorph with high metabolism). 25yo 1.74m 66kg. I eat approx 3000kcal of clean food  & workout 3times per week.

My question is: If I try 30mg for 6 weeks ( i heard lower dosage has nasty sedative effects ) how do i withdraw ? Because i dont wanna have those sides u have at a lower dosage.

Many thanks ! 

 

The lower doses are sedating but that over sedating feeling lasts a week tops then go it only lasted 2 days for me then it's just sends me to sleep naturally and no hangover effect the next day I'm on 15 mg and full of energy during the day x

Also to wd you will have to reduce your dose starting at 30 mg it will still sedate you as it's very powerful new drug so you will avoid the sedating effect of the drug by starting at that dose x

Im on 15 and so tierd all the time only been a week..lets hope it gets better..in two wks time iv to take 30..tbh cant wait to put weight on lol

its ok

week 1-6 30mg

week 6-8 15mg

week 8 - none ?

Yes it does I've been on all the doses 30mg was too simulating for me made me aniexty increase tenfold reduced 45mg sent me manic so reduced back to 15mg and back on tract. I'd give 15mg more time as this is very powerful drug and hard to wd from so only go up if your sure you need to. I was ill physically for almost 2 weeks with every decrease x

Been on mirt since March. The tirdness does go honestly and if it doesn't mirt is not for you x

That's a very fast wd tbh. You could get some nasty wd effects plus it takes 6 weeks to reach full effect I and start workinf don't know why brother to take it at all if your just going to stop when it begins working x

Dont just stop them ween urcel off them can do more damage jus stopping them..

Week 1_6 30mg

Week6-8 22.5mg

Week8-10 15mg

Week10-12 7.5mg

Week 13 7.5mg every other night

Stop

Much less harsh mirt is know for nasty wd never stop at 15mg you will hit wd full force some people will tell to half the 7.5mg to 3.75mg coz 7.5mg stopping can cause nasty wd believe me x

I understand but i wanna know if its a solution to avoid the low dosage sides.

at higher dosage ( 30mg+ ) it stimulates the release of dopamine which can counteract the sedative qualities.

I have been off Mirt for 34 days. I cold turkeyed after weaning myself down for 30 mg to 15 mg. The side effects were unbearable. Shaking, tremors, sweating, vomiting, upset stomach, headaches, anxiety, panic attacks, itching, restless leg syndrome ect. This is by far the worst medicine to get off of! I don't recommend playing around with this and "just giving it a try" I have read plenty of blogs on here that people say it takes 7 months, lowering your dose to get the withdraws to go away. I am crying every day, depressed...the list goes on and on but I will not go back to how I first started out. I don't think this drug is good at all. Will never take it again. I recommend clean eating, I take vitamins and shakes and drink nothing but purified water. If any of you are experiencing this, please hang in there and know there will be better days.

Hi Prider

I can understand why you might want to take Mirtazapine as a last resort for weight gain, but please do read that leaflet and know that you are taking a strong drug that is mind altering, at any strength, 15, 30 or 45 mg.  One person on this forum only took 7.5 mg for 12 weeks and had terrible withdrawal.

Also be aware that most doctors recommend starting at 15 mg not 30 mg, and if necessary work up to 30 mg after several weeks, which gives your mind and body time to adjust.  Very many people have had bad episodes when going up to 30mg with anxiety and nausea. Yes the slow release sedation is stronger on the lower dose, but it does ease off once your body has got used to it.

Mirt will only increase your appetite whilst you are on it, and thinking logically, if you only want to stay on it for 6 weeks, that increase will stop after that time, again "obviously".  Is it worth risking your mental health for.  At least you will have lots of info' and advice from this forum to help you make up your mind.

As a rule of thumb, to withdraw the best advice is to reduce Mirt by 10% every 3 to 4 weeks, which will go some way to reduce WD effects.  Being on for only 6 weeks you may get away with quicker, but : "You won't know if you're in the unlucky minority until it's too late.  (It can take 2 weeks to feel any effects of wd then BAM - it hits you).  It's a lot easier to taper slowly than to put your nervous system back together again after it's injured. It's a Humpty-Dumpty situation. Once your nervous system falls off that wall, there's not much that can be done to put it together again.

So, harsh as it sounds, I'd steer well clear of Mirt if I were you, you sound like you have a healthy mind, sleeping well, no anxiety, blessed, unlike most people on this forum, including me, who have to take it.

Anyway, let us know what you decide, and if it works for you - I hope you have an easy ride Prider I really do, but be caustious with this little "megga" drug.

C

 

No there isn't you can stop at 30mg but believe me you will be so I'll mirtazapine isn't a drug you mess around with wd has to be done slowly you will still be sedated at 30mg it's the most power anti histamine on the planet and once your use to it the sedation goes x

many thanks for your answer and I wish u well ! After what u said, i think its not worth the risk. Do u happen to know other alternatives for increasing appetite and/or slow down metabolism a bit ? I tried Peritol ( cyproheptadine ) but i was sleepy all day I couldn't workout properly. 

BTW I've lost 2 stone on mirtazapine doesn't always work for appiete it really isn't worth the risk just to eat more tbh x

You want to put wieght on eat food and meal shakes like slim fast for extra carolus you'll put wieght on in no time 6 meals and 2-3 shakes a day x

I have been on Mirtazapine 45 for 8 weeks and haven't gained or lost weight. I am on it for depression along with Venafaxine. I eat normally for me and probably have about 1800 calories a day and I am aged 74 so! As for withdrawing I have not got to that yet. Maggie

Hi Prider

"Sleepy all day"  - good job you didn't take the Mirt' as that would blow your socks off with "fatigue" to start with.  

No I'm sorry, I don't know much about increasing appetites, but I'm sure there are plenty of "drugs" you could discuss with your doctor.  REALLY ... so many people would love to be that slim, but I get it, I really do.  

So you go to the gym to work out ... what about the Protein shakes that everyone who is bodybuilding raves about, even my son.  He buys Kinetica brand, to help him bulk out, seems to be working.  Yeh, that sounds right, get yourself a good trainer for advice and go the natural way.

Kick the Mirt out, you can do it smile

Wishing you well too.