Had Greenlight 3 days ago, and the urologist told me to keep the foley in until Monday . But when I wake up in the morning only after 4 hours sleep there is 1800ml of urine. What I want to know if the foley was not there to collect it, would this mean I would be waking up every hours to urinate. Normally without this BPH, a man holds in his urine all night and voids in the morning. But no void 2000ml in the morning. Does this mean I will be a bedwetter and wear depends. I like lifting weight, when can I go back.?
No Mark it does not mean that. I had my Focal Laser Ablation 12-19-16. Had the catherter for 6 days. Took it out my self and no big deal nothing to it as I deflated the ball and pull one little tug and then p*ssed it out of me in the shower. Nothing.
I had a few nights were my volume while on the Foley was like 1600 to 1800 over night. Great thing was I slept all night with that Foley. Before the procedure I was up about 8 times a night and went 75cc to 150cc, After the Cath came out it was only that much during the day and 200 to 250 at night I was up 3 to 5 times for the first say, 10days.Then a week ago Thursday it all turned around. Boom! I was better over night in every way. I slept all night or got up only once since then and I now pee 500cc at night if I do get up. It is really fun to watch so i usually get up once to watch it about 2:30 am. During the day I am only going 3 to 4 time all day from 7 am until 10 pm bedtime. No more Urgency. Had sex 2 times in the last week and no blood in the ejaculate.
The FLA procedure has given me back my life as it was 20 years ago in 3 weeks. My prostate was 125cc insize and I had BPH for at least 8 years.
My Interventional Radiologist who did this procedure says it will continue to get better for the next 3 months. This doctor called me every night for two weeks to check on my progress. He would call after work when he was finished doing FLA procedures for prostate cancer treatment. This guy is unbelievable with his coaching and support.
Stop worring Mark and let all settle down. Dont take that foley out to quick. the inflamation will go down and you will get better fast. If you have urgency or burning when you pee or if you are now having any bladder spasms then get an RX from him for URIBEL. It will stop it all and is a real life saver in these procedures.
Good Luck. John
Forgot to tell you Uribel turns you pee a real pretty blue color while you are taking it but stops the color right away when you stop.
Sorry Mark, my first response got moderated. We never know about this site, sometimes it just blocks us. They will read it and let it go Maybe by Monday but basically I said stop worring it will get better and your Foley volume is not strange or concerning. Get a drug called Uribel for stinging or bladder spasms or for any discomfort during the cath or after you take it out.
Mark, I had Greenlight lazer 3-1/2 months ago. Out patient. Like you had foley cath in from Wed to Monday when I went back to URO to have it removed. Went home and about 3 to 4 hours later I had an urgent need to urinate. Lucky for me I thought ahead and had Depends guards because I didn't quite make it. Was pretty urgent for a while. Stayed around home for several weeks with just short trips.
Just had a little stinging when peeing around the 2nd week then went away.
I had no pain after surgery and went right home.
During the day when I still had the cath in I was always emptying the leg bag.
At night with the big bag sometimes I would have 1700 ml in the morning.
I then started drinking less water in the evening . That helped. I didn't have any blood to speak of after surgery or after the cath was removed. Now 3/1/2 weeks later with some pills to help my bladder relax I am almost back to normal.
I go back for another checkup in 2 weeks for a bladder scan to make sure my bladder is emptying completely.
Back in August I had a UTI with severe sepsis and was in hospital because or retention. Was self cathing 3 times a day then they did a scope and seen my prostate had uretha completely closed off. A few weeks later I got a serious bladder infection and was back In hospital and they upped the surgery to the next week. The hardest part was not doing anything for several weeks. I am a self employed contractor semi retired. I can't stand sitting around.
Lucky I have no retro ejaculation
I am 63 and will be 64 in 2 months.
Hi Mark,
2000ml in the morning is a lot. What is your 24 hour void? What is your total fluid intake? I doubt very much you will be voiding 2000ml overnight in a few weeks as the kidneys have a tendency to unload after an obstruction has been removed as what happened with GL. That said, you may still have to get up at night because as we get older our night time urine output tends to increase, but it doesn’t mean you will be incontinent. It’s only been three days since your GL. I’d try not to worry or speculate too much and see how things are after the recovery period.
Jim
My story was different. I always had urinary retention but would not listen to urologist and get Greenlight. I used to weightlift alot, very vigorous and time consuming routines. I mean in. While than while doing some Farmer walks with 45 pound dumbells, I fell and hurt my knee, it was so swollen I had to rest in bed for 10days, sleeping, the pain was intense, did not take pills though. Than I could not go to bathroom, not urinate , I mean defecate, and I was very weak and had trouble walking up the stairs, So my doctor treating me for constipation. After 2 weeks they discovered my kidneys were building up poison inside because the urine could not get out. at ER I was catherized and 3 1/2 liters of urine came out. than more 7 1/2 more liters in 2 days. Than my weight dropped from 182 to 165 in 5 days. Then they scheduled the greenlight it was done last Thursday and I am waiting for catheter removal. Thank you for the advice,
I will take your advice and follow it, thank you very much.
Mark,
There are no experts here. MOst of what you have is men whose procedure did not turn out well. Men who have good results tend not to post new information. don't judge you situation by everything you hear here.
I had Greenlight on 12/6. Check out my thread "I had Greenlight 12/6. I have chronicled my progress since then in the hope that men can learn about what happens over the course of healing.
YOur best resource is your doctor. Bleeding and passing scabs is normal. My uro said that having orgasms does not inhibit healing.
I wish you well in your recovery. Don't freak out. Be patient and follow your doctor rather than alarmist who had a negative experience and posts here.
OK I will get Uribel.
Ok the logic is sound, I will be calm.Thanks, Mark
Mark, you were worse than I was and I had severe sepsis. The ER doc said good thing I didn't wait another day. I could of went into septic shock and had organ failure. As it was my kidneys hurt me for awhile after I went home and they checked them and said they wasn't damaged. Still hurt and had a hard time getting to sleep. Now I won't think twice about going to the ER. Saved me twice.
Keep us posted on your progress. My URO has done around a thousand Greenlight procedures. Didn't touch anything important.
Good luck
Hi mark,When i had a foley catheter i would void 18oo ml allnight also,then their were less amounts. Did they do a urodynamics test before Gl? I have complete urine retention,and will be doing this test soon ,after this, problably Gl.
How do feel about having this surgery done?
Thanks Mark and i wish you all the best.
Vaughn You are lucky. I wish you a long and happy life and good healing Ken
Mark Not all of us on here have a negative comment. There have been many good results with many of the procedures. Keep talking with your doctor and tell him what is going on. We have to stay in touch with the men on here because that is the way we learn what is going on Also all men heal in different way...Take care Ken
OK Thanks
Over a year ago, they attempted urodynamic study, but they could not get the catheter to go in, so they cancelled it. I had urinary retention of 400ml in my bladder at all times. But another urologist who I consulted said my retention was 900ml and told me it was dangerous and to do the procedure immediately. He is 80 years old and was like saying do not leave my car without doing a procedure. But he preferred the microwave TUMT he said greenlight was barbaric. The day of the greenlight they did general anesthic and I thought that meant they might do TURP. but the reason they choose general anesthetic was because I used to have sleep apnea. The surgery was OK, they injected VERSED at 8.30 am and I was in the recovery room at about 10am, with the bag. Over the first few days while at home, my bag had blood, but not much and I had constant burning. Bag will be removed Monday or Tuesday. I let the leg bag stay on and do not change to 2000ml , so I wake up several times during the night to change the bag, maybe 2 or 3 times and the bag usually has 500ml of urine in it. Clear.
Mark, forgive me if I have told you this but it may help your recovery and it was a God sent product to me. I just had FLA and it was wonderful but the doctor gave me a drug for bladder spasms and burning or stinging urination and it stops urgnecy feelings. It is called URIBEL and it will make your urine a pretty blue color but it goes back to clear when you stop taking it. But this product really works vey well in you condition. I had it during the Foley and afterward. Good luck.
Hi J120,
Congratulations on your continued recovery!
Earlier, you mentioned a Prednisone pack post FLA. Was this taken at the same time you were on URIBEL. Can you differentiate what benefits came from each?
Also, the symptons you mention -- bladder spasms, stinging urination, urgency -- would you say they were a temporary byproduct of FLA or of the catherization?
I ask because all those symptons are typical of self catherization (CIC) during the first couple of weeks. Not in most cases, but in my case they significant. It occured to me that a drug like URIBEL might have made a significant difference to me during that time.
Jim
Hi Mark,Thanks for your reply. I sure you get well soon.
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