REZUM--HAVE YOU HAD THIS DONE???????

I had a nice conversation today with the President of the "Urology Times". He was telling me that there is a "New Procedure" that has been approved called the "REZUM SYSTEM".  The company that makes the system is called "NXThera, Inc".  You can google them up and lots of stuff comes up.  I called them for a referral and they gave me a Doctor in Minnepolis that has done it over 50 times now.  I called his nurse and she said he would call me back and answer my questions on monday.  As you guys probably know Doctors are not very good at returning calls but we'll see what happens.  Iam not very good at explaining how the procedure works but basically they take the device and put it up the uretha and vaporize the prostate cells which kills them.  It works with high pressure "steam" that at a certain degree will kill the prostate tissue.  My question for you guys is there anybody out there that has had it done to them and how are you getting along and are there "side effects", etc etc?????

When you say vaporizes the cells. Does that mean it would take away the ablitiy to have semen during climax.?

It sounds like a TURP using steam rather than a knife, egg beater, or green light. I would expect that with any of those procedures, you are doing the same thing by any number of different ways, and likely to end up with the same results, and the same side effects. I wouldn't consider any of them until you have tried PAE and Urolift, which really are very different from these TURPs.

Neal

I read up on it and it soumds like just another way of coring out the prostate.  I sent them a e-mail and ask if it causes retro orgasm   Ken

Hi Neal;  I have already had a "PAE"  and a "UROLIFT" with NO sucess.  I continue to look at other alternatives until I get some relief from "getting up 3 to 4 times nightly" to pee. Iam  way beyond frustrated.  I try very hard to control my lifestyle by limiting my caffeine and also not drinking hardly anything past 5pm. But as you guys know the kidneys keep manufacturing urine 24 hours per day. They are not like a water tap where you can just turn it off for the night.  I have an appmt with my urologist on March  7th and Iam going to see about getting a "RE-DO" on the Urolift.  He now does the Urolift procedure even though he is not the guy who did mine.  He just started recently doing them.  I had mine done in June of 2015 in Joliet, Illinois.  I was "Really Hoping" to find some guys that have had the "REZUM" procedure because just like you guys I wanted to ask about retro grade ejaculation and impotence and all those other nasty side effects.  Hope we can find some guys who have tried this procedure.

That's great, and, at this point it might be exactly the right thing for you. That said, there are a lot of folks on here who hear TURP from their urologist, and run out and do it without exploring the alternatives as you have. And the urologists dress up the TURP with a new name, and people think it's something different when it's really not. For someone like you to make an informed decision is great. I'm just trying to help inform others so they don't get run into an uninformed decision with possible side effects they weren't told about, and don't know about.

Neal

I had a TUMT in Jan. 2015 and it is similar in that tisue is destroyed with microwave energy. Well, lasted less than 9 months. I have given up on finding the holy grail treatment and have a surgery scheduled for March 22. Should be the end of all my prostate "problems". Have accepted the retro ejaculation as I figure I'm well past baby making.

James;  Which "particular" surgery have you chosen???   God Bless You.

Will probably be a simple(open) prostatectomy but won't know exactly until I'm in the operating room and all tests are made. At that point Dr. makes decision.

I just literally got off the phone with the "PRESIDENT"  of "NXThera" the inventors of the "REZUM SYSTEM".  He told me that there is "NO RETRO GRADE EJACULATION".  He was very emphatic about this.  He recommended a guy that has done it now exactly 62 times and I have a call in for him to ask a few more questions about side effects and what to expect post recovery.  I wish I could find someone here in Omaha but this procedure is just barely 6 months old.  I'll let you know what I find out.  Still would love to hear from guys that have already done the procedure.

James alot of us on here are passed the baby making stage but we still what all of it.  I went through the dry orgasms when I was on a pill.  Did not care for it and it hurt my bladder at times I did not want to have sex..  I had a Uro-lift and it worked great.  Have you ever had a dry orgasm.  To make sure that you are ok with it have your doctor give you a pill that will cause it it see if it's something you can live with.  I know that your going through alot but When they core out your prostate you are going to be in alot of pain and bleed more they you are going to think.  It will take you month's to get better and you will not know if it works just like the first procedure you had . There was a man on one of these forums that had to have a turp done 2 time did not work and the doctor said we need it done it again.  He say no way and I should have not done the first time.  He is so depressed he has giving up on life.  Just saw the answer you gave chuck.  I would never like another man make that decision for my body.  Do you know the side effect if your doctor does that to you.  A dry orgasm is the least of your problem.  You may has well say sex is a thing of the passed.  You will have urinary problems erectile problem. The doctors allway say it's not a big deal but they don't tell you that it may take up to 2 years to get anything back if you do and it will never feel the same.  Life is to short and we need to enjoy all of it.  It is your dicision but I hope you make the right one.  Good luck ken

Thats good to hear maybe because the vapor does not effect the ejaclator glands.  If it is ture that is great news for alot of men.  I would like to hear for any men that were in the trials.  I will keep reading about it Ken

James I'm sorry but I can't get this out of my head.  Do you have cancer or just because you are having a problem peeing your going to let the doctor make the decision to take your prostate out.  My god I think you would be worst off and you can end up in diapers.  The prostate is the plug for the urine without that you have no control PLEASE PLEASE look more into it before you do something you will not be able to handle it I cannot see a man going through all of that when there could be something else he can do.  At least talk it over with your doctor.  And tell him do what you can but My prostate stays were it is It would save you alot of trouble.  I don't know if your married but if you are you are not the only one going through with this.  Ken

First of all I am NOT having my prostate removed. I do not have cancer and I have been on tamsulosin for about a year and  half so I am familiar with retro ejaculation and like you think it sucks. The doctor I am seeing is highly respected and my own personal MD that I have been seeing for the last forty five years had a TURP done last year by this same Urologist and has been completely satisfied with the results. So I figure I am in pretty good hands. The recommended procedure is due to the SIZE of my prostate making it difficult to go the typical roto router method. As I said the method will be determined when all facts are considered. 

I appreciate your concern. You can get more information on this by looking up that procedure.

Well that does help me a bit.  But you do know that a prostatectomy is the removal of part or all of the prostate.  I would tell my doctor to do what he can but the prostate stays were it is.  I would not let him make that decision.   I don't want you to wake up and have to deal with more problems.  I know you trust him but it is your body  Ken   

Chuck.  I am a little confused.  What is the connection between getting up many times in the night and operations to open up the urethra (Urolift, PAE and indeed TURP or green laser or ...)?  I have had a Urolift because my stream was so poor.   

Getting up all the time surely is due to a small bladder and/or drinking too much and/or needing to go before bladder is full.  In my case I have the problems of a small bladder (<300cc) and having to go when my bladder is only half full - but no amount of Urolift surely will solve that problem.

Cheers

Mike

Chuck,

I have been reading everything I can about the Rezum system. So far, it sounds great. However, I can't find anything about two issues - pain, both during the procedure and after, and after procedure side effects such as bleeding, infection, tissue swelling, or something else I have not thought of. Would like to know about the procedure from the patient point of view. Many of these procedures sound good on paper, but then we read about the pain and side effects from men who have actually had the treatments, we get a very different picture. 

So far, PAE appears to be the most beneficial relative to pain and side effects for most men. 

Very interested in your report after you speak with the doctor,

Tom

I most definately will pass along any information that I think will be of interest. I presume you have read all my posts and know that I did try a minumly invasive procedure called TUMT ( trans urethral microwave thermaltherapy) which looks similar to this new method since tissue is removed with microwave energy (you essentially get cooked) took about a half hour and is an inpatient procedure. Requires a foley for a couple of days and there was much bladder spasms (quite uncomfortable) after that things did quiet down and took about six weeks before I was in the clear. However I was still required to take tamsulosin during that time and for maby a month or two more. The return to normal function took about two more months and at the nine month mark I was back in th ER due to retention. So it was a waste of time. My current Dr. explained that at least for now most of these types of procedures are short lived and are great money makers for providers.  

I talked to his nurse today and she said she will have the Doctor call me on monday.  She did tell me one thing that does concern me.  The president of the company that invented the device told me that there would be NO retrograde ejaculation at all.  The nurse told me that is NOT TRUE.  She said some patients do experience that.  I'll see what the Doc says on monday.  I hate when medical professionals "down play" what is bad news. 

James;  I just want to say Iam truly sorry for your horrible experience of the TUMT.   Its just a shame that there isn't something out there that works 100% of the time with "no side effects".  Why does the Good Lord punish us like this??????