I have sinus tachycardia since Aug 2016 but since going on Bisoprolol 1.25 l have felt awful. Am having early morning wake ups with my heart beating so fast it scares me. Just last night, well early morning really,it was going at 160 the fastest it'd been ever. I am tapering off the Bisoprolol and have been since about Jan this year,a very slow process but l understand it can't be rushed. Am also on bp medication, Lostarten. Anyone any ideas or input to why I am feeling so bad? Have low moods,always jittery and stuffed nose etc. Thanks for any feedback.
I went cold turkey as my EP specialist told me that was fine. I was having an ablation, and he said to just stop. Well, it was not fine. Went through awful withdrawals
I am wondering whether you have having adrenaline/cortisol surges in the morning. I get that. It is caused from anxiety. When I wake up Even before my eyes are open, my mind is racing having different thoughts every second. These thoughts are just things that should mean nothing to me, Then once I am up, for a bit, maybe 15-30 minutes, my legs start to shake, feel weak, and feel all jittery. I feel like each step I take I will not make it.
I also have unsteadiness and feel off balance. Noe, this time of year I experience vertigo (BPPV), so that has added alot of dizzyness too.
Withdrawals can do some scary stuff. I spent alot of time on line researching regarding biso.
AlsoI I spend 10 months weaning from Klonopin and Trazadone and it has been 4 and 5 months since I finished and am still going through terrible withdrawals. Worst thing I have ever had to do.....
I have atrial tachycardia (AT).......going for 3rd try at ablation May 7
Thanks for reply. Can't imagine just coming off Bisoprolol cold turkey,must have been a nightmare because my weaning off very slowly and carefully is bad enough. Doctors just don't understand as they on the whole haven't been through the problem themselves. Haven't a clue.
Hope all goes well for you in May. Best wishes.
Yup it's your cortisol spiking, are you tapering off them by eye? If you are i would suggest you stop and get yourself a milligram scale. I've been tapering off for months and haven't had those cortisol spikes anymore. My spikes were waking me up in complete panic and I had this problem for 3 months not knowing what it was until I went back on regular dose and they stopped. From then on I've been tapering with a scale, my dose is around 0.75, it weighs around 14mg on the scale so I have been going down 1mg every Monday with no problems at all. Good luck!!
What have your withdrawal symptoms from biso? I know you mentioned the heart rate, but anything else?
You are a smart boy Victor!!!. If you read my biso was cold turkey. That brought on such anxiety crap that I went on trazodone and clonezepam. Those have since been weaned off slowly for 10 months. But even though I have been off those 2 for 4 and 5 months, I am still going through the withdrawals.
If I had known that what I was experiencing was from the biso withdrawal effects, I would never have gone on the other 2 drugs. Just has been a nighmare!!!!
Oh thanks Victor.
At least l know why this is happening to me now. I didn't think it was a normal reaction to withdrawal symptoms but then again,what is normal in medication? I literally thought l was going to die because the fast heartrate was taking my breathe away and l couldn't talk or move either. Am petrified it will happen again tonight...
Always feel a low mood, very.jittery and scared most of the time. Headaches, blood pressure spikes, irritable and bloating to name a few. If l can think of any more will let you know. Don't seem to have any dizziness. Oh yes,my eyesight has got worse and my hearing is much worse since last year. And I'm totally just fed up with feeling ill all the time.
Where would l get a milligram scale from Victor?
Hi Christine, You may find Sotalol more suitable than Bisoprolol unless you've tried that already?
No have not tried solatol Penny. Will look into that, that thank you.
What is your dosage now?, and how much are you decreasing and how often.
You sound just like I have been. I hate the anxious feeling. I will wake up in the morning to these shaly jittery legs. I feel I have had so many symptoms. But then again I was also coming off the traz and the Klon.
I got the strangest ones......but not strange to withdrawals.
Lights bothered me
Smells bothered me
BP goes up and down
nightmares, tongue goes numb, body jerks, cold hands and feet, watery eyes, when I put my front top and bottom teeth together they chatter, stomach issues, left ear fluttering,noises are way to loud,weird toothaches when the tooth has had a root canal and is capped,facial pressure,
The list sounds ridiculous. ,
Am on 1.25 at minute and my method is just to chip a bit off every day. Bit hit and miss am thinking now,as according to Victor l need a milligram scale as it is a more accurate way of doing it. And I've been nipping a bit every day and not once a week so maybe I'm my own worse enemy. My actual worse symptom is the random rapid, and l mean rapid,heartbeat. This mostly in the early hours. I also am very cold all the time and shake when the heart goes fast. Like you to my eyes water a lot. You have a lot of side effects don't you? I feel for you l do.
I got it on eBay for I believe was 20$, came with tweezers which is great.
The scales are tricky so you would have to weigh it out, see how much it weighs, pick it up with the tweezers and make sure the scale reads 0.000 then place the bisoprolol back down.
The scales sometimes read a bit different so picking it up and re weighing it just makes sure your getting the correct weight. Do this as many times as you would feel assured it's the right amount. Your on a smaller dose so you'll be able to come down as quick as you would like but being you have the same side effect I have I went down (on the scale) 1mg every week. I had one issue going down from 0.015 to 0.014 but I just did the 0.014 every other day and it worked. Also taking magnesium at night before bed helps alot as well for the cortisol spikes. I hope everything goes well for you, I wouldn't wish those side effects on anyone I know. Let me know how it works out!!
Ok and thanks Victor.
Had another cortisol surge at 5am so took a quarter of Bisoprolol and very cold water. It helped although this surge wasn't as fierce as the other one,maybe because l acted quicker,who knows? Have given over second guessing this now and try to go with the flow. Will keep you posted. Best wishes.
Did you have a tachycardia in morning always while on Bisoprolol?
Or only since you start to lowering the dose?
If you started to have it now when you are lowering the dose, then it is mostly likely a withdrawal.
A fast heart rate is the most common symptom of Beta Blockers withdrawal.
I had to wean off twice, I didn't make it in the first attempt.
In the 2nd attempt I had to wean off for around 8-9 Months and it was still painful, with an elevated heart rate, let's say 90-100 while resting almost daily.
I am fine now with 16 Months off drugs, my resting HR is around 70.
But in some people, it takes Months.
Hi Bob
I've only had the sinus tachycardia in the morning since weaning off the Bisoprolol yes.
Makes sense then if you think it's due to my cutting back on the betta blocker but it's so worrying when it happens. Been weaning since around 3 months so far and don't seem to be getting any further forward. It took you 2 goes and many months as you said so l guess I'll have to be more patient and carry on. Am now trying to take the half tablet as late as 8pm in the hope it will see me through until at least 6am following morning,with no panics. Thank you for telling me your expirience.
Hi Victor
Have done as you suggested and ordered a milligram scale. Will let you know how l go with it. Thank you.