Starting remeron WD week 8. Still insomnia and morning anxiety

Hi Calmer,

my doc seems to be aware of withdrawal and have or had a couple of patient having a lot of issues with AD withdrawal however not Remeron but Paxil.

So he advised me to take 1mg Xanax with delayed release at bed time and he prescribed me melatonin which I haven't tried yet since you said it could alter the healing process. BTW if you have more info about it, I'd be interested to read it.

With 1mg Xanax, I wake up about 6 hours after falling asleep (deep sleep). After that, I am able to get a lighter sleep during which I feel increasing throat, chest, abdominal stomac ... heart rate increase up to the point I feel restlessness and have to get up. Sometimes those anxiety peaks also happen during the day. They last 2-3 hours per day and then I am feeling ok. I would say I am mentally ok even during accute symptoms, it's just that it is physically very hard to withstand. 

Sometimes I have doubts that what happens to me are only WD symptoms. It has been 8.5 weeks that I stopped the drug. I have gone through a lot of symptoms, some like depression, irritability are much less present, but anxiety and bad sleep quality is still and strongly present.

I am not really enthousiastic about returning to a low mirt dose. I have read that this could be efficient after 3-4 weeks but not after 8 weeks.

I appreciate very much your support, 

Have a nice weekend.

Nico

 

Nico I've sent you a private message.

I have no doubt that Mirt discontinuation symptoms can last for many months Nico, so please don't ever think any symptoms you have is purely down to any old symptoms returning.  

When we stop AD's too quickly, or even Mirt' at 0.5 mg, it can shock the CNS, so many folk are struggling with the same symptoms as you Nico, I don't know if that helps, but it could be reassuring  

I stopped 22.1.17 and I still have odd days when I feel the fatigue and foggy head that is discontinuation of Mirt ... and sleep isn't perfect by any means, but I'm getting there, slowly !

 

Hello all,

here is a little update on how things are at 9.5weeks after my last mirt dose. I don't know if it is worth doing this, maybe that will help someone one day.

Globally, nothing has improved. I don't feel depressed but the pain I feel because of all these anxiety symptoms and its unpredictability just don't make me enjoy the life at all.

Morning anxiety had a huge peak a week ago. Stomach, throat, chest pain, feeling like a void at some abdomen place, weak legs and arms were just an unbearable pain. I guess the chronical lack of sleep doesn't help. The pattern "feeling bad in the morning and good in the evening" is still present apart from few exception.

Sleep is very poor even with 1mg xanax (delayed action) about 5 hours. My doc prescribed me 25mg Seroquel and I also take 0.5mg xanax (delayed action). With this, it is possible to sleep about 7 hours. I have to say that it is hopeless to try without all this chemical aid now. My heart beats so fast that there isn't anyway I could fall asleep. Since improving my sleep with the Seroquel, morning anxiety has improved. But who knows about tomorrow?

Today I woke up with bearable anxiety and it didn't last for long. Morning was fine and I was quite happy about it. At 1 pm, just before lunch and within 1 minute, I got a painfull stiff neck and accelerated heart rate that lasted until 5 pm. The tension caused by this stiff neck was strong enough to completely spoil the afternoon. I also noticed a kind of slight fog in my head as it is often the case when I am feeling anxiety.

I am always wondering if all this can be due to the brain neuronal reorganization after stoping the mirt. I try to convince myself that this is possible by reading the post https://patient.info/forums/discuss/mirtazapine-withdrawal-19353?page=29

from Kerk and miami1. I wish I knew them to share my experience with.

But god, that's such a hard time. Where is the end of the tunnel? 

Nico

 

Ahhh I looked at the thread you mentioned above, its over a year ago, in fact I think it may be more like over 2 years old because in all my time I havn't seen it before.  People shift away maybe.

Nico, these symptoms are all listed as WD, have no fear that its due to anything else.  Palpitations, brain fog, neck pain less but mentioned quite often).

 

Hey Nico I'm currently on my 35th day after stopping mirtazapine 30 cold turkey, unaware of the outcome and unintentionally I've stopped and found myself in a lot of trouble..,I wanted to know more about your throat symptoms, did it feel tight or like very tense?? I'm having similar symptoms and was wondering, if is from just been stressed about the whole withdrawing process...please let me know...I hope you are feeling much better, let us know know if you're better😊