Stinging nettle root extract.

Hi all,

Just been reading up on this and wondered if any of you have tried this in an attempt to alleviate your symptoms of BPH.

If so I would be interested in hearing whether you found any benefit from taking it and, if so, how long it took to see any positive effects.

In particular I was thinking of trying, if I can get hold of it in the UK, a particular 'blend' of stinging nettle root extract and saw palmetto which seems to get good reviews when googling it.

It goes under three brand names: prostagutt forte, prostactive plus and prostol.

Has anyone tried any of these?

I've been told green tea and also cranberry juice my prostatitis is playing up at min badly ,I will try anything once to help ,as for nettle tea why not try it hope it helps

I often wonder about 'herbal' medicine's and how much you have to really consume to make a difference. From what I have read the prostate grows at 5% a year. depending on your size, mine is 50g. It doesn't take much for it to start being a problem. After my surgery this week, I am hoping not to be looking over my shoulder constantly, worrying about where the bathroom is...I'm sure we have all been thru that aspect of going to a ball game or just out and about. I am being proactive and getting this thing fixed. Hopefully once and for all. I'm 69,  fit and overall healthy, My weight is fine. I can't wait to get my life back. ( fingers crossed).

I have hear that zinc and saw palmento 'help'. The Flomax and Proscar I was on did the job, until the gall bladder operation things were or seemed to be OK, but 3 catheter's in and out, after my gall bladder surgery on July 14th, its now time for  TURP surgery, to finally fix this thing.

Hi Mike,

I try to keep an open mind as regards 'alternative' remedies. They seem to work for some but not for others.That is why I am trying to get some 'first hand' experiences from someone who has tried the 'blends' I mention.

What a coincidence you have had gall bladder surgery in July. I had my gall bladder removed quite a few years ago now (I was only 24, I am 62 now). I was glad to be rid of it!

My best wishes to you for a successful TURP procedure. I hope it puts an end to your prostate problems once and for all.

Take care.

Hi Stephen

Yes your right about trying the right blend, I guess the person who would know would be a natropath (sp). Our bodies differ so much you just have to go along with trial and error I guess and see what happens. I was glad to get rid of the gall bladder, wow, right out of the blue it hit me, I'm glad its gone, and i will be happy to see the prostate 'resized' as well. I don't know of to many men who 'don't' have an issue with it, its only a matter of time, but new surgical techniques are being developed so down the road I'm sure its going to be even better for those who have to have some kind of surgery. 

Thank you for the best wishes, I'm looking forward to a speedy recovery and no more meds. 

Best

Mike

In my case, the benefit of 240mg per day was almost immediate. Now, I also take 320mg of Saw Palmetto oil at a separate time.

My PSA is only 2.7, and BPH symptoms were nocturia and pain in the groin. The pain is gone and the nocturia greatly reduced to once or twice (if I've been drinking a few red wines later than I should) a night. All good from my perspective, and PAE if things ever worsen.

I did give some of these natural remedies a try but my prostate issues did not abate at all. I think it can help if the prostate is not that big yet.

The average prostate is 30g, mine is 50g, almost double the size. Has to be re-sized.

Neither Stinging Nettle Root Extract nor Saw Palmetto Oil are claimed to reduce the size of the prostate. They do reduce the symptoms though.

Anything that helps is good in my books, I'm going for surgery this Friday, so will be back online once I'm able to and keep you informed on my recovery. Send good Karma to the surgeon who will be doing my surgery.

Thanks

Mike

It may be a little late, but check out PAE and Urolift, before you have a Turp. A TURP can have awful, irreversible side effects .

Neal

Hi Neal

Thanks for the advice but my TURP is a go. I will  have to deal with the outcome and a specialist told me that it still remains the "gold standard", I will take his word on that, and thousands have been done and continue to be done. I'm 69 and not going to father any children at this point in my life so that aspect is not a bother to me at all. My concern is growth, prostate's grow like weeds, I do not want to be completely blocked off so I will go with 'resizing' now and will hope for the best the older I get. All the best.

Mike

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

Neal

Large review: TURP still gold standard for BPHMay 20, 2012Transurethral resection of the prostate (TURP) remains the gold standard for treating BPH, a review of Medicare claims data showed.

Encompassing outcomes with more than 600,000 procedures, the results showed that complications occur slightly more often with TURP, but approximately 20% of patients require follow-up surgery (usually TURP) after transurethral microwave therapy (TUMT), transurethral needle ablation (TUNA), laser vaporization, and laser coagulation.

"It’s nothing new to learn that the complication rate is higher with TURP, although not much higher than with the other procedures," said first author Sean Elliott, MD, of the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis. “On the other hand, the re-operation rate is dramatically lower with TURP.

"Even though TURP might be declining in frequency as the primary procedure, it still seems to be the go-to procedure for primary treatment failure," he added. "I think that probably emphasizes the fact that everyone, regardless of what they use as primary therapy, still recognizes TURP as the gold standard."

To examine the comparative effectiveness of procedures for BPH, the authors reviewed 100% Medicare files for the years 2001 through 2007, identifying 624,319 men who had TURP, TUNA, TUMT, or one of the laser procedures. TURP accounted for 52.3% of all the procedures, and follow-up averaged 3.6 years.

The most common postoperative complication was urethral stricture, occurring in 4.4% of patients overall, including 5.7% of TURP procedures, 2.3% of TUMT procedures, and 2.6% of TUNA procedures (pp

The 5-year estimated incidence of repeat BPH surgery ranged from 8.3% with TURP to 25.8% after TUMT. After adjusting for patient and hospital factors, retreatment was 2.1 to 3.5 times more likely with laser vaporization or TUMT, respectively, than with TURP.

Go back to this edition of Urology Times Conference Brief.

 

Hi Stewart,

Thank you for your response.

Glad to hear you had positive results. You say you take 240mg per day and found 'almost immediate' relief.

I take it, then, that you have not tried any of the 'blends' to which I refer but take stinging nettle root extract and saw palmetto separately. Do you take a specific 'brand' of either? What do you recommend?

I am currently on Tamsulosin and Finasteride but am currently experiencing a lot of 'discomfort' in the form of a 'burning' sensation after I urinate which lasts for hours. Sometimes this feels like it is right at the base of my penis (deep between my legs) and other times the feeling extends the whole length of my penis and feels very 'raw' with a constant feeling of wanting to 'go'.

It is on my mind constantly and is really getting me down, hence looking around for some relief.

Again, thanks for your input.

Take care.

All that data ignore PAE and Urolift. They also don't talk about the other possible complications, such as impotence, incontinence , and retrograde ejaculation. This was done by urologists, who make a lot of money on TURP.

Neal

Yes very best of luck MIke, Did you say you were in London?

I am in Cambridgeshire and long story short have BPH with 2 episodes of AUR. Been offered GL Laser to blast away part of the offending gland. Now considering my options. Im 53 and Prostate volume I think 48cc.

Let us know how you get on on Friday.

Jez

Hello Jez , I'm in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. You certainly have options and we are both close to 50cc. I was told that it is time to get this 'fixed', so that will happen this Friday. There is no mention of the GL Laser over here, it seems to be the TURP that is most frequently done.  Neal certainly has a point as well, in talking about complications, but I suppose none of the procedures are 100% accurate either. I guess you just have to go with your best gut feeling and listen to the advice given on here, there is alot of experience.

I'll keep you posted.

Mike

Hi Neal, there must be alot of money to be made by urologists, and more and more techniques are being developed. Alot of factors to be considered as well, overall health, weight, size of prostate, age, etc. I'm sure they all come into play in recovery time. One size does not fit all, all I know is that I have to have confidence in the man at the end of the scope that is "re-sizing" me.

Mike

 

That burning feeling is why I started taking Stinging Nettle Root Extract (SNRE) and then a few weeks later started taking Saw Palmetto Oil. No, I haven't tried any 'blends'. I will PM you the brands and where I bought them online in the USA. The reason is that they are half the price and better quality than health shops offer in Australia.

Yes, that feeling has largely gone thanks to the SNRE. If that was due to prostatitis, it knocked it on the head. I told my GP what I was going to take, and it was he who said that Saw Palmetto Oil assists the drugs you mention.  It seems that for now, I don't need to take anything else.