Stomach cramps ruining everything

Hi all

Someone please help.

So i don't know if you saw my other thread but since withdrawal from mirt 45 to 30 The panic attacks have stopped and the morning anxiety is dying down

But what i get every morning without fail is the most debilitating stomach cramps

My doc and i both no i have a really high pain threshold but this is crippling me. Not just my stomach but my bowels are kicking right off to, i am immobilised because of it.

I'm living on pain killers which do help.

I just wanted to know if these are part of withdrawal and will they go away in a day or 2?

I can tough it out if that's the case. Everything else ie anxiety and fatigue are wearing off. I'm sticking to this dose for another 2 weeks at least

If the pains don't go away tho i don't know what to do. If mirt is causing all this i want off asap

Hope you are all having a good weekend

S x

Hi suzannah

Sorry you are still feeling rough.

I went down from 45mg to 15mg of mirt in 2 weeks under doctors orders, it was really tough time and stomach cramps were one of the symptoms.

I rechon I felt like this because  I came off it too quickly I would have thought tapering slowley like you it would have been easier.

I'm still tapering off Im on 7.5mg now and all is ok so far.

I did go onto another AD so again that may have something to do with it.

I really hope it get better soon for you Suzannah

Stay Strong x

Hello Suzannah

It must be catching yesturday went to the hospital fine then we  went to sit by the River Thames for a little while all without a wobbly.

This morning work up to being drenched in sweat now strong belly pains,I am still on 11.25mg I dont know if why its happing.

But we will beat it,I have been reading about this and they said wait two months from the first cut then another two months with the second one then taper 10%

from then on.

I have got to get down to 7.50mg before I have any chance of getting the liquid .

stay strong

Px

Hi Lynne

Thanks for getting back to me

My heads cleared up fine had some slight tummy trouble but today has been the worst.

Im literally bed ridden and even when i lay down and try and relax my stomach keeps cramping

How long did it last for you?i just want to know it will end and I'll stop being such a wimp!

All the other severe side effects only lasted a few days thank god! But this is flooring ne. I have an extremely high pain threshold gave birth twice without medical help(not intensional i just didn't realise how close i was to giving birth)

How are you doing now?

S x

From start to finish I got down from 45mg to 15mg in about 3 weeks thats when all the withdrawal symptoms stopped but as I said before I went onto Sertraline while I was still tapering off the mirt and the last 15mg of mirt has been really hard.

Went to see psych on Thursaday said to up sertraline to 200mg I can keep taking the mirt but Im down to 7.5mg on that so if I can get of it I will and gave me quetiapine 25mg which I can take twice when I need to.

They are antipsychotic drugs used for bipolar and schizophrenia

They just keep throwing drugs at stuff and now I have been discharged because you cant be under a psych and get CBT at the same time!!!!!!

Its a joke

Im not going to take the quetiapine Im going to get of the mirt and just stick with the sertraline for my depression.

I hope you feel better soon.

So sorry Suzannah.  Its worth a mention that it isn't exactly the Mirt' causing it, but the quick taper/withdrawal/discontinuation - call it what you like.  This happens a lot if the taper is too fast, it must be awful for you.  Therefore stopping Mirt' won't cure this but make the wd stomach issues worse, so its just about keeping a slow taper going that suits you personally.  

I think you have a choice, stick it out and hope it passes soon, and of course it may, or reinstate an amount to stabilise ... hard choice I know.  It you choose the latter it will work best the sooner you do it, but it still might take some time, maybe a few days.  Sorry, these options are so negative, I wish I had better news for you. You could try getting something for the cramps from your doctor if you want to stick it out maybe, what do you think?

So sorry, sending get well wishes  x

Thank you for getting back to me guys

I'm pleased to say all the serious physical symptoms have died down last few days.

Still have chest pains headache and nausea but it's treatabl/tolerable

How's everyone doing?

S x

Thats brilliant news Suzannah you will get there very soon

Stay Strong x

Hi Suzannah.

It is so great and encouraging to hear you are doing better. How about your sleeping? Is it worse? Is it the same. Yesterday I took 7.5mg instead of 15mg and what I experienced is that the sleeping was worse.

Hi neogenx

The sleep hasn't been too bad so far. Not getting as many hrs as I'd like but then again anxiety wakes me early most mornings

If I'm still not asleep by 1am 2am I've been taking a benedryl and that seems to do the trick.

I'm only down to 30mg so far just done my first drop and all I've noticed is I'm more bad tempered and have lost all patience but that's still better than having panic attacks

Hang in there you're so close

Wishing you all the luck in the world

S x

Thank you Suzannah.

Wish at least the half of that luck for you.

It is 11am here and I am feeling a bit better than previous days while on 15mg. Hope this trend will continue. I also want to ask you whether you experienced daily rumbling in your stomach (or belly) while on Mirtazapine.

Yes I most definitely do

But have done since I've been on it

Find it very uncomfortable to eat until evening after I've taken mirt

Here's some tips i have found that have helped me along the way

1- I've been taking my tablet alot earlier in the evening sometimes 4 5 o'clock

Reason being i found that my tummy settles for the evening and i can get a few hours normality. Also it stops my body relying on it to sleep so I'm developing other methods to get me to sleep

2-when the withdrawals hit hard in the day i took a little bit of the tablet in the morning not upping the dose just taking the remainder in the evening. Only done this for 1 day but did the trick and found i haven't had to do it since

3- the chest pains i have found taking omega 3 every evening with dinner has helped tons! Also magnesium before i go to bed as it's a natural muscle relaxant. Also take a good multi vitamin

4- enery and fatigue i have been using metatone liquid for energy

5- benedryl if im still wide awake at night

6- muscle pains(my worst symptom) and stomach cramps the doc gave me codeine

I also have diazipams to use if I'm desperate but found codeine seems to do the trick as i think the pain was causing my anxiety so hardly touch them now

Keep yourself comfy

Be kind to yourself

Don't pay any attention to depression and anxiety as it's all to do with withdrawals and will get better when you do

Most importantly believe in yourself

Always here to help

S x

Hey lynne

Im wondering how you are getting along with the sertraline?

I've been on it before in fact was first one docs tried but that caused bad insomnia that's how I arrived on mirtazapine

Doc gave me some sertraline to cross taper mirt i only took half a tablet and i lost all control over my erm nether region

And was at a friends she said i looked like i was on speed!

So havent done it and quite glad i didn't but think maybe was too much with the high dose of mirt so I'm not writing anything off just in case i get into trouble

But I'm interested to see how i am med free

All my symptoms are physical and any time I've tried something else it's got worse

Just interested really another ad I've seen a lot with mirt is velaxatine excuse spelling

I don't want to go down that route but interested in other people's experience

S x

Hey orchid

How are you feeling now?

Have you stayed at same dose or dropped jore?

Hope you're ok

S x

Thank you for detailed description.

I take C+zinc+echinacea, B-komplex, yesterday I began with Omega3. Hope it is good enough for the beginning.

Its important to remember this won't last long.

Im at 3 weeks still uncomfortable but manageable im waiting for another 2 weeks for me to stabilise before I do next drop

But feel now I've done it once I'm prepared and know what to expect the next time

Good luck

Stay strong

S x

Hi Suzanna

So far sertraline has been a bit mixed it wears off really quickly but it is heliping my depression I think!!!! Im now on 200mg

The Anxiety not so much and I think thats going to be sorted by mind over matter eg therapy.

Only time will tell if the setraline is making the anxiety worse then back to the drawing board AD's are a must for my depression because the 3 times I came off them I ended up in a psychiatric unit!! not nice

As for sleep that is a major problem with me and thats why I went onto mirtazapine 45mg but I find the lower dose I am now on 7.5mg is still giving me a half decent sleep but I do want to eventually come of the mirt.I also have 7.5mg zopiclone with I take every 3rd night

I was also gives quetiapine an anti psychotic med by the psych "to take the edge off" but I am giving them a miss I am fed up with pills being thrown at my problems.

So only time will tell if the sertraline is for me or not.

My psych said he did not know much about sertraline!!!!! fills me with confidence NOT his drug of choice is fluxotine but I have tried that twice and it does nothing for me.

I really wish I could be drug free but I cant not with my depression

Stay Strong x

Yes, I fully agree. I have a great wife that really understands me. Moreover I have 8 months old son. So I have to stay strong ... I know I will get there.

Bless you lynne

I know what you mean about throwing more meds at the problem

I've found they make me worse

I'm sorry your depression is such a problem. I don't feel depressed anymore just anxious but it seems i was right all along and mirt is causing it

Think mine might be down to the infamous mirt poop out. But I'm not depressed or suicidal just frustrated

So not going to add any more meds to the mix

Glad sertraline seems to be helping you

And thank you for the info

S x

Aww that's lovely sounds like you have amazing support

And a baby! Should make use of the insomnia and take over night shift! Lol although must have an impact on your sleep

You're only on day 1 got a way to go yet

But you will get there

Stay calm

s x