What are you willing to give up to pee like a race horse?

Dear BPH Sufferers: One common issue with BPH is the ability to naturally pee like we did when we were young and carefree. With that said, what would you be willing to give up to pee like that again? Dave

Dave,

Maybe you were willing to give up a lot, when you went with TURP. Im totally content with waking up once at 4 (because my bladder is thickened and sensitive after years of BPH) , visit Bathroom every 3-4 hrs, have normal sex, being totally continent and not butcher my prostate and urethra . After 50th or my 72 year one can't be a race horse again., but can have a normal life as most 50 year old has without giving up on anything. Urology should become minimally invasive.

The racehorse is probably on Lasix and has been gelded :-)

I’m not willing to give up as much as you did DAVE. Dry ejaculation is so unsatisfying according to so many men now with regrets. just read their posts. Glad you are happy with giving up so much. But so tired of you trying to press your mistake (I mean your decision) on everyone else.

Agree! Couldn't be said better...

what did I miss?

Gene - Nope. Never had a TURP.

No mistake (or decision). Best thing I ever done. When a man cannot pee normally (i.e. full retention as was my case), he must decide what is important in life, or what he is willing to deal with or not. Hence my discussion question.

Gelded back in '91 when I had a vasectomy. My breeding years were over. As for meds, at 62 I am fortunate. I take absolutely nothing for any health issues.

In the horse world, if a horse is not going to be used for breeding anymore, it should be castrated. Makes them more even tempered and easier to handle. If a stallion is gelded later in life, they may retain more aggressive stallion-like behavior, according to Google.

Hello, Moto:

You haven't miss a thing. I just private messaged you, like the other 18 men that have asked about my experience. I am the dark horse (no pun intended) on this BPH forum. I am the only one so far on this forum that has done my specific procedure (see message) and been very pleased with it. I did the second to the most invasive procedure you can do to treat BPH. I now no longer have BPH, which is an enlarged prostate, and the symptoms that go along with it.

Im lost from that tit for tat speak what you mean and say what you say without the hate i would like to know what is best UROLIFT OR PAE PLEASE TRY TO BE ON POINT DRUMMER10

In theory the best is the one that your Uro who knows your condition recommends.

Hello, Drummer:

The post question I made above is simple, but complex. If you want to discuss Urolift (bands) or PAE (beads), find a post where they are being shared and discussed, or post one on your own to get responses. More than likely, you do not want to hear what I did. If so, message me and I would be willing to share.

Dave

If we have learned anything on this forum, doctors will push what their specialty is and what makes them money. We must get smart to weed through the many choices and options that addresses our problem. Next, we decide on a short-term or long-term fix (i.e. non-invasive, minimally-invasive, invasive, or radically-invasive). Lastly, if our doctor is not the one for us, then we must find one that is.

Hi Dave! Glad you are continuing to do well. I think it is important to mention that your prostate, like mine also, was (is) morbidly large at 300 cc. This size restricts our options to either a simple prostatectomy or CIC. I have opted for the latter over these past 3 years but would have done the SP already had it not been for my other problem right now ( scrotal nerve pain from a failed varicocele procedure) which first needs to be resolved. For men with BPH but much smaller prostates there are other good options besides a SP. In many cases their prostates are not all that large (<100cc) but their peeing problems are just caused by a median lobe that blocks the bladder neck. So a simple procedure like FLA (very expensive though) can solve that problem for them and restore an excellent flow without a major surgery. But I do agree with you that at 70 years of age it is time to compromise on some of our youthful advantages. I have enjoyed an active sex life for nearly 50 years but it is unrealistic and selfish of me to expect to continue at that level into my 70s and 80s. Personally I get almost as much enjoyment now from a good bowel movement!! Also there is the worry of developing prostate cancer as I age further. By getting my prostate removed that worry is greatly reduced. So congratulations to you on your bravery and good outcome. I hope to join you if and when I get my scrotal nerve pain problem solved. Howard

That tends to more of an American problem with people seeing individual Uro's rather than having a wider choice in major hospitals as in Europe.

Hi Howard:

I have been thinking about you lately. I see you are planning and calculating things out. Been watching your struggles with that nerve. Hated to hear that. Get it cleared up and then make the next big move. As discussed before, if you are coming my way, let me know. Would look forward to meeting you and your wife in person.

Being able to pee is like being able to breath. You don't normally pay attention to it, you just do it. Now..........if someone puts a plastic bag over your head, it becomes pretty friggin' important QUICK...... It's the same for peeing......until your sitting on a toilet, straining.....trying to just push out just a a shot glass of pee.....and anyone else in the bathroom says, "Do you want me to call for help for you?", because your making more noise than a woman giving birth.......yeah......THEN it's important. I have retrograde ejaculation after GL.......I don't really like it....put that is a price I paid....... And "it" hasn't been used for much else than peeing in the last year or so....... a limp wee-wee is easier to control anyway.............so.... I'd like that fixed, but we'll see what the Dr says next month........

Hi John:

Excellent analogy. While we would normally not think of peeing (natural function), it just takes one episode of straining, or full-on retention, to put us into a panic state. Way too many midnight runs to the ER because I was locked up. Taking away the freedom of not having that one bodily function makes your quality of life go down the tubes. My goal was to get my normal back. I got it back plus some. I walked into bathroom at work this morning around 11:30. I had not peed since 6:00 AM. Guy at the urinal is dribbling away. I step up and void in less than 5 seconds. Wash my hands, leave, and the guy is still standing there. My doctor promised me a garden hose and he delivered.

Hi,Dave, I am very much interested in knowing what procedure you had and how you feel about it? I am in complete urine retention. Prostate to large 116 grams to large for rezum ,PAE not sure about this . I was told Turp should be done ,however at my age 89 ,not to sure about this . Did you do CIC before surgery? Kindle PM me thanks , frank,