117 days now

Hi it been 117 days on 23mg diazepams tapering going really slow. I keep getting women trouble every 2 weeks. I can't believe how many people can do this better than me. Some days I will get out never far. And the next day i feel so ill jelly leg's arms. And the head ache are bad. I'm my the only one who has been so long tapering . Keep feeling like I need the toilet. Front teeth hurting is this normal. I don't think I can drop mg s this close to Xmas. But then i feel bad cos that's means longer on 23mg i bloody hate this feeling.

Regards shell

You are wonderful 👏👏👏😃😃..I'm still on 20 mg a day and suffering withdrawal from Citalopram !! ..these drugs are nasty and life changing ...but ease off now and try to stabilise and have a good Christmas xx

Well I would like to agree on that. But surely after all these weeks i would be good. Ten years i was talking this and had no idea what would happen next. Some chill out pill. Need to be band asp lol. Sertreline and amitripytline on top age 37. God knows what happens when coming off then . Shell

Just a thought..maybe you are withdrawing too slowly ( yes I know it's what should be done)..but for you you are dragging out the symptoms ..ask your GP ..maybe speed it up a bit and take all the sh** at one go ?

I was stuck on 25mg per day for just over a year.

I have been tapering down myself for nearly 5 years.

yes it is normal to feel like that. Every time I drop a dose and feel weird I try to ride it out till I am comfy on that dose then keep on that stable dose 2-4 weeks before making another drop. I am currently on 4 X 2 mg  and slowly stabling  to this dose. Keep up the good work. It is so hard to drop off these but in the long run I'm sure it will be wert it ☺

That's what I was wondering. But I am to scare to as its Xmas soon and I nneed to keep half human for the kids. Thanks god they are 17 and 19 . But I am going to drop soon as possible

shell

Why can't I drop lik yyou every 4 weeks.

Shell

I don't drop every 4 weeks. I drop after I feel comfortable on a dose for around 4 weeks. My last drop took 6 months. I was very unstable on my 10 mg dose for a long time but it did eventually stable out so after it did I then dropped  after 4 weeks. If that makes sense! 

So it took me 4 months to get comfy on 10mgs then I stayed in that zone for a month and then dropped another 2mg.... and bam it happens all over again. It is like a living nightmare but I can't wait for the day I'm finally off them ☺

Hi Shell,i had been on these tabs for over 40 years,My Biggest Help came from a book by Dr Clare Weeks,who has a Method of showing you how to Deal with Withdrawal & in Particular ANXIETY,she has wrote a few books,but Believe me they are Definitely LIFESAVER Books & are in a way My Bible as it was,You can pick these books up on eBay cheaply,.the one i would recommend is Self help for your Nerves,,let me know how you get on please

Hi another day of hell. Feeling like my body been kicked about. Basically I have been life less for 3 days now. Dizziness can't eat. Can't believe how quickly this drug knock you for 6. Morning s i hate soon as my eyes open it's happening all over again. I hate that feeling of losing control. Anxiety is very high 2 day and night. So many heard aches. Jaw pain is this for real. I feel like a odd one. Just can't pull myself together. Hate the fact i got to sleep knowing that I will be feeling that I am spinning out of control. So hard coming of this bull .... off a diazepams it's crazy and mental rd to recovery i hope to be able to do it. But honestly im scared as i take 23mg a day was 46 56mg over a year. But I decided to take myself off them as i knew i had a problem with them i just needed more. Anyway none of this has been easy. Some days I can't believe that I made it through the side effects. Gps need to stop dishing out like sweet s.god help me in the morning.

Shell

Hi another day of hell. Feeling like my body been kicked about. Basically I have been life less for 3 days now. Dizziness can't eat. Can't believe how quickly this drug knock you for 6. Morning s i hate soon as my eyes open it's happening all over again. I hate that feeling of losing control. Anxiety is very high 2 day and night. So many heard aches. Jaw pain is this for real. I feel like a odd one. Just can't pull myself together. Hate the fact i got to sleep knowing that I will be feeling that I am spinning out of control. So hard coming of this bull .... off a diazepams it's crazy and mental rd to recovery i hope to be able to do it. But honestly im scared as i take 23mg a day was 46 56mg over a year. But I decided to take myself off them as i knew i had a problem with them i just needed more. Anyway none of this has been easy. Some days I can't believe that I made it through the side effects. Gps need to stop dishing out like sweet s.god help me in the morning.

Shell

Sorry to hear things are no better ..I did suggest that maybe you were dragging out the withdrawals by going so slowly,perhaps too slowly...please let your doctor know the hell you are going through ..no one should suffer like you are doind

Today has been a bit more better. Doctor told me to stay at this mg until after Christmas. I don't think I am going to slow when you read about other people story s. Ten years I have been taking diazepams and i think waiting to after the new year i will start dropping. Wish me luck im going to need it.

Shell

Hi Shell

To put your mind at ease no your not the only one.  I went 9 months coming off slowly but felt like sh*t the whole time tried everything I did get to zero but just kept feeling worse and worse until i ended up in hospital but I probably came off quicker than you so you prob dont have to worry about seziures.  I don't no what to say to make you feel better.  I think you would be surprised how many are going thru what you are.   It's the hardest thing ive ever tried to do and at the end of 10 -11 months i simply went to my doc and said Ive had it i only have to options, to die or go back on these things, my tolerance had lowered but he put me back on and i was not just saying it to get what i wanted.  No life at all.

Dont drop any more esp before xmas, and dont feel like your weak if I were you I'd actually ask to go on a different benzo perhaps Clonazepam or xanax if you can, I promise you that will give you relief and you can begin to live your life, its a mental disease.  My doc said if you had  a broken arn would you get it operated on and put in a  cast?  I said yes, he said same thing something is wrong in the brain waves and delicate pathways so you need to treat it.  Suicide should not be an option so ask for help.  Diazepam is also not a very strong benzo its just longer acting you need something stronger at present get on to get on  an even keel and go from there but you nee some  relief and your brain and body (womans problem) needs a break.  Don't be ashamed, Doc's put you on this stuff so ask for help and write everythng your experiencing down,you forget once your in there, most Good docs are astonded by how you have been EXISTING only  existing and thats  no life.

Some reductions can take years and should be making you feel better, thats the whole point so im not saying stay on them for the rest of your life buy you need a different and stroger med.  PLS SEE YOUR DOC, you will be so glad you did. if you get a doc that wont help be strong and find another, and let it out the sweating the shaking the headache, no eating, wanting to go the toilet, digestion not working, I had paranoia, agraphoia, dont want to talk to any one, no sleep, badd thoughts and if your exp is like mine the list goes on.  Take care of your self, DO IT BABE NOW feeling good at xmas.

All the very best my dear, let me no how you go if you can.   Your not along and your not crazy.   Nicky.  Once you feel a little better Research it there are better ways of coming off.  xx

 

I see what you mean but that's not how this drug works, if your body is use to it and some people stay on it forever and feel fine.  I really belive shell needs to go get re assesed perhaps get on a different medication.

 

Oh yes, I do not think any person with anxiety or depression should from now on be given any of the benzodiazepam family, therapy other ways indeed, unfortunatley its too late for us, on for 10=40 years and as one Phsyc said to me its like having a massive weight of at least 200 kilograms on your central nervose system and one you start taking that drug out of your body you actually end up with CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPPRESSSION, comonly know as CNS amount the medical industry.  Research that because thats now what you and I have, may shed some light.  Best wishes.

 

Hi my doctor won't put me on anything else. I take 150mg sertreline in the morning and evening 40mg amitripytline she says this help. Once i stop the amitripytline just to see if they helps. And my anxiety went high. I really don't want any more med's as they have bad side effects on me. My doctor always said i am sentenced to drugs. Some days I will get out drve go shopping. And out of the blue I'm back in bed feeling crazy and spinning out. Them good days is what helps me knowing this is how I should be feeling. It's just hitting that brick wall make you realise how much you miss the little things like driving shops just getting out. I wonder how many people feel like this. I have a dairy what I always write in day 2 day. And that helps when you read back. Just a long ride,

shell

Hi Shell,

I do understand and I suppose in the long run to give you something stronger will help you now but you would have to stop within a month.

I know how bad you are feeling but to hear you say you do have the odd good day is so positive. as you no usually you dont so you are coming along, it's just time and the thought of ohhhGod not another day.

Believe me many people out there feel this way or worse, i no that does not help you now but honey you have done a lot of hard hard work and I thinknow you may be getting somewhere.  I really hope your feeling better than last time you wrote.  Try have a good xmax.  Don't no about what Pat said in going too slow I did not think that's how it works but i could be wrong.  I would not drop any more before xmas. Take care hun, Im on sertaline and coming of Clonazepam just a stronger version of valium not as long acting and I'm feeling the same way.  IT'S NOT FUN AT ALL. I really do wish you well.

 

Glad to hear your feeling a little better, such a good sign.  Ten years is a long time so I think you nd your doc are right   GOOD LUCK.  I would not go slower the drug does not work that way, your doc would no that. xxxx

Nicola

 

hey shell

may names paul, mmmmm its a night mare is'nt it, 25mg you say youre stuck on how much were you on before, or if its always been 25mg then it is the usual stumble dose, this is when the physical side of it starts to kick in,the added affect of the mental addiction having to swapp its self over to not wanting valium is what i call "hell fire" theres no messing about with this drug it will turn you upside down a through you about like an empty tracksuit!!!!!!! But theres two ways you go at 25mg up to 30mg to take away the usual susspects, no sleep,pins n needle skin,a liitle but wont last forever youre body will son get used to that dose aswell

i feel youre pain shell really i do and youre right so close to xmas which is stressfull enough, i wouldnt say its the best time,i know this as am doing the same,hopefully for new year, i would contact youre GP no shame in it tell him xactly how and what youre feeling he or she maybe put you in touch with drugs worker,maybe ride out xmas put ah bit possitive thinking in the head about starting youre reduction after the year,maybe take away the stess ah bit and build youre self up to what is comming, you prob know youreself shell you need to come off these horrid little pills,but dont beat youself up about how you are feeling because its the drug not you,ha you prob dont even know who you is right now,good advise from frank reading that book is a great help theres also on called the dr Ashton plan, any book is good take youre mind some where else,make sure you also read up on the right foods and supplements to be taken

plenty protein,Vc,and general fresh good diet,also ah know its hard but dragg youreself out for a walk once a day every day even half hr, you can do this and the rewards will be superb belive me,best wishes and have a happy xmas

Paul