Hilfe bei Dihydrocodein-Sucht!

Hallo zusammen. Kurz gesagt, ich bin süchtig nach DHC. Ich nehme 30-40 pro Tag ein (ja, ich weiß, das ist sehr schlecht). Ich habe den Sprung gewagt und mit meinen Hausärzten gesprochen, die mir die Nummer einer Suchtberatungsstelle in meiner Nähe gegeben haben. Ich habe auch mit ihnen gesprochen. Sie wollten, dass ich sie richtig absetze und nicht von heute auf morgen. Aber jetzt bin ich ausgegangen. Ich habe den Rest heute Morgen genommen. In den letzten zwei Tagen hatte ich begonnen, die Menge zu reduzieren, die ich eingenommen hatte, also bekomme ich bereits Entzugserscheinungen. Im Moment schwitze ich nur ständig. Ich wache nachts auf, friere, bin aber in Schweiß gebadet. Ich weiß, dass es noch viel schlimmer werden wird. Ich habe in zwei Tagen einen Termin bei den Spezialisten, aber nur für eine Erstbewertung. Sie können mir erst in der folgenden Woche einen Termin mit einem ihrer Ärzte geben, um mir möglicherweise etwas zu verschreiben, während ich abstiege. Also werde ich jetzt kalt entgiften und ich habe solche Angst vor dem, was noch kommt. Ich weiß, dass die Entzugserscheinungen schrecklich sind und ich habe auch Fibromyalgie, also wird es noch schwieriger. Ich habe zwei kleine Kinder, eines ist fünf Jahre alt und das andere 15 Monate alt. Mein Partner hat ab Dienstag sieben Tage frei, also in zwei Tagen. Ich habe solche Angst, wie lange ich mich noch schlecht fühlen werde. Ich habe ein paar Monate lang so viele eingenommen, macht es einen Unterschied, wie lange man es eingenommen hat, wie lange die Entzugserscheinungen anhalten? Ich würde gerne von anderen hören, die in dieser Situation waren, bitte x

Hi Hun, I'm in exactly same situation as yourself I also suffer from fibromyalgia, I've no idea what's to come as I've never been cold turkey cause it's sacres me so much, I'm trying to cut down just now and feel awful I'm hot/cold goose bumps agitated sore head 😔 Regret taking this medication for my pain it's put me in a worse situation than I was hope your ok we are here to help xx

Danke für deine Antwort, Hun. Bitte hör nicht abrupt auf! Ich habe es 2 Tage versucht und war die ganze Nacht in Tränen aufgelöst, ich habe 30 Minuten geschlafen und das war's! Ich hatte extrem unruhige Beine und Arme, was mich zum Weinen brachte, ich hatte schwere Durchfälle, Erbrechen, Magenkrämpfe, heiße/kalte Schweißausbrüche, ich rief meinen Hausarzt in Tränen an, der mir für diesen Tag Tabletten gab, da ich später am Tag den Drogenberater sehen sollte und sie herausfinden wollten, was ihr Plan mit mir war. (Ich sehe morgen einen Arzt in der Drogenberatungsstelle) Bis dahin hat mir mein Hausarzt 8 pro Tag gegeben. Ich nahm vorher 30-40 Tabletten am Tag ein und jetzt habe ich auf 2, 3-4 Mal am Tag reduziert und ich bin ehrlich gesagt überrascht, dass es mir nicht so schlecht geht, ich habe mehr oder weniger ständig Kopfschmerzen und ich fühle mich ziemlich müde und erschöpft, aber glaub mir, abruptes Absetzen ist das Schlimmste überhaupt, die ersten 24-48 Stunden sind nicht so schlimm, dann trifft es dich. Ich lief im Haus herum und weinte mir die Augen aus, sagte zu meinem Partner, ich kann das nicht, er versuchte, mich zu beruhigen, und brachte mich dazu, den Hausarzt anzurufen. Jetzt warte ich auf meinen Termin morgen mit dem Drogenarzt, um zu sehen, wie sie mich richtig davon bekommen wollen. Sie haben über die Verschreibung von etwas wie Methadon oder Ähnlichem gesprochen, aber wenn ich es geschafft habe, so viel selbst zu reduzieren, hoffe ich, dass ich nicht verschrieben bekommen muss, um davon runterzukommen, und einfach mit ihnen zusammenarbeiten kann, um es langsam zu reduzieren. Xx

Oh that sounds awful I'm cutting down slowly so i don't feel unwel, my headaches are so bad and just seen that you had the same? Mine was coming right round the back of my neck actually it was all over my head i was crying with the pain. I have so much regrets taking this meds for my pain relief it's good to talk to someone else in my situation as only we would know just how hard it is, thanks for getting back to me Hun it means slot xxxxx

Hope you're both doing a little better. I had to go cold turkey off DHC and it sucked. Let me add my voice in saying if you've been taking it at high dose for awhile it's best to taper off of it slowly, really let your body and brain get used to it. Especially if you have fibromyalgia (me too, sadly) to avoide triggering a flare up. I've also got really bad head and neck problems and was on a lot of meds for years before stopping everything, this wasn't through choice I became allergic to it all but it was the best thing I did and the pain did settle or reach some sort of stable basis. It's worth watching your exhaustion, I'm super tired after and not sure why - taking oodles of B12 which is helping. 

One other thing I'm going to plead...please try not to feel bad about being in this position. Dependency / addiction to medication is nothing to feel ashamed of, nobody chooses to end up like this, life pain and misery and the need to keep going sees us end up here. So many more people are in the same boat, it's just we never talk about it so don't know. Thank goodness for forums like this. 

Fibromyalgia is a suck-y disorder that needs careful management not to irritate it; same too with coming off of all meds, but also DHC. As slow careful taper is the best way if you can at all make it work. Getting help makes it so much easier, you can even get something to 'smooth the edges' of the worst of the withdrawals if they're really bad. 

During one of my allergie-episodes I was on a ward and was struck by how common drug problems are. There was a woman who'd OD'd on paracetamol opposite me and a woman withdrawing from alcohol next to me...(and me detoxing cold turkey off DHC!) and both these women were getting medical help with their symptoms, from a lovely sympathetic doctor too. He really 'got' the misery of the cold turkey withdrawal, that support was lovely! So it is out there, you can get help and support, especially if you take a slower route off the meds, especially helping you adjust afterwards. 

One final note...keep a close eye on your fibro symptoms and don't be afraid to ask for a referral back to your pain / fibro specialist as you may need or benefit from help with it once you're off the DHC. All those 'life style' things we get taught really come into play. It's hard work, but better than the meds if at all possible. 

Good luck, really hope things go well for you :-) 

Hi just wanted to warn you about the dangers if you go to the drug team about what they may prescribe it well may be methadone or subutex i strongly advise not going down that route as these are way more powerful drugs and will wreck your life and probably end up in a detox bed to come off these then the post acute withdrawal which kicks it afterwards is hell believe me as been through it and still battling it 11 years later from my original codeine addiction it's simply madness to prescribe this stuff for codeine addiction please either stick to the taper plan or go cold turkey I so wish I had the subutex / methadone taper is stretched out over years and leave you in a much worse state lots of luck with your journey xx🌼🌹🌼

KatieB in in the same position and the withdrawals are horrible

Can I ask where u get these from??

If u could give me s text I would be so great full O-7-73/6/32:3909

Thanks gem

Hi, Me too. I have severe back problems, fiybromyalgia and going through hell with lower stomach problems. Everything you have all said from the sweating to crying is driving me insane. I'm now taking up to 40 pills a day. The best way is to reduce. Please don't ever go cold turkey. I was taking 4 a day last year and it was hell. It took me over a month of pain and being sick ( sick sometimes up to 8 times a day). My children are older and I haven't told anyone that things are this bad. The doctors in my area are very unsympathetic and they have stopped my prescription  a few times.  One of those times I ended up in hospital  and had to get an anti-sickness injection and a morphine injection.  God knows what I'm doing to myself but it's such a vicious circle. The pain is unbearable hence why I'm in this situation. I can't say it enough, please never go cold turkey. I'm going to start to reduce but the thought of the pain coming back is terrifying me. I hope that made sense.

Hi, im in a similar situation, im only on 8 a day for pain but thought i would cut down to 4. Oh my god, my belly is so bad. Im going straight back on to 8 a day, i heavily depend on these for pain but the only way iv heard to come off them is methadone, i didnt know these tablets were so bloody addictive and had severe withdrawals, i dont want anyone to think im addicted but clearly i am. I know people who take 20 at a time in my area so i always think im fine with 8, im scared for what the future holds if i cant get my hands on these, my doc gives me enough for one month taking 8 a day but i need them, what the hell can i do?

Hi katie 

            you have simply developed a "tolerance" to the DHC and thats why you needed to take so many ....this is common but any decent gp/doctor should know this and shouldnt have allowed it to get this far 

            however reducing is the only sure fire way of stopping the DHC ... however even on reduction you will still feel strange as your body and brain adjust to less opiates  

            all the symptoms your experiencing are classic opiate withdrawal ... i come of the stronger methadone last year and its took me 8 months to feel relatively normal again .. but DHC isnt as strong so your looking at significantly less time ( probally a few months ) 

            in regards to your questions 

1) time you have been taking DHC ... a few months isnt that long ( i took methadone for 8 years ) .... so your probally going to have around 4 days of feeling ill and then it should start to subside 

2) withdrawals ....again around 4 to 7 days ... however you can take some over the counter meds that can help you during this period  

       a) buscopan .... stops stomach cramps and helps really well 

       b) lopramide ... stops the runs that are common during opiate withdrawal 

        another medication that many people use ( but is only avalible on prescription ) is gabapentin .. this is used for nerve pain but the sedating side effect can help with sweats and shakes ...

        also whatever you do dont lay in bed all night sweating ... i found having a hot shower helps and sort of cleanses you ... it will relax you and may allow a few hours sleep 

        im going off personal experience but i hope you get the help you need ... it can be done .. we have all felt the way your feeling at the moment so dont be scared ... it will get better 

            i wish you all the best katie 

Hi Emma,

​Try dropping 1 pill every week. I've managed to get from 40 a day to 18 per day. It will work. Wish you all the best.

Ich nehme DHC 120 mg x 3 pro Tag plus 8x30 mg Dihydrocodein seit 14 Jahren ein. Ich verwende sie gegen Schmerzen zusammen mit Gabapentin. Ein Rat: Machen Sie es nicht von heute auf morgen kalt, das ist schrecklich, ich habe es einmal versucht und nie wieder. Bitten Sie den Hausarzt, Sie über 6 Monate schrittweise zu entwöhnen. Es gibt keine schnelle Lösung mit diesem Medikament. Ich werde es nie absetzen können, aufgrund der Schmerzen, die ich habe. Ich würde es gerne tun, aber kaltentzug nein, Sie sind nicht allein, wie Sie sehen können. Legen Sie einen Plan für sich selbst fest. Der Arzt verschreibt das Medikament, Sie sagen ihnen, was für Sie am besten ist. Viel Glück 😊

Hello KatieBroggy how did you get on? Hope your feeling much better, big hugs xx

Ich wurde jetzt auf Methadon gesetzt und habe seit Beginn des Methadons keine Dihydrocodein mehr angerührt. Ich fühlte mich in der ersten Woche beschissen, während sie meine Dosis langsam erhöhten, und ich habe jetzt eine bequeme Dosis von 30 mg gefunden, also überhaupt nicht high xx

hi Katie x Entschuldigung, dass es spät kommt, ich habe gesehen, dass du vor 5 Monaten gepostet hast x Ich frage mich, wie es dir geht x Ich nehme auch etwa 30 bis 40 pro Tag und ich hatte einen Moment, in dem mir klar wurde, was ich mir selbst antue x Ich habe auch zu viel getrunken und geraucht und bin übergewichtig, also bin ich eine Katastrophe, die darauf wartet zu passieren xx Mein Leben muss sich ändern oder ich werde mich umbringen x Nicht getrunken für eine Woche und nicht geraucht für 3 Tage und meine Medikamente reduziert xx Hoffe, du bist jetzt von ihnen runter xx Ich tue es wirklich Xx

Hey guys I’m in the same situation and I never ever thought for one min I’d be affected by drugs, iv got enough until I go to detox because I have been told not to stop taking them without proper medical staff looking after me, not going to be easy it’s going to be one hell of a ride but if you’re in the same position as me you can go for help, I did, I didn’t think I ever would, it’s totally screwed my head up to the point I don’t want to live anymore, these last few days have been good because I know there’s finally light at the end of the tunnel, if you don’t admit it you won’t get help but if you really want help you won’t be judged, good luck folks it’s a long hard journey but you will get there, iv not even detoxed yet but I won’t go back to this feeling, ever. Good luck here guys xx

Hi Katie,

Really nice to hear some good news that you are going into detox, I'm sure you will never go back after the hell that addiction is. I'm still fighting it every day and I'm getting so tired of it, I even planned doing a detox at home by myself but chickened out last minute, probably not a great idea anyway. I'm trying to find a detox centre that is not hugely expensive, can I ask if you are aware of any groups or organisations that may lead me to an affordable detox centre? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a 5 year old little girl and I really want to be a strong Daddy to contribute to her and my bright future, at this moment in time I cannot see that light at the end of the tunnel and really need some support. Good luck with your detox and look forward to many happy years!

Regards

Dan

 

Hi Dannyb, I’m in Scotland mate so wouldn’t know, we get this service for free , I’m taking 20 a day and now taking other stuff on top of them, im so scared incase I die, I don’t want to die although when I have no pills deaths the best option, hard thing I’ll tell you, are you in the USA?

Hey Emma I'm exactly the same I'm so scared i die, I'm from Scotland also. What a rut to be in x

Hi all,

I’m new. I’m addicted to dihydrocodeine and I hate it. I don’t take as much as what I’ve read others do but i have to take about 5/6 30mg pills with my morning coffee just to feel normal and then i half the rest and take one half maybe every half hour until I’ve taken 8-10 pills in a day. Recently I’ve noticed that I waken about 4-5 am with severe agitation, sweating and I NEED the pills. The pain of withdrawal is awful. Any of you had success beating this and how did u do it? The pain of withdrawal is enough to make me take a few pills so I don’t see a way out of this. I’m nearly 34 and I’m so scared I’m going to die. I drink occasionally Aswell (like once a month) but I’m

Now starting to worry I’m gonna go to sleep and not wake up. Any help or words of encouragement would be appreciated,

Anna