Adrenalina e fibrilação atrial.

It occurs to me that my afib is possibly a lot due to my anxieties and stress. When it started 15 years ago, I had a lot of upheaval and stress in my life. I have been doing some research and find that adrenaline plays a big part in this problem and wondered if others were of an anxious disposition and can put some of their condition down to adrenaline?

I am trying hard to keep control of my feelings to see if this does in fact help.

I've stopped all the outward triggers such as alcohol, chocolate, coffee and I don't smoke. I drink more water and take quite a lot of gentle exercise.

What do others think about the "flight or fight" hormone?

i really believe that - when my bout happened this year i was under a lot of stress with a sick mother and i also came off a lot of drinking at a wedding, I then had the pounding heart that i thought was stress. So i do believe - think about it adrenaline speeds up your heart-and if you have a tendency toward afib your heart just cannot get back into rhythm on its own. Try meditation maybe. Good luck

Olá, queria saber como está seu batimento cardíaco? Você já teve uma crise de fibrilação atrial? Você consegue perceber quando está acontecendo, ou são mais do tipo silenciosas? Medicamentos? Tc :hugs:

I read recently that there is  adrenaline in the injections that dentists use and that it puts some patients back into a bout of AF.

Hi Gwen,

I have mentioned this before, the adrenal glands are a very important part of all of us and are the place the flight or flight hormone is made, and several other important hormones, they are part of the endocrine system, quite often when people present with AF the first thing they do is check their thyroid as an underactive thyroid can cause palpitations but they do not check to see if you may have low adrenal reserve. if the thyroid is stuggling undiagnosed or border line which they don't treat, the adrenals kick in to help it out and eventually they get so tired that they struggle to push out the cortisone needed for the flight or fight reaction we need when we are stressed or frightened that is when I think the heart takes over leaving us with Afib.

L.

I could go on but better shut up now

 

I am retired and was living a life in paradise with no stress whatsoever when I was diagnosed with afib.  This last year has been quite challenging. Just wanted to let u know of my opposite experience to yours. 

Talvez o estresse cause isso ou não. Quando eu estava sob grande estresse, deveria ter aparecido, mas não apareceu. Mais tarde, o estresse pareceu ser quando pode ter contribuído. Acho que é uma acumulação de estresses da vida mais o que quer que seja genético e de estilo de vida que leva. Não acho que ninguém saiba… Eu também faço exercícios leves e tento beber mais água, mas muitas vezes esqueço. Quem realmente sabe! Só podemos controlar o que podemos.

I wasn't implying that adrenaline is everyones reason for afib but If you have low adrenal reserve it doesn't help, the main factor in the onset of mine was an undiagnosed infection in the peracardium. like betty says no one really knows and we all seem to have different triggers.

L.

Hi Azbella, my blood pressure is good 120/60 usually, but I am taking pills for it. I have

passed out due to afib and I have had two ablation and three cardio versions. I am in sinus rhythm since my last ablation in March with occasional bouts of flutter but they don't bother me.

The reason for my comment was just thoughts that came to mind that I thought I would air for responses and thank you for doing that.

Yes, I do consciously think about relaxing when I get stressed and that seems to help.

Thank you for your reply and I hope you are well

Useful to know you can tell your dentist you have this problem and adrenaline increases your risk of flipping into AF, and ask for adrenaline-free anaesthetic!  It exists.  I've had it for years.  It is slightly shorter acting, but they can always top you up if it wears off.  I've not found that necessary even for an extraction, so you should be ok

Same applied is you have any small surgery eg lumps removed, stitches etc that need a local - ask for adrenaline free 

That's very interesting Linda, because I do suffer from hypothyroidism and since I've been on heart drugs my TSH has been all over the place and difficult to keep stable.

I've recently been taken off Bisoprolol and will stop Flecainid in November, so I was just mulling over what I can perhaps do to prevent afib raising it's ugly head again in the future.

Thank you so much for your reply and what you say makes sense xx

Hi Suzanne, that just goes to prove a point that not all afibs are caused by stress.

Strange isn't it? I wonder if, one day, they will ever treat the cause rather than the effects?

I pray it happens in my lifetime since the negative affects from the meds can be pretty brutal. Also frustrating, there doesn't seem to be one clear cut treatment. It greatly varies from patient to patient and doctor to doctor.

Meu marido tem fibrilação atrial e fizeram um monitor Holter de 48 horas e um ultrassom da tireoide. Durante o monitoramento, eles ligaram para ele para ver se ele estava bem, ele teve uma corrida de quatro horas de fibrilação atrial enquanto estava dormindo. Quando ele foi ao pronto-socorro, deram-lhe cardizem por via intravenosa e isso ajudou, mas ele simplesmente não se sente bem e está cansado todos os dias, perdeu 29 libras, mas continua fumando... é assustador...

that is very interesting because i have had a lot of dental work done recently! i will make note of that- thank you Derek!

 

It does seem a bit haphazard from what I am reading. Perhaps many of us are so used to stressing over things that we don't realise we are doing it. My husband, who is extremely laid back and unfazed, is astonished at how easily I get wound up and we often argue about how not wound up I am!.

Genetics probably do come into it but because all of my family are no longer with us, I have no one to ask. They mainly died of heart related disease, so who knows?

Há muitos pontos interessantes aqui para mim. Embora eu ache que a FA pode ter muitas causas, o estresse desempenhou um papel na minha história. Para mim, começou no final de um período estressante, incidentemente, em que parecia lidar bem com isso, ou seja, não estava externamente estressado. Após minha primeira ablação, tive um grande problema com acordar à noite com FA - as suprarrenais foram mencionadas na época e eu li sobre elas, e parecia se encaixar no meu perfil, mas um exame indicou que não era um problema. Minha tireoide é testada sempre que vejo um médico e apresento meus sintomas; já fui tratado por tireoide pelo NHS e depois não fui tratado pelo NHS, sendo uma daquelas pessoas classificadas como de limite. Também suspeito do nervo vago, mas novamente, quando menciono isso, a profissão médica apenas me olha e diz NÃO. Uma ideia brilhante tentar eliminar os possíveis gatilhos. Voltando ao que você pergunta especificamente - NÃO, não sou de disposição ansiosa externamente, mas com os medicamentos me sinto como uma pessoa diferente porque estou tão fraco e mal, e, portanto, perdi a confiança em sair longe, mas para suportar o que faço todos os dias, também acho que devo ter sacos de confiança, coragem e determinação.

Hi Kate,

As you say we are all different, some 20 years ago I was thought to have Addisons disease an adrenal gland problem like you tests came back inconclusive,, the microbiologist that did the tests told me just because we can't find it doesn't mean it isn't there this condition mimics many others and quite often isn't found till years later, I have an appointment in early december to see an endoctinologist as several of my recent blood tests have come back with very low sodium and my GP suspects and adreanal problem, I will let you all know the outcome.

when doing some research recently I found an article that said Bisoporol can hide thyroid symptoms.

Keep your chin up Kate, as you say the meds we have to take make us feel worse than the condition but where would we be without them.

Stress is definitely a trigger for me.  On the other hand, on several occasions while AFibbing, I've had a sudden stress --  being startled or alarmed (e.g. imminent car crash) cause me to revert to NSR.

I stumbled on this thread while searching the internet for connections between adrenaline and cardio-inversion.