Rush d'adrénaline en m'endormant, cela dure depuis 8 ans maintenant. Qu'est-ce que c'est ?

Signes et symptômes
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Bonjour à tous,

J'espère vraiment que quelqu'un pourra m'aider sur ce forum. Dès que je suis sur le point de m'endormir, j'ai une sorte de "rush" qui se déclenche au centre de mon cerveau et de mon cœur. J'ai alors de l'adrénaline qui circule (ce n'est pas grave, mais assez pour me garder éveillé comme si j'avais bu du café). Je me sens survolté et je n'arrive pas à dormir. Je prends souvent de la mélatonine qui aide parfois, mais pas toujours.

Les médecins veulent juste me donner des antidépresseurs et des somnifères ! Je ne suis pas déprimé et je ne veux pas prendre de somnifères car ils me font me sentir mal le lendemain et je ne veux pas juste m'engourdir, je veux vraiment trouver la cause de ce problème.

Cela dure depuis 8 ans et cela affecte vraiment ma vie. Quelqu'un peut-il me dire ce qui se passe ? Je suis une personne très en bonne santé. Je ne fume pas. Je bois à peine et je mange bien et je fais de l'exercice, j'ai aussi une faible pression artérielle.

Si quelqu'un peut me dire ce que c'est et/ou quoi faire à ce sujet, je serais tellement reconnaissant car je me sens très seul dans cette situation, c'est presque pire d'être passé d'un médecin à un thérapeute à un guérisseur et de n'avoir aucune réponse que d'être diagnostiqué avec quelque chose !

Quelqu'un peut-il vraiment m'aider car j'ai épuisé toutes mes idées et j'ai passé 8 ans à essayer de me sentir mieux et c'est toujours la même chose, j'ai juste accepté cela mais c'est une façon de vivre merdique. Toute aide serait tellement appréciée si vous prenez le temps de lire ceci.

Merci smile

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Quelle réponse stupide et pessimiste, Apu.

Ruthie, je pense que cette sensation agaçante de "se réveiller soi-même" juste au moment de s'endormir a été ressentie par à peu près tout le monde, moi y compris. Maintenant, admettons, je ne me souviens pas avoir entendu parler d'un cas durant 8 ans. Cela vient et s'en va généralement. Quand vous dites 8 ans, est-ce en continu ou périodiquement ?

Ce que vous traversez n'est pas nouveau ou inhabituel pour un insomniacque, seulement pour les dormeurs réguliers. Donc vous n'êtes pas seul. Il est possible, cependant, que vos médecins n'aient jamais entendu parler d'une telle chose.

Pouvez-vous consulter un médecin spécialisé dans le sommeil ?

Pratiquez-vous la TCC, l'hygiène du sommeil, et tout cela ?

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Bonjour Edgar,

Merci de prendre le temps. Pour répondre à vos questions..

C'est sans arrêt. Les médecins disent simplement qu'ils ne savent pas ce que c'est. J'ai demandé à consulter un spécialiste du sommeil, mais le médecin a dit qu'ils ne s'occupent que de l'apnée du sommeil et je ne pense pas que ce soit ça. Je n'ai pas cherché à consulter un spécialiste du sommeil privé car cela est probablement très coûteux.

La seule chose que je n'ai pas essayée, c'est la TCC. Je pourrais essayer, mais j'entends des avis mitigés.. Je pratique une bonne hygiène de sommeil, oui.

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Eh bien, c'est décevant d'entendre que les spécialistes du sommeil ne vont pas au-delà de l'apnée. Comme si c'était le seul problème au monde.

Je dois admettre que je ne suis jamais allé chez un spécialiste du sommeil moi-même, car mes "réveils automatiques" vont et viennent. Ils sont généralement liés à l'anxiété concernant quelque chose d'important prévu pour le lendemain, mais souvent, c'est simplement être trop conscient du sommeil.

Je crois vraiment que toutes les insomnies commencent comme un problème ponctuel, puis vous devenez conscient du fait que s'endormir peut être difficile, et ensuite votre esprit n'oublie jamais ce fait.

Ma pire expérience avec l'insomnie était simplement une présentation importante à l'université après laquelle je suis devenu trop conscient du sommeil, anticipant des problèmes nuit après nuit. J'ai dormi horriblement pendant presque un an, mais j'ai finalement surmonté cela.

Maintenant, mes problèmes sont différents, je m'endors généralement sans problème chaque nuit (ceci est en grande partie dû au fait que je ne dors pas pendant la journée, donc quand vient le soir, je suis assez épuisé), mais je rares fois j'ai les "sursauts", comme je les appelle.

Je voudrais pouvoir vous donner un conseil utile, mais je n'ai aucune idée de comment résoudre ce problème. Personne ne le sait vraiment, je suppose. Dans tous les cas, la TCC vaut le coup d'essayer, c'est aussi, d'une certaine manière, une façon de vivre merdique (j'aime l'expression, au passage), mais lorsqu'il s'agit de choisir entre la peste et le choléra, je suppose que c'est le moindre de deux maux. Et si cela fonctionne, alors peut-être qu'avec le temps vous pourrez atteindre des niveaux normaux de sommeil.

Mon Dieu, j'ai vraiment écrit un essai ici.

Tenez bon, quoi qu'il en soit!

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Good job edgar

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Merci Edgar. J'apprécie vos conseils sincères. Je vais me renseigner sur certaines thérapies cognitivo-comportementales et vous tiendrai informé smile

Toutes mes meilleures pensées

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Hi Ruthie143, I experience the same thing, recently started happening after I stopped taking over the counter sleep aids to help me sleep. It's as if I forgot to help myself to fall asleep... With stress, anxiety, fear. I feel like my issue is fear. I fear I won't be able to get to sleep. And like you, once you go through the suffering, it's like a PSTD, and you keep reliving it. That's how it seems to me and I'm not sure this helps you. I signed up because of your post because I am scared of this too. I drink herbal teas and have melatonin but it doesn't help much. It feels chemical to me. It feels like adrenaline pulsing through me when I know I need to relax and get to sleep for my health. I need a good amount of sleep and it has been hard to manage. I know I have a lot of stressful things going on in my life with my health and I have a lot of fear with the unknown. I was feeling it again tonight like I have every night and I googled my symptoms, saw your post and wanted to join so I could reply. I am feeling better some so thank you for sharing. I don't think I practice good sleep hygiene, it's as if I have self destructive behavior in a way... Hard to put down the phone, etc. It feels like it all stems from the fear then I have to deal with the consequences of my actions (or thoughts). I am trying to control myself better, my mind and choices before bed, but sometimes it's hard. I wake up so tired and somehow get energy from consuming veggies, fruits, herbal teas. I don't drink any stimulants at all and am off all daily meds (I was on Lexapro but got off when it wasn't helping any longer). Thank you for listening, I hope you find some peace and rest tonight and every night. I wish I could help you more. Sweet dreams.

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I have this problem for a week now! I can’t sleep at night and I lie awake for hours. Sometimes I go to sleep but last night I just couldn’t fall asleep at all. Just one hour or so but I had this horrible dream that I was choking and I woke up and couldn’t sleep. I tried to sleep again but everytime I started to fall asleep my adrenaline rush come over and I woke up. I don’t know what to do I feel crazy thinking about sleep all day long. And I started to fear my bed and sleeping. I can’t concentrate on nothing alse but sleep. I can’t work I don’t want to go out with my boyfriend or my girl friends. Even the tv is not distracting me. I sometimes take helex a pill for relaxation that helped me the privious time I had this, but is not helping me now. Like my body is relexed but not my mind. I don’t even have apetit I just feel tired. Give me some advanceon what to do. I can’t live like this. I even have anxiety attacks where my hole body is shaking. Im feeling like im going crazy and I feel no one can help me sad

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I understand what you mean. Someone recommended a book by Sasha Stephens called the effortless sleep method so I bought that and just started it, some say it helped them a lot, maybe worth a shot. It is hard, I know. I feel like I am going to die any minute because my body can't take any more. Please hang in there, I'll be thinking of you.

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I am also facing sleep problems.

My neighborhood lady has given some inspiration to live without sleep.Her husband died 15 years back.Ever since her sleep deteriorated.Every night she closes her eyes,opens in the morning.Literally no sleep from 15 years.Her eyes are normal,no dark circles.She is a working woman.Her days are fresh.She just accepted her situation and living cool.So ,lack of sleep do not kill us.Stay strong.

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Sounds like anxiety/adrenal fatique. I reccomened taking some valerian root, or drinking some herbal tea before bed to calm you down. 

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Bonjour Elizabeth, je viens de revenir en ligne maintenant après ne pas avoir regardé cela depuis longtemps. Votre message était touchant et j'espère que vous arrivez à dormir ? Je suis toujours bloquée mais je pense qu'il s'agit probablement de fatigue surrénalienne et d'énergie de combat-fuite-survie bloquée en mode ON. Je dois juste trouver comment tout éteindre. Je vous ferai savoir si j'obtiens des réponses smile Je vous souhaite un profond repos paisible...

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Salut Nathan,

 

Je pense que tu as raison, je ne sais tout simplement pas comment faire mieux. J'ai tout essayé, les remèdes à base de plantes, tu peux nommer, j'ai tout essayé.

 

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HI Ruthie,

I have always had this at times of stress/anxiety but have it much worse atm after a period of prolonged stress related insomnia/coming off Benzo's.. so yes my understanding is that it is essentially stress/anxiety related.. "The Sleep Book" also talks about this phenomena.. for me right now it comes and goes.. and the more stressed/anxious I am about it the more it stays.. so I try to be very accepting about it.. control my reaction when it happens, i.e. take some deep breaths, tell myself it's no big deal and even smile at it.. reacting to it in a catastrophic "oh no!!" way just makes it worse.. I am not sure how old you are?? but as we get older our cortisol levels tend to arise making our nervous system more trigger happy.. there are various things we can do to reduce calm our nervous system such as yoga/meditation etc.. black/green tea.. I would google how to reduce cortisol/adrenaline.. magnesium might help also.. it's a horrible thing to have but I think it can be managed smile

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HI Ruthie,

I have always had this at times of stress/anxiety but have it much worse atm after a period of prolonged stress related insomnia/coming off Benzo's.. so yes my understanding is that it is essentially stress/anxiety related.. "The Sleep Book" also talks about this phenomena.. for me right now it comes and goes.. and the more stressed/anxious I am about it the more it stays.. so I try to be very accepting about it.. control my reaction when it happens, i.e. take some deep breaths, tell myself it's no big deal and even smile at it.. reacting to it in a catastrophic "oh no!!" way just makes it worse.. I am not sure how old you are?? but as we get older our cortisol levels tend to arise making our nervous system more trigger happy.. and I agree that adrenaline fatigue could be an issues.. there are various things we can do to reduce calm our nervous system such as yoga/meditation etc.. black/green tea.. I would google how to reduce cortisol/adrenaline.. magnesium might help also.. it's a horrible thing to have but I think it can be managed smile

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I have this problem at times and have found that the betablocker Propranalol is very helpful. It blocks the effects of excess adrenaline. 10 mg usually does it for me.

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I've been having the same problem for 5 weeks now it's not just falling asleep it's while I'm asleep and I can't lay in in the morning either. It's like i'm fast asleep and then suddenly have an adrenaline Rush over and over again that wakes me up constantly.

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Hi All,

I get the same thing, had it off and on over a year now, falling asleep and i get a wave of adrenaline come over me, sensation in my chest, sometimes a body movement with it, other times just the wave of adrenaline, it can happen multiple times through the night until morning arrives and I'm truly exhausted.  I have been to the doctors about it and he said its basically a mini panic attack thats happening between being awake and drifting to sleep.  I think it happens to me due to two things. Firstly, underlying anxiety about something (I have GAD anyway but that is getting better) something playing on your mind that your anxious about but maybe not so on the surface.  Also, once it happens a few times I think my brain gets the wrong idea and thinks that me falling asleep must be dangerous! So, as a result keeps doing it to keep me awake just in case, I think that is a large part of it as well, once the cycle begins its very hard to break it that very same night, the next night might be fine, but the night its happening it can be hard to get yourself out of the cycle.   

Going to bed early has helped me, not watching films late at night, no email or work after 6.30pm, we have a dog now(last few months) and she helped me so much with my anxiety and everything, she has made me get out more, push myself more and she distracts me from everything else, she has become my best friend. 

Also, I found this advice on another website or perhaps here, its sounds crazy but works to some extent, just talk out your issues or thoughts with yourself during the day and convince yourself that everything is fine or will be fine or that whatever it is you will find a way to come that does not mean the end of the world.  Do this its almost like talking to your sub conscious mind and amazingly for me it has worked a number of times, not every time but quite a few.  Oh, no alcohol, drugs, cigs, coffee etc before bed obviously. I am 40 and have had this for over a year.

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Pretty much everything that Mark said.

I get this adrenaline rush when falling asleep from time to time. It is sometimes triggered by anxiety about something I havent fully worked out in ny mind. Normally I can figure out what it is thats making me anxious, but its difficult to get to sleep before 3am when this happens. I find that it also happens when Ive been dozing off on the couch for a while trying to keep myself awake for a show or something. Alcohol makes it worse.

Some rules I follow when this happens: Do not remain in bed. Doing so will only make things worse. Go somewhere else and do something else like read, play a game, watch a movie youve seen 10 times... Remaining in bed for longer than 20 minutes is just going to make you more anxious. Do not become frustrated. Doing so will only make it happen again the next night. Try and go to bed when youre feeling sleepy. Staying up past that might trigger the reflex. And try and use your bed only for sleep (and maybe 1 other thing). Dont read in bed, watch tv in bed, etc.. Lastly try to give yourself an hour before bed of just nothing, or as little mind input as possible.

Hope that helps. When all else fails, just dont get frustrated. Just dose up on the melatonin early the next night and dont think about it.

Oh, and exercise daily.

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HI Ruthie,

Did you ever find answers? I am facing the same thing. It came on out of nowhere too. Please help.... I’m desperate. sad