Sensação de adrenalina ao adormecer, acontece há 8 anos agora. O que é isso?

Oi a todos,

Eu realmente espero que alguém possa me ajudar neste fórum. Assim que estou prestes a pegar no sono, sinto uma espécie de "corrida" que se desencadeia no centro do meu cérebro e do meu coração. Então, tenho adrenalina bombeando (não é grave, mas o suficiente para me manter acordado como se eu tivesse tomado café). Sinto-me adrenalizado e não consigo dormir. Muitas vezes, então, recorro à melatonina, que às vezes ajuda, mas nem sempre.

Os médicos só querem me dar antidepressivos e comprimidos para dormir! Eu não estou deprimido e não quero tomar comprimidos para dormir, pois eles me fazem sentir mal no dia seguinte e eu não quero apenas me entorpecer, quero chegar à raiz do problema para saber o que está causando isso.

Isso já dura 8 anos e está realmente afetando minha vida. Alguém pode me dizer o que está acontecendo? Sou uma pessoa muito saudável. Não fumo. Mal bebo e me alimento bem e faço exercícios, além de ter pressão arterial baixa.

Se alguém puder me dizer o que é isso e/ou o que fazer a respeito, eu ficaria muito grato, pois estou muito sozinho nisso, pois é quase pior ser passado de médico para terapeuta para curandeiro e não ter respostas do que ser diagnosticado com algo!

Alguém pode realmente me ajudar, pois esgotei minhas ideias e passei 8 anos tentando melhorar e ainda está do mesmo jeito, eu apenas aceitei isso, mas é uma forma ruim de existir. Qualquer ajuda seria muito apreciada se você tiver tempo para ler isso.

Obrigado smile

Que resposta boba e pessimista, Apu.

Ruthie, acho que essa sensação irritante de "acordar a si mesmo" justo quando você está prestes a dormir já foi sentida por praticamente todo mundo, incluindo eu mesma. Agora, concedo que não me lembro de ter ouvido falar de um caso que dure 8 anos. Geralmente vem e vai. Quando você diz 8 anos, é sem parar ou periodicamente?

O que você está passando não é novo ou incomum para um insone, apenas para quem dorme regularmente. Então você não está sozinha. É possível, no entanto, que seus médicos nunca tenham ouvido falar de algo assim.

Você consegue ir a um médico que se especializa em sono?

Você pratica TCC, higiene do sono e tudo mais?

Oi Edgar,

Obrigado por dedicar seu tempo. Para responder às suas perguntas..

É sem parar. Os médicos só dizem que não sabem o que é. Perguntei sobre ir a um especialista em sono, mas o médico só disse que eles só olham para a apneia do sono e não acho que seja isso. Não procurei um especialista em sono particular, pois provavelmente é muito caro.

A única coisa que não tentei é a TCC. Eu poderia tentar isso, mas ouço relatos mistos.. Eu pratico boa higiene do sono, sim.

Bem, é decepcionante ouvir que os especialistas em sono não vão além da apneia. Como se fosse a única reclamação do mundo.

Tenho que admitir que nunca fui a um especialista em sono, pois meus "acordares automáticos" vêm e vão. Eles geralmente estão ligados à ansiedade sobre algo importante que está marcado para o dia seguinte, mas muitas vezes é simplesmente estar muito consciente do sono.

Realmente acredito que todas as insônias começam como um problema pontual, depois você se torna consciente do fato de que dormir pode ser difícil, e então sua mente nunca esquece esse fato.

Minha pior experiência com insônia foi simplesmente uma apresentação importante na faculdade após a qual fiquei muito consciente do sono, antecipando problemas noite após noite. Dormi horrorosamente por quase um ano, mas eventualmente superei.

Agora meus problemas são diferentes, geralmente adormeço sem problema todas as noites (isso tem muito a ver com o fato de que não durmo durante o dia, então quando chega a noite estou bastante exausto), mas raramente tenho os "sobressaltos", como os chamo.

Gostaria de poder te dar algum conselho útil, mas não tenho ideia de como resolver isso. Ninguém realmente tem, acho. De qualquer forma, a TCC vale a pena tentar, também é, de certa forma, uma maneira ruim de viver (adoro a expressão, aliás), mas quando se escolhe entre a pedra e a place dura, acho que é o menor de dois males. E se funcionar, talvez com o tempo você possa chegar a níveis normais de sono.

Caramba, realmente escrevi um ensaio aqui.

Agüente firme, de qualquer maneira!

Good job edgar

Obrigado, Edgar. Aprecio seu conselho sincero. Vou verificar algumas TCC e te aviso smile

Todo o melhor

Hi Ruthie143, I experience the same thing, recently started happening after I stopped taking over the counter sleep aids to help me sleep. It's as if I forgot to help myself to fall asleep... With stress, anxiety, fear. I feel like my issue is fear. I fear I won't be able to get to sleep. And like you, once you go through the suffering, it's like a PSTD, and you keep reliving it. That's how it seems to me and I'm not sure this helps you. I signed up because of your post because I am scared of this too. I drink herbal teas and have melatonin but it doesn't help much. It feels chemical to me. It feels like adrenaline pulsing through me when I know I need to relax and get to sleep for my health. I need a good amount of sleep and it has been hard to manage. I know I have a lot of stressful things going on in my life with my health and I have a lot of fear with the unknown. I was feeling it again tonight like I have every night and I googled my symptoms, saw your post and wanted to join so I could reply. I am feeling better some so thank you for sharing. I don't think I practice good sleep hygiene, it's as if I have self destructive behavior in a way... Hard to put down the phone, etc. It feels like it all stems from the fear then I have to deal with the consequences of my actions (or thoughts). I am trying to control myself better, my mind and choices before bed, but sometimes it's hard. I wake up so tired and somehow get energy from consuming veggies, fruits, herbal teas. I don't drink any stimulants at all and am off all daily meds (I was on Lexapro but got off when it wasn't helping any longer). Thank you for listening, I hope you find some peace and rest tonight and every night. I wish I could help you more. Sweet dreams.

I have this problem for a week now! I can’t sleep at night and I lie awake for hours. Sometimes I go to sleep but last night I just couldn’t fall asleep at all. Just one hour or so but I had this horrible dream that I was choking and I woke up and couldn’t sleep. I tried to sleep again but everytime I started to fall asleep my adrenaline rush come over and I woke up. I don’t know what to do I feel crazy thinking about sleep all day long. And I started to fear my bed and sleeping. I can’t concentrate on nothing alse but sleep. I can’t work I don’t want to go out with my boyfriend or my girl friends. Even the tv is not distracting me. I sometimes take helex a pill for relaxation that helped me the privious time I had this, but is not helping me now. Like my body is relexed but not my mind. I don’t even have apetit I just feel tired. Give me some advanceon what to do. I can’t live like this. I even have anxiety attacks where my hole body is shaking. Im feeling like im going crazy and I feel no one can help me sad

I understand what you mean. Someone recommended a book by Sasha Stephens called the effortless sleep method so I bought that and just started it, some say it helped them a lot, maybe worth a shot. It is hard, I know. I feel like I am going to die any minute because my body can't take any more. Please hang in there, I'll be thinking of you.

I am also facing sleep problems.

My neighborhood lady has given some inspiration to live without sleep.Her husband died 15 years back.Ever since her sleep deteriorated.Every night she closes her eyes,opens in the morning.Literally no sleep from 15 years.Her eyes are normal,no dark circles.She is a working woman.Her days are fresh.She just accepted her situation and living cool.So ,lack of sleep do not kill us.Stay strong.

Sounds like anxiety/adrenal fatique. I reccomened taking some valerian root, or drinking some herbal tea before bed to calm you down. 

Oi Elizabeth, acabei de voltar online agora depois de não olhar isso há muito tempo. Sua mensagem foi tocante e espero que você esteja conseguindo dormir? Ainda estou em um beco sem saída, mas acho que provavelmente é fadiga adrenal e energia de luta ou fuga de sobrevivência presa no modo LIGADO. Só preciso descobrir como desligar tudo. Vou te avisar se eu conseguir alguma resposta smile Desejo-lhe um descanso profundo e pacífico...

Oi Nathan,

Eu acho que você está certo, eu só não sei como melhorar. Eu já tentei tudo de ervas, você pode imaginar, eu já tentei.

 

HI Ruthie,

I have always had this at times of stress/anxiety but have it much worse atm after a period of prolonged stress related insomnia/coming off Benzo's.. so yes my understanding is that it is essentially stress/anxiety related.. "The Sleep Book" also talks about this phenomena.. for me right now it comes and goes.. and the more stressed/anxious I am about it the more it stays.. so I try to be very accepting about it.. control my reaction when it happens, i.e. take some deep breaths, tell myself it's no big deal and even smile at it.. reacting to it in a catastrophic "oh no!!" way just makes it worse.. I am not sure how old you are?? but as we get older our cortisol levels tend to arise making our nervous system more trigger happy.. there are various things we can do to reduce calm our nervous system such as yoga/meditation etc.. black/green tea.. I would google how to reduce cortisol/adrenaline.. magnesium might help also.. it's a horrible thing to have but I think it can be managed smile

HI Ruthie,

I have always had this at times of stress/anxiety but have it much worse atm after a period of prolonged stress related insomnia/coming off Benzo's.. so yes my understanding is that it is essentially stress/anxiety related.. "The Sleep Book" also talks about this phenomena.. for me right now it comes and goes.. and the more stressed/anxious I am about it the more it stays.. so I try to be very accepting about it.. control my reaction when it happens, i.e. take some deep breaths, tell myself it's no big deal and even smile at it.. reacting to it in a catastrophic "oh no!!" way just makes it worse.. I am not sure how old you are?? but as we get older our cortisol levels tend to arise making our nervous system more trigger happy.. and I agree that adrenaline fatigue could be an issues.. there are various things we can do to reduce calm our nervous system such as yoga/meditation etc.. black/green tea.. I would google how to reduce cortisol/adrenaline.. magnesium might help also.. it's a horrible thing to have but I think it can be managed smile

I have this problem at times and have found that the betablocker Propranalol is very helpful. It blocks the effects of excess adrenaline. 10 mg usually does it for me.

I've been having the same problem for 5 weeks now it's not just falling asleep it's while I'm asleep and I can't lay in in the morning either. It's like i'm fast asleep and then suddenly have an adrenaline Rush over and over again that wakes me up constantly.

Hi All,

I get the same thing, had it off and on over a year now, falling asleep and i get a wave of adrenaline come over me, sensation in my chest, sometimes a body movement with it, other times just the wave of adrenaline, it can happen multiple times through the night until morning arrives and I'm truly exhausted.  I have been to the doctors about it and he said its basically a mini panic attack thats happening between being awake and drifting to sleep.  I think it happens to me due to two things. Firstly, underlying anxiety about something (I have GAD anyway but that is getting better) something playing on your mind that your anxious about but maybe not so on the surface.  Also, once it happens a few times I think my brain gets the wrong idea and thinks that me falling asleep must be dangerous! So, as a result keeps doing it to keep me awake just in case, I think that is a large part of it as well, once the cycle begins its very hard to break it that very same night, the next night might be fine, but the night its happening it can be hard to get yourself out of the cycle.   

Going to bed early has helped me, not watching films late at night, no email or work after 6.30pm, we have a dog now(last few months) and she helped me so much with my anxiety and everything, she has made me get out more, push myself more and she distracts me from everything else, she has become my best friend. 

Also, I found this advice on another website or perhaps here, its sounds crazy but works to some extent, just talk out your issues or thoughts with yourself during the day and convince yourself that everything is fine or will be fine or that whatever it is you will find a way to come that does not mean the end of the world.  Do this its almost like talking to your sub conscious mind and amazingly for me it has worked a number of times, not every time but quite a few.  Oh, no alcohol, drugs, cigs, coffee etc before bed obviously. I am 40 and have had this for over a year.

Pretty much everything that Mark said.

I get this adrenaline rush when falling asleep from time to time. It is sometimes triggered by anxiety about something I havent fully worked out in ny mind. Normally I can figure out what it is thats making me anxious, but its difficult to get to sleep before 3am when this happens. I find that it also happens when Ive been dozing off on the couch for a while trying to keep myself awake for a show or something. Alcohol makes it worse.

Some rules I follow when this happens: Do not remain in bed. Doing so will only make things worse. Go somewhere else and do something else like read, play a game, watch a movie youve seen 10 times... Remaining in bed for longer than 20 minutes is just going to make you more anxious. Do not become frustrated. Doing so will only make it happen again the next night. Try and go to bed when youre feeling sleepy. Staying up past that might trigger the reflex. And try and use your bed only for sleep (and maybe 1 other thing). Dont read in bed, watch tv in bed, etc.. Lastly try to give yourself an hour before bed of just nothing, or as little mind input as possible.

Hope that helps. When all else fails, just dont get frustrated. Just dose up on the melatonin early the next night and dont think about it.

Oh, and exercise daily.

HI Ruthie,

Did you ever find answers? I am facing the same thing. It came on out of nowhere too. Please help.... I’m desperate. sad