[quote:83de392615=\"Anonymous\"][quote:83de392615=\"Mikethorpe1968\"]Hi everyone
well after dose 2 last night been feeling really low today with bad thoughts can't seem to get rid of the thoughts at all became really tearful (this is not me at all to cry) this morning sitting in the car on the way to in laws.
can't bring myself to tell my wife about my bad thoughts as i know it would upset her.
not sure if it's the mirt doinging it or the withdrawal from flu ????
mike
After being on mirt for 2 weeks (started on 15 then incresed to 30 the following week) I have now taken myself off of them. I know you are not ment to do this but I felt I was going to harm myself. These tablets have put me back 2 years, I have been sucidal, cried more than I ever had, whole bady feeling like lead. I do not want to feel like this so have given up on them. My aunt is on them and they have done wonders for her. Shows tablets work different ways on people.
I do feel a lot better today, i know its only been a day but I feel alot happier. Still have a bad temper but hope this will go too.
Please tell your wife how you feel as the saying 'problem halved etc: I am on my own and would love to be able to tell someone how I feel, so do share how you feel. My concentration is still a bit sketchy, but will up-dated again to let you know how I am getting on. take care.
Thank you Mike for keeping me updated. My partner has been on them for three days now and he is a completely different person and im not saying for the good....moody, deep, dark, argumentitive with me....Im struggling but this isnt about my feelings. I want to help him and he has decided to come off them and find another route. he says he feels worse. As for sleep pattern, he will take a tablet say 11pm and will stay awake until up to 3am...then sleep though the day. Maybe an alternative remedy, or thought pattern might help
Keep me posted Mike and tell your wife because a problem shared, she will support you!!!
take care
C
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Hi Pumpkin
after dose 3 woke up still tired but not as bad as the first few days still took a few hrs to get going, but a much better day for me but is still early days for me but i will still keep you updated.
just a suggestion perhaps if your husband was to take his tablet earlier it may help rather than leaving it so late just a thought.
Mike X
[quote:5ce1352d15=\"Mikethorpe1968\"]Hi Pumpkin
after dose 3 woke up still tired but not as bad as the first few days still took a few hrs to get going, but a much better day for me but is still early days for me but i will still keep you updated.
just a suggestion perhaps if your husband was to take his tablet earlier it may help rather than leaving it so late just a thought.
Mike X
Hi Mike,
He's decided to stop the Mirt and now been prescribed Prozac. So heaven knows how things will be now...
I hope Mirt for you works and you feel better with each day!
C
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Hi,
Just picked up a first prescription of Mirt myself having been on 40mg Fluoxetine for 3 months. A bit anxious of the side effects as the fluoxetine already makes me feel lethargic! We'll see how it goes...have to stop taking prozac for 2 days before i start the mirtazapine anyway.
All anti depressants have a few weeks before your body becomes used to them chemically so it will be a struggle until you hit that point...the prozac took 4 weeks before it had any positive effects on me but unfortunately it accompanied some nasty side effects which i am going to try and eliminate.
Best of luck.
Been on these for just over a week now and I have real problems staying awake let alone going to sleep!!! For example today I woke up at 10am stayed awake for an amazing 45 minutes and fell asleep watching TV.... then woke up at 3pm, stayed awake for about an hour and then fell asleep for another 5 hours!!! I was on fluoxitine for about 6 months, they worked well for the first 4 but then they just seemed to stop working... and now these things work but I am so lethargic, cant be bothered with moving and I do seem to eat a hell of a lot more.... So its interesting to read all the experiences that other people have had, but I am going to the doc and see if there's something that doesn't make me act like a walking zombie.
I've been on Mirtazapine for over 4 weeks now, I started out on 15 and am now on 30mg. I switched to these after a 6 week period on Citalopram.
I've been suffering from fairly serious depression for months now and massive insomnia. I'd be lucky if I got any sleep at all for days, even weeks on end.
The citalopram seemed to make me feel a bit better, but did nothing for my sleep patterns, so any positives were soon eradicated by the insomnia. Even combined with Temazapam or Zoplicone.
Now I'm on the Mirtazapine and all I seem to do is sleep. I'm probably getting an average of 12-13 hours a night. I take the pill at about 10:30 and go to bed around an hour later. Then I'm virtually unconscious until midday, sometimes even 1pm. Then even when I'm awake, I'm in a daze and not really with it.
Whilst the sleeping is nice for a change it's becoming more of a problem. I get to see about 3 hours of daylight, which is quite frankly depressing. It's also not really making me feel any better. I'm very moody, withdrawn and very sedate. I've started eating too much too, so really need to keep an eye on that.
I'm struggling to find any positives at the moment. I've read that higher doses tend to mitigate the sedative effect. I don't know whether to try and get off them and try something else, or get the higher dose and see if it helps at all.
Anyone had a similar experience?
Hi Jon
You're not alone. Mirtazapine does tend to knock you out at first. I had a similar experience with depression - the insomnia was a key feature for me, going days on end with no sleep, taking triple doses of zopiclone and temazepam and them not touching me. The home treatment team couldn't believe it because I am a slight 8stone female and nothing was knocking me out.
I found it hard to tell where the depression ended and the insomnia began in the end... the symptoms of both are quite similar - poor concentration, feelings of hopelessness, low mood, irritability, exhaustion, great difficulty doing anything at all. However, I started to feel that if only I could get a decent nights sleep, that would help me on the road to recovery.
Starting mirt really helped me - I was knocked out for the first few weeks, but admittedly not as badly has what you seem to have experienced. But being able to sleep again was bliss for me. It took a little while longer for my mood to lift, but it did lift. Probably took 6 weeks or so. Maybe give it a little longer?
Take care
hi guys
i am now oh week 2 of mirt and i will help u all i went thought the same as you guys feeling really sleepy and keep wanting to eat put i will wear of as you go on with the teatment 2 weeks ago i couldnt go to work felt like everyone hated me and i couldnt stop thinking the world would be so better without me
now after to weeks i went to a party at the weekend and i back at work so i can work but to do have to go though the ruff stuff to come out of the other end
love to all
stefen
have just recieved my first packet of mirt an after reading the bumf amtotally freaked out!how can this drug be of any use to manic depressive recovering anorexic who is also wheelchair bound with body dismorphia and using heavy duty pain meds including diazepom and zopiclone for sleep! is my consultant mad.......can anyone advise me if they are in a similar situation :?
It sounds like there is something else going on. Our doctor told us that remeron cannot be taken for other illness's such as bi-polar because it causes adverse reactions like that... It's possible you need a different class of drugs? My son did
I shall start mine tonight also,
15mg one at night,
just reading through the comments,
was nearly put of starting,
but I guess any new medication can affect people differently.
shall be interested to follow you're progress Mikethorpe1968
I just got perscribed thismedication 15mg, i took my first dosage last night around 8 pm cause thats what time i always go to bed every night.And it hit me fast and slept good all night with no side affects. It really helped me and i rate this medication a 5 . i couldnt image going any higher than 15 mg.
I will taking my first dose 15mg of Mirtazapine tonight, after suffering on Venlafaxine 35/75mg for the last 3 months. A previous time of despression I had been on Effexor (venlafaxine) 150mg without any problems. So was reluctant to change, however my doctor advise would help with by sleep or lack of it. Only seem to get 2-3 disturbed sleep most nights, been a moody bas*ard to say the least! So actually hoping the Mirtazapine will knock me out. I update tomorrow, how I get on with it.
Day 1: Slept from 10pm to 11:20am, woke up to a feeling like slow motion for the first half hour!
Day 2: Slept from 1am ro 1:30pm, woke up with an headache.
Doesn't look good for work Monday, may have to go back to the doctors for a cert?
Also forgot had the shakes on day 1 as well!
Hope the info helps others?
It can take up to 2 weeks for your system to become used to it.
Hi - are you in the UK? When I changed meds I was already off work with a sick note. Due to the meds I was coming off my change was horrible for about 4 days after the change and then normal and again 4 days when changing doses again. Maybe you could explain this to your doctor and maybe he could write you a sick note for work?
Hi
Hi I'm on 20 mg flux an 15 mg mirt, it's me 2 nd day on flux an I feel as if I want to grind me teeth
I have just started on 20 mg flux to take in morning an me mirt put down to 15 mg on a nite,
Well I've had wine with both Mirt and Prozac! Prozac apparently has a relatively short 'Hang Time' in the body according to my GP and you only need to allow a day or two before starting Mirt.
Other SSRI's take longer to get out of your system.
I'm sure alcohol wouldn't be advised though. However, when I started taking Prozac around it's release time. I kept the patient notes and it actually said that there were no known side affects with alcohol. However, today's notes do not say this. Prozac can make you feel very jittery and anxious in the early days and the wine counteracted this for me. As for Mirt. with it's sedative affects, I wouldn't advise it until you adjust to it as it will exacerbate the sedation. Moderation is the main point but the odd glass should not affect you much at all.
Hope this is useful to you.