Hola a todos, he estado bebiendo bastante vino todos los días. ¿Crees que me hará peor? Es que es tan tentador porque me hace sentir mucho más tranquila. Aunque me preocupa mucho. ¿Alguien más hace lo mismo?
Con cariño, Caroline xxx
Yes!!! Me!!!
it calms me RIGHT DOWN...
I also fear how it's going to effect me ESP as I have major digestive issues too...
the problem being two wines used to clam me down but now it's four....
feel free to send me a private message if you like
im actually very depressed since all this started, I can't bear to be alone so sometimes I turn to wine which is so bad
Hola Ellacraig, estoy igual. Acabo de empezar la terapia hormonal, así que
me digo a mí misma que en cuanto haga efecto estaré bien y no necesitaré vino. No quiero dejarlo del todo, solo reducir. Mi ansiedad comenzó en diciembre, así que creo que ahora también me está deprimiendo.
Si pudiera dormir, quizá me ayudaría. ¿Cómo duermes?
Xxx
Hi. Well if I drink too much.... I wake up very dehydrated and I wake up soo ashamed of myself
im not on anything ie hrt but I swear I'm close to asking for anti anxiety meds...
im in the early stages too. I swear I got home today and just cried my eyes out, I hate being alone since all this started.
welk I hope the hrt helps you I really do, this is no sort if life.
i myself am trying natural pills which take longer etc unfortunately
¡No te sientas avergonzado!! Es una herramienta de afrontamiento. ¿Quién puede culparnos realmente cuando nos sentimos tan mal. ¿No tienes a nadie con quien hablar? No dudes en enviarme un mensaje en cualquier momento. Ve a tu médico para que te recete medicación. Yo también tomo antidepresivos. He tomado Valium, pero tengo miedo de tomarlo porque no quiero engancharme. Xx
Hi Caroline
I really sympathise with you and u know how tempting it can be to tranquillise yourself with wine but in the long run it WILL make you feel worse. Alcohol is a depressant. Although it is a temporary fix it will suck you down into a spiral. I know it sounds really trite and clichéd but please try to find another relaxation technique that suits you. Take care my friend
Anita x
Thanks Caroline il do that. I don't know about you but I have a beautiful daughter who just doesn't understand what I'm going through. I try to keep composed with her around but at times I fail. Poor kid has the soul of a much older child because of me and I feel aweful as a result
I detest drugs but I hear them calling me... :s
Thanks though glad I'm not alone
Dear caroline,
I like a tipple but i wonder if it makes my anxiety worse plus i always feel panicky after the week end when im likely to have a tipple, plus lack of sleep makes me worse plus caffeine! I think the combination of them is a catalyst to my anxiety. I recently tried to cut the caffeine down because i was getting panic attacks. I prob do feel abit calmer but i enjoy these things and would be down right miserable if i couldnt have them! X
Hola pinkcatfairy,
Estoy de acuerdo, estoy pasando por un momento de ansiedad y, como es posible que
Me ponga un poco más nerviosa, el vino es un escape muy bienvenido. Cuídate xxxx
No solo te estás haciendo más daño que bien, sino que además no se supone que debas beber licor mientras estás en terapia hormonal de reemplazo (THR). Estoy publicando desde el área médica de la asociación de cáncer de mama y dice lo siguiente:
La investigación ha encontrado que tanto el consumo de alcohol como la toma de terapia hormonal de reemplazo (THR) pueden aumentar el riesgo de cáncer de mama. Un gran estudio combinó ambos factores al analizar cómo el consumo de alcohol mientras se toma THR afecta el riesgo de cáncer de mama.
El estudio analizó los hábitos de consumo de alcohol y el uso de THR de más de 5,000 mujeres danesas durante 20 años. Los investigadores encontraron:
Beber alcohol sin tomar THR no afectó realmente el riesgo de cáncer de mama.
Las mujeres posmenopáusicas que tomaban THR Y consumían 1 o 2 bebidas alcohólicas al día tenían un riesgo de cáncer de mama que era 3 veces mayor que el de las mujeres que no bebían y no tomaban THR.
Las mujeres posmenopáusicas que tomaban THR Y consumían más de 2 bebidas alcohólicas al día tenían un riesgo de cáncer de mama que era 5 veces mayor que el de las mujeres que no bebían y no tomaban THR.
El consumo de alcohol aumenta los niveles de estrógeno. Es posible que el estrógeno adicional del alcohol combinado con el estrógeno en la THR causara los aumentos dramáticos en el riesgo en este estudio.
La revisión médica es mucho más larga, pero solo publiqué la página 1, para que puedas leer por qué los médicos aquí te dicen que no bebas alcohol mientras estás en TRH. Recuerdo que mi médico me dijo que no bebiera, pero como no soy bebedora, esto no fue un problema para mí. Tus células probablemente están gritando DETENTE, nos estás envenenando, pero no estás escuchando. Tantas mujeres piensan que es un juego arriesgar su vida bebiendo mientras están en medicación, solo cuando les diagnostican cáncer se dan cuenta de que hicieron algo mal o algunas nunca se dan cuenta, mientras otras prefieren permanecer en negación de que no creyeron la información médica dada. Haz lo que quieras, solo sabe que la quimioterapia trae de vuelta todos tus síntomas 10 veces peor. Buena suerte.
Thank s and you x
Hi caroline
Yes that happens with me, it is tempting to keep drinking, i think it may be more because its liquid thats calming us not the fact that its booze, our blood volume drops during menopause, due to constant weeing, so, we become thirsty, fatigued, lightheaded off balance, dizzy etc, its because our blood pressure drops, so, drinking any sought of liquid will help bring it back up, but water is best, switch to decaf hot drinks, and plain water, as i think ultimately booze will make us worse in the long run, apart from the fact we are risking becoming alcoholics.............ha
I have never taken HRTS, a few years ago I was drinking moderately a few days a week, I read the data about women and alcohol and its not very good for us period unless its in small amounts, I just quit altogether because I read where weight, alcohol, and HRTS play a key role in breast cancer, as soon as my knee heals I will be back to my exercise routine to lose the weight. I will say this, the emotional toll that menopause wreeks on us is hard and its very tempting to resort to alcohol, I do use other aids to help relieve the tension but not alcohol.
I can tell from how your writing lennie, your petrified about getting breast cancer, My school of 43, she was always over weight at school, but was always active, turns out, she had a underactive thyroid, she is obese now, and had to give up work due to severe spinal injury, so, she is now, more or, less housebound, cant drive at the moment due to problems with her foot, and legs, has a mobility scooter for when shes able to get out, she was a smoker until she developed COPD, which, shes on meds for, shes diabetic, so is on metphormine, constantly on antibiotics due to infections in legs and feet, caused by her immobility, morphine, gabbapetin, trammadol, and ibuprofen for pain, she had a hysterectomy 20 years ago, has been on HRT patches ever since, gets no peri, meno symptoms whatsoever, and with all her health probs, and meds shes on, know one has suggested she comes off it, there is no immediate cancer in her family, genetic, or, hormonal.
The reason im telling you this, is, not to encourage you to take HRT i cant do that incase it doesnt work for you..................but you seem petrified of it causing cancer in you, so would you take it, if there was no risk of that happening, because at the end of the day lennie, we could get cancer anywhere in our body, without taking HRT, so why suffer now, but i understand and its entirely up to you, on the otherhand you sound determined to get fit, and cope with this through alternative lifestyle changes, and if you can do that, then great, im not trying to pressure you, just dont like people to suffer unnecessarily. best wishes xx
El alcohol me afecta terriblemente al día siguiente. Solía salir los fines de semana, hace más de 10 años ya. Disfrutaba de la noche fuera, pero finalmente me di cuenta de que el alcohol me deprimía y mi ansiedad era terrible. Finalmente me di cuenta de esto y hace años que no bebo alcohol, excepto en Navidad y/o en ocasiones especiales. Ahora me da miedo beberlo. Según mi experiencia, es mejor evitar el alcohol por varias razones. Ya nos sentimos mal de por sí, odiaría que te hiciera sentir peor. Una situación de doble filtro realmente, queremos un poco de alivio, pero incluso eso puede tener efectos adversos también. Espero que puedas encontrar algo que te ayude x.
HI Elaine, yes, cancer scares the crap out of me, its not due to family or genetics because mom and dad, nor grandparents have it or had it, I was not afraid like this before meno. My best friend died of colon cancer and she was morbidly obese for years and she did eat poorly and she smoked, I am not in that situation, I am overweight, and of course I see it on the news constantly. You are right in everything you said, there are other cancers. And, I think if natural items do NOT work, I will get a mammogram, colonoscopy essentially get myself checked out, which I will do anyway and if it does not get better I may consider the HRTS, you are right about me being petrified. I have changed my eating significantly to address this fear with healthy foods.
Hi Lennie
Your doing everything you should be doing lennie, but yes it could be the fact that your peri that has increased your fears, it is a symptom unfortunately, it can do that. Like you i have an illness, so i have to keep myself as fit as possible, and i am careful with my diet and exercise etc, it is our bodies afterall, and knowone else can do that for us, and if we listen to too much advice from specialists, or, scientists, we would never eat anything again, would we.
Thats great that your family have no history, that is a plus lennie, but very sorry to hear of your loss over your friend. Unfortunately there is quite a bit of cancer in my family, dad, sister, nan and auntie, doesnt always follow you will get it though, but chances are higher for us obviously, but, will cross that bridge if or, when i come to it, not giving an illness like that any of my energy worrying about whether i will get it or, not.
And of course, if you smoke, or, overweight, drs will always blame this, one minute there telling you its ok to eat this and that, 10 years down the line its oops....................sorry its now not, so, what and who are we supposed to believe, I do believe your risk to be high, when both parents have genes for certain illnesses, think its pretty safe bet to say you are then at a very high risk, of developing the same illnesses as a result of that, still doesnt always follow though, you have to live your life!!
Let me know when your post, fingers crossed its soon for you, will always check for your messages.
Best wishes
Elaine .
Hi Elaine, totally agree with you about the family genetic issues, I am blessed that my mom's side is extremely healthy, my grandmother is 100 years old! AND, nothing wrong except glaucoma which I do have, my dad had mental illness and died from heart disease, however, I believe that the mental illness was the real culprit because had he just taken care of himself, got medical care etc he could have addressed this with lifestyle changes and meds, so because of his schizophrenia he did not and so it could have simply been his mental disease which I suspect led to his heart issues. He never went to the dr, did not take his medicine, and ate everything and smoked. But, with diabetes, I realize that heart issues are a risk and I have changed a lot of the food I eat. agree 1000 percent that the fear factor is DIRECTLY related to peri. menopause. I never had this type of fear before. I paid attention but never fear. I think the symptoms created the fear and the fear is out of control. I am seeing someone for it because it is a significant problem. Thank you for your warm thoughts. By the way, I do feel better as far as not being as filled with anxiety.
Hi lennie
Thats sad about your father, it is tragic when people dont look after themselves, yet you can see where they are going wrong, but if they dont meet you half way with you trying to help them,, or visit doctors, what can you do, and our older generation, were like that, they didnt take kindly to the medical profession, and they certainly didnt take to taking pills, so, its understandable, but generations change, were taught to take care more of our own health nowadays, and not rely on drs as much, so the onus is put more on us,i feel, thats partly down to how crap the drs seem to be i know, but with some people, its like they have a death wish,and however much, you try to help them, and get them to try and see sense, they dont!............very frustrating for their grown up children, my mother in law was like this, would not allow us to send for drs, and when the dr came, she refused to go to hospital, even when the drs said, if you dont, you wil die in this house alone, still refused, it was a very frustrating stressful, sad time for us, and it all could have been avoided.
My sister had several phobias as a child, where dogs were concerned that were off leashes, petrified of them, she also had a fear, of walking over bridges, and going up shop escalators, as she got stuck on one once, and during peri, these fears came back, and really went out of control, she was not offered therapy, just meds which, really just controls the symptoms, shes not as bad now shes post and is off her meds also, which is encouraging, and yet, as a person, i consider her to be very strong emotionally, my elder sister on the other hand, who has always been on the nervous side, and doesnt cope well generarlly, whilst, she did have panic attacks, but no childhood phobias, or, new fears, her anxiety only lasted a short time, so you would think if that was going to happen to any of us, it would have been her, doesnt always follow does it............ whilst i did have some panic attacks during early peri, they were few and far between, didnt have any heightened fear over things, and my anxiety was something i could live with, i use to do yoga, where i was taught relaxation and breathing exercises, so, that may account for it, because i have been able to stave the attacks off when i felt them coming on, So i feel for you that it is so bad, especially when you seem a strong person, who seems to have a handle on things as well, just shows you how it can affect people, there seems to be no set rule for any of us.