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Menopause has not got the attention it deserves by the medical community. Every year thousands of woman go thru excruciating menopause related problems for which medical science has no answers and worse they are not even looking for answers. Every doc that i have been too and said my libido is gone has given me the same advice. Try to spice up your sex life, go on a holiday with your partner, do meditation to reduce stress, use a vaginal gel for lubrication etc etc. I get soooo mad. There is nothing wrong with all that, i'm not stressed and holiday is not helping. We were having sex thrice a week just six months before my menopause started. The fact is now there is NO sexual feelings or any response from the body. Breasts are not feeling anything and orgasm takes sooooo long to happen that i lose all erotic feelings by then. It's a PHYSICAL problem but the doctors act like it's a mental problem, all in your mind etc. What idiots. I forced my doc to give me HRT but it's only estrogen and progesterone. What we need is testosterone i think. Anyone with a similar experience?

hi mee
Yes I believe it is a pretty big deal and they are ignoring the physical aspects of the changes.
How old are you now and how are you handling it?
Obviously not well but yes HRT testosterone is very important it’s part of the whole thing it really helps with mood and libido. it doesn’t matter as much for me unfortunately because I’m alone but I can tell my focus and energy and I’m stimulated easier than without this.
Male doctors have no clue they do not know how to treat this they really don’t sometimes even female docs dont
I’m with you
xo

My doctor recommended Female Libido tincture. It worked for me. Maybe worth a try?

The health and social care services have been very slow to tackle those conditions that are a consequence of our increasing longevity e.g. menopause, dementia, loneliness.

Try estriol cream - my vagina and vulva not only feel younger and are more lubricated but look younger too and there is increased sensitivity so orgasms are amazing!

This could be me writing exactly what you have! I have been to my doc about this plus all the other awful symptoms, I have been given HRT and tried three regimes of it - and have felt no difference! The NHS will only provide synthetic hormones and utogestran all of which I do not suit. I was met with a look of horror when i mentioned testosterone… I’m going back to discuss it all again on Monday but I don’t know what the point is as I always get nowhere and seem to educate them as I know more through extensive research and actually going through the menopause myself.
There is a massive lack of knowledge, empathy, understanding and help here in the UK… it may be the same world over I guess.
We should all start our own clinic - at least women would be met with understanding!
AJ. x

Is the estriol cream biodentical? where do you get it from? I’ve tried biest cream(biodentical) and it doesn’t work for me.

It is bioidentical. Estriol is the protective female estrogen. HRT containing estrone or estrodiol carry risks of cardiovascular problems and cancer, estriol actually protects against these (it is actually in its highest concentrations during pregnancy). It is particularly good at solving urinary problems and vaginal atrophy in very small concentrations. You can get the cream on prescription in the UK - called ovestin cream. In the US women have to get the estriol compounded at a compounding pharmacy. It is my miracle cream!

Do you know if there is a bio identical progesterone, apart from utrogestran? I’m going to ask for the ovestin cream too…
Thanks. x

preach it sister!!! and it hurts like hell, i dont care HOW much its lubricated!!!
arghhhhh!!!

No idea about the progesterone, sorry, i only use ovestin cream.

I completely agree! It’s branded a “woman’s issue” so it’s like a joke to them. If men experienced this, it would be cured by now. Women need to speak up somehow and get doctors to put effort into this. It’s not just about having children, which men can do into their 70s. It’s about quality of life. Mental and physical. Some women brag they have no menopause symptoms but I think the majority of us do. I’m already falling apart in perimenopause, severe anxiety, sleeping issues, pain, and can only imagine how much worse full menopause is. What can we do? Can we start a march or organization? You’d think the healthcare industry would love to solve the problem as they’d make a ton of money. I don’t get it. And women are told to just have hysterectomies for no reason. I was. Like oh you can’t have babies? Your organs are worthless. I am looking into ovarian rejuvination for just health but it’s still very new and expensive. Let me know if you figure out what we should do. :slight_smile:

I also just thought of a great ad campaign, “Are you suffering from insomnia, extreme sudden weight gain, fatigue, depression, bone loss, etc. well, then you’re just a woman over 40 and doctors could care less.” And then more after of course. But way to grab them in intro.

Sex is wonderful since i started using ovestin cream. Vagina and vulva plump and wet, look much younger than the rest if me and increased sensitivity, so great orgasms!

But it is not a disease, so doesn’t need a cure. It is just a natural part of the aging process like grey hair, failing memory, loss of skin elasticity, etc.. And all these symptoms pass - they don’t last for the rest of out lives - they go away (mostly) after menopause. I have known a few women that still have hot flushes after menopause. Better to spend the money on finding cures for actual conditions or diseases such as cancer, which do not eventually go away on their own. Men have age related issues too - hormonal changes cause prostate enlargement and associated problems.

Men don’t age the same. Yes they age. But at the same rate and as drastically at 40. Yes later in their 60s perhaps. No it’s not a disease and I’m not suggesting we don’t work towards curing Cancer etc. We should work towards everything that makes people well and healthy as long as they live, ideally. But we also shouldn’t ignore the women, maybe not you, suffering from lack of good treatment. But it’s a dehabilitating condition for many women, maybe not you, that can lead to heart attack, bone loss, stroke, severe depression and anxiety etc. that impair your ability to work, be happy and function. And for many, it has no good treatments and does not get better with time. Many women on this site. If men experienced the same I’m sure there would be more and better treatments so they could function and live vibrant lives.

totally agree!!!

Like it!! Don’t forget to add brain fog, debilitating aches and pains, confusion, painful sex, headaches, forgetfulness… oh i could go on and on (and frequently do!!)
xx

and THIS is exactly the attitude of the medical community which is why so many of us are suffering!! Just suck it up and put up with it, it’s no disease and therefore deserves very little attention, is what they say anyway.
No it’s not “natural” to suffer so much. also there is enough money for research, it’s not an either/or situation where if they spend on Menopause research they have to take the money from cancer research! There is enough for both. Just because some of us have mild symptoms does not mean we ignore others who are truly suffering. The issues people face are very real, they need solutions. Bone loss, hot flashes, painful sex, loss of libido, insomnia etc are very real, not imagined. They interfere with quality of life and affect personal and professional life to the extent some people I know had to quit work, some ended up divorced etc. This truly does deserve help from the medical community, don’t compare to Cancer or ulcer or kidney failure or any other condition!!

But there are treatments - HRT. HRT has solved all the physiological and psychological issues that my friends had. I admit I got off lightly with just a dry vagina, which i have successfully treated with estrogen cream, and hot flushes and night sweats (the latter successfully treated with amitriptylene, so i get a good nights sleep). There is no treatment for an enlarged prostate, just changing lifestyle can help. It is probably not so much the medical world neglecting women but neglecting older people. Far more people die of dementia than die of cancer, but the money spent on finding a cure for cancer is vastly more than that spent on finding a cure for dementia. Many cancers are already curable but there is no cure for dementia. Cancer research attracts more money because it affects people of all ages, more to the point it can affect children. Most people with dementia are in their 80s and there is a perception that because they are so old already, and ‘on the way out’, why bother trying to cure dementia. I suspect that if menopause was experienced by children, there would be plenty of funding to find a ‘cure’. But as I say, my friends have all been successfully ‘cured’ with HRT, so I am not sure what the issue is here - are there some women for whom HRT doesn’t work? (I know women who have had cancer cannot use it). Or is it just that they haven’t found the right HRT for them? There are so many different forms of HRT now (my friends are all on something different), my dr told me it us just a matter of finding the right one for you.

I’m afraid these age related conditions are what we get for or increased longevity, due to improved medical care. We are living longer but those extra years are often spent in discomfort, distress or pain. We have added years to life but not life to years.

wow! i haven’t heard of this! must speak to my doc about this!