Dr won't test me for vaaculitis. What to do now?

Hello my name is Matthew. I began having weakness in my limbs 4 months ago. I then experienced an inflamed esophagus, stomach ulcers, and an inflamed colon which was diagnosed by an endoscopy and colonoscopy. I have last 25 pounds since this all started. I am in pain and weak nearly all day everyday. My fingertips on my hands have become swollen and I can see veins that I wasn't able to see before. Just about a week ago I began having pulsations and pressure in my throat, ears (popping) and sinuses. I have headaches that are usually in the back of my head. I also have a pimple-like rash all the way down my right arm. I have severe pain in my kidney area as well. Anyways, I have had MRI's/CT scans of my head, neck, chest, and abdomen 4 months ago which all came back normal. I have seen a rheumatologist who ran blood work on me and said it looked good other than elevated enzymes in my liver. She now says based on my bloodwork I do not have vaaculitis or other auto immune diseases and she diagnosed me with fibromyalgia. I am not convinced I have fibro, because I have been on medication for it for a month and my symptoms have just become worse. I feel helpless because I can't see another rheumatologist for another 3 weeks and I am becoming much worse. What should I do now? ERs are useless for me because all they do is run more blood work then send you home. Does this sound like vasculitis to you all? And are angiograms helpful in finding vasculitis? I am worried it is attacking my GI tract and my liver. Now that i am having severe pressure/pulsations with from my neck up with headaches i am worried it has spread there as well. Thank you for your time.

yes I have vasculitis and it sounds familiar to me. Are you uk based? I am astonished on here to find so many people for whom vasculitis is ruled out on blood tests. Blood tests are only an indicator usually. Vasculitis is so often diagnosed on history. I am not sure where you are based - could recommend someone for a follow up appointment but my knowledge of uk hospital is best as I am in the UK. 

I am in the USA but I am willing to fly to the UK if it will help me get diagnosed. If you have any recommendations i would love to hear them. I am just running out of options and don't know what to do next. What tests helped diagnose vasculitis for you? I am very disappointed in my rheumatologist for dismissing me so quickly. I am sorry you have vasculitis and hope you are doing okay.

Ok walking my dog buy I will answer you in 10 mins. What state are you in?

I am in California. I know quite a flight to the UK but I am desperate at this point.

well not even sure it would help coming here. IT took over a year for me to be diagnosed and it was done on history. I also had some specific symptoms crop up during that time. I had a mild attack of uveitis for example and that helped with diagnosis. I saw an immunologist at the Royal London Hospital for about a year and a half before being diagnosed. 

I am going to ask people in my help group who they might see in that area. I will post whatever answers I get. 

Please look up the vasculitis foundation in the states....they will have a helpline and please speak to them. The one in the UK is brilliant. Very helpful. 

ok, the first name that has been mentioned to me is Dr Arthur Silverman at Scripps San Diego Rheumatology dept. I will see what other suggestions come back. 

Thank you so much Margaret. You have been extremely helpful. I will look into Dr Silverman and the vasculitis foundation. If you don't mind me asking, what kind of vasculitis do you have? And are you expected to have a normal life expectancy? Best wishes.

yes I am expecting a normal lifespan. We never know what will happen and it is unpredictable. But with treatment I am now symptom free. And I have Behcet's specifically. Very particular symptoms. But mine are mainly neurological to be honest. A lot can be done for vasculitis these days. Please don't despair. But get a good doctor. I know another friend who lives in California and will ask him where he goes. Any other docs names I will post for you. 

That is awesome. So glad to hear you will be okay. You have really given me hope and I cannot thank you enough. It is tough living with this when you don't have a diagnosis, and all you can think about is whether your organs are being effected and you can't do anything about it. All I want to do is get tested for it. Blood tests are not enough for me, and I just worry that I will get diagnosed too late.

Matt, I am 53 now and probably had this as a child with a period of remission for a long time in between. Vasculitis can be very slow moving and I feel you are not in mortal danger .....you just need treatment to make you feel better. That is if it is what you have of course. I'm not qualified to make that  judgement. I hope you get a good doc on board soon to put your mind at rest. This illness is scary but there are treatment options out there. x

I am very happy that I posted on here. I wish I hadn't waited so long to do so. Thank you for all of the great information and reassurance. You spent time out of your day to help a complete stranger and I couldn't be more grateful for that. I wish you the best

you too. I just hope you get answers soon and you are a bit more reassured. I will post back again once I get any other doctor options in California. If you ever want to chat feel free. Take care. 

Thank you Margaret I would greatly appreciate that.

Dear Matt,

Symptoms for Vasculitis covers many things as you list and with the rarity of it most Dr's have never encountered it.

I had PAN whne i was 21yrs and the Dr then didnt know what was happening, it wasnt until i couldnt walk with teh pain that i was referred to a Specilaist and rushed straight into hospital.

30 years later and now i have GPA, which i made sure that I steered the Dr's on teh right path as i knew what was happening to me.

Both of these are initially controlled with steroid and then maintained with Imuran, I still have GPA and through all this has had a normal life with no sickness from work.

Vaculitis is also very different in terms of different types and what it can affect, I would suggest that you get a second opinion or as suggest teh Vascuitis Foundation in UK or USA, UK are very helpful and they may also have contacts in USA.

Let us all know what happens

Thank you for the response Phil. I'm sorry you have been hit with this disease, but am happy to see you are still abe to work and have a normal life. What tests are most useful in detecting vasculitis? I know biopsy is clearly the best way to know for sure. But what about an angiogram? I have been thinking about getting one without insurance because I do not want to wait for them to approve it or not. If not an angiogram, what else is useful in detecting this disease? Thank you for your time

Hi Matt

Symptoms for both same,

Night Sweats

Pains in ahnds and feet transgressed to knees

Lesions on elbows

Weight Loss

Loss of apeptite

For PAN it affected my Kidneys and they confirmed with a kidney biospy and lesion biospy

For GPA if affected my lungs, and upper respiratorty tract, I only found out that there was an issue when I had a perido medical at work and tehy found coin lesions on my lungs, it then progressed from February 2013 until full diagnosis in Noveber 2013 and the Specilaist confirmed GPA with ANCA test which came back positive, therefore 95% that is was GPA.

Other Blood test can indicate Vasculitis but also other problems, such as raised ERS, CRP, which detect inflammation in the body.

In essence ERS, CRP and ANCA will help to undertsand whats going on

 

I so agree with your comment. Symptoms are so wide which makes it difficult and confusing. I have mainly neuro type symptoms. Same blood work but not anca only mildly raised ers and crp. And sometimes thy are normal.

It has been suggested I have menongoencepalitis from behcet"s which causes severe migraine. Can go on for weeks. Comes with a severe aura almost hallucinatory. Loss of balance feeling of being seasick. Dizzy spells fatigue. Electric shock type pain in my face, ear sometimes in my groin. Very high blood pressure becomes difficult to control in a flare. Muscular pain. Sweats. Mild joint pain for me. And for someone who has Behcet's I rarely have ulceration.

I think that for everyone the symptoms can be different. Very wide ranging. I have also had skin rashes. Huge hive like lumps which are red fiery and itchy. It changes moves from one atea of body to another. Most bizzare ilness on the planet.

I read that over and think wow. Thank god I have good treatment at the moment. I am currently very well with some issues but not that list. I run a business and have managed to stay in work. Please don't think your life will be over if you get a positive diagnosis. Oh also....add to those symptoms depression and anxiety. Strangely enough, that goes away with treatment! Not surprising people get depressed and anxious dealing with all that. Have a great day Matt and Phil. X

thank you both for your help. I finally got back my bloodwork where i was able to look at it myself, and I came across that my C Reactive Protein Inflammation was elevated to 3.4. It says that the range for a normal level is 0-3. Is that something i should be concerend about? I am now panicking because i feel like it means i could have vasculitis. I continue to feel very poorly, and i cannot get into my new rheumatologist for over a month and my regular doctor refuses to order an angiogram for me or refer me to another rheumatologist. I feel so helpless because i believe I know what I have, but I cant do anything about it, and I continue to feel worse.