Great post Ian. Very re-assuring. I read it the evening before my flexible cystoscope and knew exactly what to expect. Went precisely as you described. Many thanks. Hope you are now well.
Hey Drew,
I am a young male who finds himself in a similar position as yours. how did the procedure go? Did they find anything? Have you been able to regain urinary control without medication?
Thanks!
I would agree with most that is on this thread. In my case, I would say that urination the first day after the procedure was far more than uncomfortable...it hurt (sharp, knife like pain). But, with each successive urination the pain eased. There was a little blood in the urine but that has begun to stop.
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Im a 28 year old who had flexible cystocopy yesterday 14/11/2016. I was very nervous and worried about the procedure, im not very good with pain and reading through this forum helped me alot. My GP's didn't explain to me what to expect or how the procedure goes.
Over the weekend was crap, constantly worying and doing my girlfriends nut in keep going out about, like what happens if they cut me, if they ruined my penis!!
The procedure was one of the most painful things i have ever put myself through, that being said, i have had lumber punctures , blows to the head before which werent half as bad as this was.
They push cold gel into the tip which is supposed to numb the area, however this is not the case, then the Dr put the scope in and it hurt and kept feeling like i wanted to pee, the two nurses were really good, and tried to calm me down, telling me to relax but trying to relax is easier said then done.
The Dr was really good kept talking to me all the way through it but it was hurting and stinging at the same time.
Then all of a sudden there was this massive sharp pain that made my eyes water and i was screaming for them to make it stop... The Nurse said relax and try to wee so the scope could go in much easier.
The Dr said the most painul bit was over and was now in my bladder and he offered me to look at the screen. I looked at the screen and was quite amazed, he took some pictures and he was making jokes to calm me down although it was still painful.
The whole procedure left me realing in pain, tears and all.
I was stinging constantly felt like i wanted to go a wee all the time. The nurse took me and my girlfriend to another area where i got changed and went a wee for the first time, OMG it was so painful and stung, for the rest of the day i wanted to wee but stopped myself because of the stinging.
When i got home i had to take painkillers to ease the pain, every direction i turned had pain.
My penis is bruised, and still stinging 24hrs later.
Overall its not and experience i ever want to go through again, if i have too i'll have it done under GA.
Please please , if you have to have this done, opt for a general anesthetic or take a sedative beforehand.
This really isnt as described on the NHS website.
ian i had one done and the pain was terrible as i have a small aperture and now after a bladder op i have to have a catheter every week for chemo to go in and that really hurts is there anyone who has any tips for a catheter going in to stop the pain please
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PaWiSu I think you hit the nail on the head.
Here in the US, the medical community always thinks 1st about a woman's dignity & ways to protect it.
They give NO consideration to a man.
There is no reason why a man cannot have male caregivers assisting with this or any other intimate related test or procedure.
Men go into this test with so many things already on their mind.
Many men that haven't dealt with the American medical system before have this preconcieved notion that since this test is of an intimate male nature, the facility will provide male caregivers to protect the patient's dignity if they so desire.
Then he goes for the test & gets a very rude awakening and finds out the facility doesn't care at all about male dignity/modesty. The patient comes away not trusting the medical profession anymore.
Not good for anyone.
Every medical facility should offer their patients (both men and women) the choice of same gender care if they so choose it.
This would take a huge burden off the patient whereby helping to get said patient on their way towards the best possible outcome from their visit.
You rarely if at all see male x-ray tech giving women mammograms.
Why not if a woman can give a man a scrotal ultrasound?
Because the system is setup to protect a woman's dignity wherever and whenever possible. They don't care about male dignity. As far as they're concerned, men aren't supposed to be modest.
Men want and deserve the same consideration women already get without question.
Many married men don't want other women seeing much less handling their privates for any reason.
Their wishes should without question be honored.
The intimate related tests & procedures are hard enough as it is to get through.
Must the system also totally embarass men for no reason?
Regards,
Raffie
I'm afraid that is the way it is. But some nurses are in it for the money not the care. In the late 70's and early 80's I work in a nurseing home. I took care of both men and women. I gave them the care and respect that they needed. I have been in the hospital many times over the last 2 years and the only time I felt like a piece of meat was from a male nurse. I don't care who is taking care of me just give me the care that you would like for yourself. Take care ken
Hi Ken.
Things are currently the way they are right now because men are afraid or just not willing to speak up for change like the ladies have done.
Guys want to look macho & not rock the boat so they put up & shut up even though they want nothing to do with the setup.
Enough is enough.
If enough male patients who really would rather have male caregivers would TELL the doctor & facility they don't want to be seen and/or handled by female caregivers they will have to listen to the men just like they listened to the ladies.
The way this is currently being done CAN be changed.
Men that really want a CHOICE, just have to find their voice & SPEAK UP loud & clear.
Once enough guys say no to the current way of doing things CHANGE WILL COME. It will have to.
Regards,
Raffie
That is true. If you tell them you perfer a male you should get a male. After I had trouble with that male nurse. No one touches me until they have my permission. That was horror story take care ken
I had a cystoscopy today and was probably one of the most painful things I have ever experienced. This was after having anaesthetic gel being applied and plenty of time to take effect. I felt extreme pressure and was shouting at the doctor to remove it and quickly. As soon as it was removed the pain immediately subsided. I have suffered from kidney stones and thisvpain was as bad as that. I will never allow this procedure to be performed on me again unless I'm sedated or given a general anaesthetic. I realise that for the vast majority of men having this procedure it is a mildly uncomfortable or any pain experienced is minimal but it is not like that for everyone. Good luck to those of you having this procedure.
graeme sorry to hear that my first one i was screaming haha and i dreaded the 2nd one 3 weeks ago but in the meantime i had an operation for bladder cancer and 6 treatments with catheters for chemo and each time i took a diazepam tablet which worked really well and my 2nd cyscotpy went in so easy i never felt it just the gel but i had 2 lots put down me and i made him wait a little bit
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Any side affects in conection with orgasm like a delay in orgasm or struggle to climax.
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this is bull s**t!!!!!!!! I just had it done and it was the most pain full thing ever!!!!!
I can mornallbut I was yelling at the Dr. to stopy take alot of pain, but I was yelling at the Dr. to stop!!!!!!! What is this the dark ages p- it was barbaric!!!! and all the blood, it is now 5 hours later an I can hardly move and I have peed 4 thmes and it still burns very bad. Don"t lie to people!!!!!
did they give you something. DID they use a gel. I have 4 a year to check my stricture. uncomfetable but it never hurts my doctor is all ways very gentlek ken
Hi Ken:
can an the doc do this from prep to finish without female nurse assisting for those that are uncomfortable being intimately exposed with strange women in the room?
Regards,
Raffie
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My doctor has no male nurses right now. IH ave a female nurse injected the gel and then she comes back when the doctor is ready. I perfer a male nuse but she is very nice Ken
kenneth does it really matter ive had loads during my chemo and cystoscpoes done by male and female as long as it goes in and works thats the main thing
I guess it all depends on what there doing but as long as they ask and do it well I am ok with it. I can tell you that having a catheter put in my a male and a female nurse the female nurse was more gentle......THe male nurse just grabed me a force it in...NEVER again ken
Good Morning Everyone:
Michael, you’d be surprised how much it matters to a lot of gentlemen who gets involved in their intimate care prep, testing, or procedures.
Many men are NOT comfortable being so intimately exposed much less handled by a strange female. Especially when there is more than one woman in the room and they are all much younger than their male patient. How would women feel having a group of men standing behind her physician while getting a pelvic or breast exam? I don’t think they’d be too comfortable. Most would object & the guys would have to leave. It should be the same way for male patients. If they don’t want women caregivers then they should be replaced by male caregivers.
A lot of the new urological procedures are moving out of the hospital OR and into the physician’s office surgical suite. Procedures that once were done under general anesthetic are nowadays being done under locals.
To get the guy’s mind off of what the doc is doing below, they’ve added another female to the mix to stand up by your head and talk to you throughout the procedure. She’s supposed to lock her eyes with yours but as is human nature she stares over the curtain more often than not.
I would think a guy would have a better chance of holding a conversation with another guy or even their spouse or girlfriend rather than a stranger.
Since it’s an office setting it’s the doctors preference as to who they hire but if enough of their male patients were to object to female caregivers they will have to make a change or lose patients to the doctor who
cares about what their patients think.
If urology departments and urologists were to poll their male patients, I think they’d be taken completely by surprise as to how many men would prefer male attendants over females in an intimate related medical setting.
Discrimination against hiring people based on their race, religion, gender, national origin, age or other protected status is generally prohibited under the laws of the U.S.
In some very rare circumstances, the very nature of the job requires employers to choose candidates based on what are otherwise protected characteristics.
So companies (like US hospitals, imaging centers, clinics, airlines, and even Hooters), use what is called a Bona Fide Occupational Qualification (BFOQ) exception to hire the candidates they want.
Hooters has tried using it for years to hire only female servers. Airlines tired it also to only hire female flight attendants and they had to be under a certain height.
Both were taken to court via class action lawsuits and both lost even though Hooters keeps on trying and losing.
In order to use the BFOQ exception, an employer must prove that no member of the group of people they are discriminating against could perform the job.
So what does this have to do with hospitals you ask?
Imaging centers, Medical Centers, hospitals, and clinics all claim to be equal opportunity employers.
At the same time some are making this claim, they are hiring one gender preferentially over the other for providing care using a BFOQ exception to our discrimination laws.
In just about every case our healthcare facilities are saying that they will use the BFOQ argument for same gender care because they choose to only hire females for tech, staff, and nursing positions for departments that serve female patients like mammography, or say labor & delivery to protect the patients privacy.
What they are choosing to ignore is that by using the exception in this manner they are also saying that male patients also have a right to male nurses, techs, and staff at these facilities to protect their privacy.
Problem has been guys very seldom demand same gender care and I think it’s because they are afraid of looking weak (that’s society’s fault), and aren’t told by anyone it is their right to choose.
Facilities would have to stop trading men’s lives for dollars and start hiring more male staff if they told guys they had the right to choose.
Hospitals, clinics, and imaging center administrators and their senior staff are of the belief that the gender of the care giver is not an issue for male patients, therefore it’s okay in their eyes to go ahead and hire only females who can then care for both genders.
That misconception has no basis in facts and the opposite has been expressed in court cases about the same gender BFOQ for urology staffing.
Facilities that use this exception open themselves up to the possibility of class action lawsuits from male patients and male staff. Just like hooters and the airlines.
The one place this exception doesn’t hold up is the physician’s office. There, you are at the prejudices of
your doctor as he/she hires their own staff. All one can do there is ask them to hire an equal amount of men and women if they care for both sexes.
So if you’re a guy and especially if you’re being treated at a big medical center, do not ever forget, you have the right to choose male caregivers if you are uncomfortable with female caregivers.
Another thing you can do is have a conversation with your doctor. Ask them if the hospital they have rights at supplies same gender care for patients. If you ask why not then ask your doctor to advocate on your behalf at the hospital to hire the necessary staff to make it possible. Doctors have clout at hospitals.
If they don’t advocate for their patients, they will lose those patients.
Be wise and be smart. Don’t ever be afraid to ask. It's your body. You and you alone have final say.
Regards,
Raffie
Hi thank you for leaving such a detailed response to your cystoscopy. My father is currently awaiting an appointment for his Cystoscopy and at 67 years old, never having any surgery ever he is rather anxious. As he doesn't own anything even relating to the interWeb as he calls it, I showed him your post and read out your experience and it has helped him so much with the questions I, being female couldn't answer