I started suffering from a leg ulcer, just above my ankl...

I started suffering from a leg ulcer, just above my ankle, about a year ago, I visited my GP at first, who refered me to our District Nurses Clinic, who treated my condition well, and it nearly healed but I was then refered to an hospital specilist, by my diabetes doctor. The specilist said it was exmah, and informed not top continue with the dressing, but to use a special cream for the condition, I took his word, and now my ulcer has opened up again, and can be very painful on some occassions. My work involves a lot of walking, as I work in a warehouse. Can anybody give me advice.

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Hi you need to take your father to a leg ulcer specialist, depending on where in the country you live there are some very good services. The specialist will do some simple tests to work out what may be causing the ulcer and then give appropriate treatment. The cause of the majority of ulcers is about poor blood return to the heart, if this is the reason your father has an ulcer it can easily be treated with compression bandages, however compression must not be used until he has had a Doppler test which ensure the blood supply to the leg is adequate.

This web site : http://www.legulcerforum.org/patientsleaflets has some excelent leaflets for patients about leg ulcers.

Ask your GP to be referred to the Leg Ulcer Service or if you do not have one to the Tissue Viability Nurse. If you don't have one of those either contact the Leg Ulcer Forum and they will advise you.

Good luck.

Jacqui

I have a small leg ulcer on my left leg just above the ankle. (My left ankle is my bad one with swelling, varicose veins etc.) I also stand a lot in my work. The ulcer started about 6 months ago with a shoe rubbing and cutting the skin. I now wear backless shoes (search 'Croc Shoes' on the internet) which don't slip off your feet as you think they might. They don't rub your ankles and keep your feet cool. The ulcer has a scab on it at the moment, if it heals up I'll let you know.

I'm 62 now and I wonder what my leg will be like when I'm 72! It's elivating the leg, and not crossing my legs for me from now on.

I hope I didn't mislead anyone reading this when I suggested Croc shoes. These are made of plastic and can be slippery when walking on wet ground. A better bet are probably leather backless shoes called Mules. Anyway my ankle ulcer has healed up, thank God. In my experience no creams or soaking in salt water, etc. work. Jacqui (above) is right, I went to my GP and his nurse done a Doppler on my leg (nothing to worry about it's just taking the blood pressure on your leg), then she got the GP to prescribe a support stocking. The chemist measures you for the right size. I found that knee length ones are good, thigh length ones are even better. With a small plaster on the ulcer under the stocking it had healed up in six weeks.

Further info: I'd had swelling on that (left) ankle for years, following a football injury; now following the support stocking treatment the swelling has gone down and rarely recurs.

Never wear short socks - I've left off wearing the support stocking (because I don't want my leg to rely on it) and I find long thermal socks or football socks give adequate support now.

I too suffered with a leg ulcer for years, and no method helped.

I want everyone to know about a miracle - Solcoseryl - This jelly, which is an extract of protein from calf/steer blood will oxygenate the area and cause skin to grow and cover over the ulcer. In just ten days my ulcer is almost healed!! This has been used in Europe for years, even being injected to cure stomach ulcers. It is also used for burns and to reduce scarring. I may be hard to find, but you can locate it on on-line pharmacy sites. It cost just $12.00 a tube!

Try it, try it. I guarantee it will work and end your suffering, as it did mine.

Clean you wound twice daily, and apply the jelly to the open wound and cover with a clean bandage, and everyday you will see the wound resolving until it scabs over and heals completely, usually in 2-4 weeks or less.

I cant believe that after all this time my ulcer has finally healed and without dreaded surgery and skin grafts. Good luck to you.

Hi I have had a leg ulcer on each leg for about 10 years, healing and bursting open, healed at the moment.

I have found Manuka Honey brilliant for healing, it was the surgery who healed my last one who put the honey on and boy oh boy it works so well and quickly, try it. It may be a little more expensive than the usual, but, it stops the ulcers from infecting and heals at the same time, natural medicine.

health food shops, supermarkets anywhere 16+ is the best, but try it first.

With help from compression bandages and compression stockings.

Hope this helps.

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Hi. Not sure if anyone will see this as the thread is quite old now.

I stumbled across this site a few months ago and read about Solcoseryl

gel.

I've been using it with limited results...the gel forms a skin across the

ulcer within quite a short time (mine is the size of a thumb nail about five inches above the inner ankle) this first lart of the healing process is

thrilling!!... and then over the days a scab forms.

But I can't get beyond this point in the healing process.

Do you keep on putting the gel on even when the scab has formed?

I haven't been doing so, but what happens is the scab eventually cracks

and leaks liquid from underneath and then lifts off and the whole process starts all over again. It's not healing up under the scab.

The Solcoseryl is brilliant to begin with but...

I'm seeing my GP in a week's time and I may request a referral for a graft as I'm so fed up with it.

Any feedback would be appreciated!

Having suffered from chronic leg ulcers for over five years, here is my two penny worth, the standard advice is NOT suitable for everyone.  I can also back this up not only with my own experience but that of my Ex-Wife who works as a Nurse Carer in the Community and has treated hundreds of elderly people with the same problem.

    She often mentions how some of her patients are in tears having their wounds tended to, dressed, how compression systems eg Coban mean they are in constant pain with little relief.  She had joked to one of her patients, who kept putting her knitting needles inside her compression dressings as the itching was so intense that she would infect her wounds and risk amputation.  Words said in jest at the time, but several months later she visited the lady and was greeted by her elderly daughter.  She went in to see her former charge and said "Hello Flo how are you ?"  and Flo's daughter said " well Mum is finding it hard after the amputation." True story.

     I can relate to the miserable pain and suffering, waking in the night to find the bedding has stuck to your legs where blood has seeped through etc etc.

  If I wear shoes or socks my legs and feet heat up and start to create new wounds, If I wear long trousers again either my legs stick to the fabric, or the change in atmosphere creates new wounds.  Anything you can get to heal risks reverting to an ulcer in minutes, even trying to show or take a bath can cause me to open new wounds.

     Now I might be an odd chap or unique but, the standard advice from Doctors, District Nurses, Wound Specialists from the Compex Leg Ulcer Service is that moisturising the skin is of paramount importance.  After all otherwise your skin will crack and open and get infected, in my case my skin has opened and cracked and gotten infected precisely zero times.

     What does cause all my wounds, each and everyone of them is using the damned cream in the first place, I must have said a hundred times to Health Professionals "if I use the cream and make my skin soft I start to leek through everywhere and my legs become macerated which leads to all these areas becoming infected and then ulcerate".  I have had a hundred replies now each and every one of them ignoring that feedback and saying "you must use the cream".  My children who have seen the evidence first hand and who accompany me due to another disability are incredulous at how my feedback is ignored.

     After five years now of extensive trial and error, I know what works best and what certainly does not, I cannot use any dressing that has adhesive surrounds as that will open new wounds, using tape to hold a dressing cannot come into contact with my skin or new wound, and on and on.

   Last Friday a saw a practice nurse who put on some dressings, she particularly is terrible and never listens to feedback, we are like oil and water.  I saw her about a year ago as I had bad infections and ulcerations in my left foot, I had seen the Doc the night before who wanted some swabs taken.  Early next morning and went in to have Swabs taken, its her, my heart sinks, here we go again, "I have come in to have some Swabs taken" so lay down on the couch, my son removes my shoe and sock, she glances over from the computer " You dont need them done, it has healed".  Clearly someone who has zero knowledge about these issues,  I try to explain "it may look healed but that scab will go to mush in an hour", "Oh no it wont it has healed, do you know how much experience I have, I know more about it than you".  Giving up I said " actually I dont want them done, it was the Doctor who said I needed them but you must have more experience than him"  walked out stealing the two swab sets on the side, went home, my son swabbed the infected areas, half an hour later dropped off at the Doctors, next morning Metronidazole & Erythromycin delivered by the pharmacist

  Sorry for waffling but when I got home on Friday, I corrected her dressings and saw her again this monday morning, I had managed to see a little improvement so was explaining what had worked.  "Your legs are very dry"  she said, "I know that is what is helping them heal" says I.  "We need to put some cream on them to stop them cracking" she said, "That isnt the problem if we use cream they will macerate very quickly and get worse" said I.  "Yes we need to put some cream on them" giving up I didnt say anything, so she creamed my legs, used a foam dressing pad with external adhesive that makes instant wounds as the foam just sucks more fluid opening the wound even more ( told her they are unsuitable God knows how many times ).  By the time I got home they were getting worse, took the foam pad off the main wound, by last night six or seven more ulcers have opened up.

    Perhaps I should write a book but treatment should be patient specific not blind proforma dogma, the best Nurse I have had was about 65, old school from Matron's Days. exceptional care, beautifully applied full toe to knee dressings that actually even felt comfortable.  Oh for the days when Nursing was a vocation with inspired dedicated ladies.

 

I had an ulcer form after a burn near my ankle. I opened a tetracycline capsule and sprinkled contents liberally onto ulcer. It caused a sting for a short while. I loosely covered it and kept it dry. A thick scab formed in a couple of days. The scab came off in 4 weeks to show complete healing (i suspect the tetracycline scab prevented further infection under the scab),

Pls check with your GP before you try this

Hi, I've not heard of the gel you mention although, over the years I think everything has been used on my leg ulcers! I started with them when only 32 and have had many since. However, a few years ago the nurses came up with something called Atrauman AG which is a silver dressing. It's supposed to be used short-term but each ulcer I've subsequently had has been treated with this, even for 12 months. It's quite soothing, has never caused the ulcder to enlarge (which most other treatments have) and helps prevent infection. I have 4 layer bandaging at the moment which takes away a lot of ulcer pain although the last two ulcers were cleared with the Atrauman AG and two compression stockings, which gives the same compression as 4 layer bandaging. I prefer the double stockings but since a recent knee replacement my leg is too swollen to wear them  I would urge anyone to try this type of dressing as to me it's amazing.  Last year after breast cancer and radiotherapy, under my breast was burned, then it skinned, weeping dreadfully. I thought I'd try my Atrauman AG and within 3 days it had dried up, also amazing my consultant.  If you try it, I hope it's as successful for you as jit is for me as I've got to the stage now that I won't let nurses put anything else on mine, due to such bad reactions in the past. Good luck.

Thanks for the advice, another useful product to make a careful note of.

Just to update for anyone who's interested....I saw my GP and said I was so fed up of this ulcer not healing, tried so many in different things, she said what makes you think it's a varicose ulcer, I said I just assumed it was as my mum had them in the same place. She sent me for a biopsy immediately, it turns out to be a large BCC (basal cell carcinoma) caused by long term sun damage, in other words sunburn as a child. It's been growing for about ten years. I'm furious with the dermatology people I see regularly for not diagnosing it years ago.

So on Friday I'm booked for a plastic surgeon to do a large skin graft.

The moral of my story is always seek a second opinion and

BIOPSY BIOPSY BIOPSY!!!

Hi Simon! If you wrote a book I would buy it! I'm resonating with everything you've written. Even nurses in the same surgery disagree with what dressing on what type of wound etc. The pain is just unbearable. I hope you are doing better,best wishes

Is really works?

your right the cream is horrible for my husbands as well, his are always worse the day after cream is used, it actually had is spread from the front to the back....and those nurses, KNOW NOTHING....they are half the problem...my husband says no way and even tells them you can see it but my wife is wrapping it lol i have done it for years....just tell them no, they cant make you

good luck

yes simon, i agree my wife is suffering also the doctor and the entire health system seems to be limited in ideas of how to deal with this issue, however i have read thousands of coments on and off the internet, heres my take this condition,it should be attacked three ways, one strict diet, two anticougulant drugs or herbs, three compression elevation and other topical approaches. i feel whats going on inside the leg is more important than what you see outside, when the pathways of circulations are corrected then the wound will begin to cure naturally, however having an open wound vulnerable to infection is also a concern and should be treated with care.Simon i have also noticed that when my wife meets a good gentle and kind nurse, she is in good spirits after her visit and ofcourse less pain. I wish you a speedy recovery my friend.

Do you know what kind of ulcer is it? If it is a venous ulcer you should see a vascular specialist. And don't wait to long. Hopefully your insurance will cover it.  

HI! I read your recommendation for solcoseryl and I hope that it happens for me like that. After reading your post I decided to order

online as I live in Sri Lanka and nothing like that is available here.

I just received my solcoseryl today. I am anxious to use

it.  I too have used many things and I almost lost hope & thinking

many negatives about not finding a cure.

These leg ulcers are a curse and when they won't

heal it's so depressing.

Anyway, many thanks for your post and I will start it now,

I hope that your leg ulcer has completely healed now.

Good luck to you too.

 

I have an insect bite that is infected due to over-strenuous scratching.  I have applied plantain (plantago major) leaves.  They will dry it out, and, I hope, heal it, although it looks like I might have waited too long.

Yes.  RNs used to provide incredible care.  Many are not allowed to do what they know how to do, given the system.  Many choose "nursing" because it is one of those jobs in great demand, and have no intrinsic desire to be healers.

I hope your wound is better now.  So sorry that you have been having this problem.

Dear Simon,

Some nurses are weary of their job and no longer proficient, maybe even angry at their lives and then take it out on their patients. Learn to be decisive when you are in a situation as you described. Tell the person NO.  ..I REFUSE CREAM. I REFUSE ADHESIVE. YOU HAVE IGNORED ME. EITHER WE WORK TOGETHER or I will be forced to complain about my care. I'd rather we get it right, so are you going to work with me to get it right, or will you continue to ignore what I have been telling you? If you think that experience is the answer, you haven't the experience of walking in my shoes and until you do I say you have none of my experience and you are necessarily ignorant of my body's needs. Tell me if we are all alike ot are we different..if you agree we all are different, then listen to me when I tell you the cream is harmful for me,the adhesives are harmful to me, and I am asking you to now offer me something that will help me and avoid what I know from my own experience is harmful to me. Should that be too difficult, I will certainly make a formal complaint.