after coming off mirtazapine after 11 years it's completely depersonalised me and left me with lingering physical problems that doctors cannot find anything wrong with me and have lablled me with 'Health Anxiety' or 'hypochondriac' basically. I'm going to try ECT electro convulsive therapy but I feel as though I'm in Big trouble and don't know what to do I've been off the drug 12 months.
Hi Stuart, 12 months is a long time😪 Sorry to hear about your struggle... I've only beeen off this medication for exactly a month and it has been terrible, I've gotten so depressed like never before and stressful to the point anything frightens me, wether is the withdrawal or just cause the pill isn't doing it's job I really think this pill is very dangerous, yes it did help at the beginning but they never said anything about lifetime use...it seems to me that that's the case.! Hope you find a way to fully recover🙏
Hi Candy, I got rid of my mental health problems by doing what's called an hypnotic regression it revisits the incident that caused your depression/anxiety or breakdown as this is in the subconscious part of your mind all the doctors do is give you medication to cover this up until you feel better but most the time the problem remains because tablets are a short fix or just mask the problem, I'm now stuck with the issues that the medication has caused me and cannot get rid of them.
It's messed with the chemicals in the brain.
Hi Stuart I'm sorry to hear of your struggles with mirtazapine, you must be feeling desperate which is understandable. Can I ask what dosage you were on for those 11 years? I'm interested as I'm going through similar type problems which I now believe to be caused by mirtazapine as I have been on them for a very long time too. Wishing you well.
I was on 30mg a day, 1 tablet per night it was for my anxiety I got rid of the anxiety using an hypnotic regression which takes you back to what caused the anxiety in the first place it then gets rid of it where as tablets mask this. I went from 30mg to 15mg for a month then 15mg to 7.5mg for two weeks then I stopped. I'm also found out today I have really low levels of lactobacillus in my gut which can affect mood so I'm now addressing that with probiotics, I did a stool test with a lab in America.
Sinto muito pelo seu sofrimento, Stuart. Essa redução foi muito rápida, talvez você tenha se dado bem com ela, mas foi muito rápida para mim.
Algumas pessoas podem ter sintomas de descontinuação que COMEÇAM há tanto tempo quanto 3, 6, 9 meses, entendo. E você não está sozinho sofrendo com sintomas pós-Mirt após um ano, especialmente com problemas intestinais. Às vezes é um conforto ouvir que você não é o único.
Fico feliz em saber que a Regressão Hipnótica funcionou tão bem para você, ótimo trabalho feito lá. Espero que você encontre alguma paz e cura no futuro próximo.
Yes thank you very much I'm trying to look at as a challenge I've been set I just have my bad days. Thanks all for your help I wish everyone well.
Oi, Stuart. Comecei a tomar Mirt há cerca de 8 semanas, com 15mg, e há cerca de 3 semanas aumentaram para 30mg. Eu estava tomando Paxil 20mg duas vezes ao dia há 20 anos. Tenho problemas de IBS, então há cerca de 6 meses tive um "ataque" ruim que venho enfrentando desde outubro de 2016. O IBS pode afetar a química do cérebro, e isso acontece comigo há 20 anos. Daí o Paxil. Fiquei tão ansioso e deprimido que mudaram meus remédios conforme acima. Também me deram Gabapentina como bloqueador nervoso porque havia um nervo que parecia ir do meu reto/cólon diretamente para o meu cérebro. Comecei com 200mg e aumentaram para 400mg há 3 semanas. Também tomo Tramadol duas vezes ao dia para a dor. Agora vem o pior. Trabalho em um armazém há mais de 30 anos com levantamento de peso, etc. Eles fizeram um CT (agendado pelo meu gastroenterologista) há cerca de 6-7 semanas. Meu psiquiatra vê o exame e diz "tudo normal". Meu gastroenterologista vê o exame, "tudo normal". Vou ao meu médico regular e ele diz "tudo normal, você ainda tem sua hérnia no lado esquerdo". Eu disse, "O QUÊ?!!!". Ele disse que ninguém me contou e eu disse a ele que não. Além disso, descobri hoje, quando o vi para me encaminhar a um cirurgião para corrigir a hérnia, que um CT há 6 anos também mostrou isso e ninguém me contou naquela época também! Agora estou nesses remédios que talvez não precise depois da cirurgia da hérnia, porque eles só queriam bloquear a dor, em vez de tratar o sintoma (hérnia). Espero que tudo dê certo para você e Deus te abençoe, Bob.
Hi Robert, yes I'm amazed at how doctors seem to think our medical records are their property and they can hide things in order to precribe as much of whatever reaping rewards from pharma companies while keeping us ill and desperate. Are you going to sue anyone for the medical negligence/non disclosure you have suffered at their hands? I hope so.
Oi Wayne. Bem, eu tenho um primo que é um bom advogado de um grande escritório. Ele conhece toda a história e, no momento, estamos nos concentrando em me consertar (espero que essa seja uma declaração figurativa e não literal, considerando o local da cirurgia!). Sempre tive problemas de ansiedade, com um "motor" acelerado, por assim dizer, e alguma depressão, mas isso tem aumentado recentemente. Há outros fatores, incluindo ter sido comprado por uma empresa maior há 1 ano e meio e ter mudado para o sistema deles há 7 meses, o que nos faz realizar mais tarefas para cumprir a mesma quantidade de trabalho, além de muita pressão, incluindo possível redução de pessoal. Tenho SII e estava comendo e bebendo muito inadequadamente para a minha condição por um tempo e pesava 265 Lbs. quando meu peso adequado era cerca de 190 Lbs. Agora estou com 202 Lbs., mas a perda de peso foi porque eu estava passando por esse sofrimento nos últimos 6 meses e não conseguia comer muito. Quem diria que a dor é um grande motivador?! (sarcasmo extremo). Então, por enquanto, preciso dos remédios para funcionar, mas depois da cirurgia e da recuperação veremos como estou. Moro nos EUA, em um subúrbio de Cleveland, Ohio, então a litigância é bastante comum com bons resultados. Mas também sou a favor do perdão e, como não mantive bons registros sobre quem fez o quê, isso poderia ser um processo longo e arrastado que não estou equipado para lidar. Vou mantê-lo atualizado. Mantenha a fé, irmão!! Deus o abençoe, Bob
Tente enviar sua resposta para mim novamente, pois um moderador a eliminou. Bob
I'll have to think what it was Bob it was quite long and probably a bit close to the truth about the pharmaceutical industry that's why it got deleted.
AMÉM, IRMÃO!!!!
Pharma mafia I think you mean!!
That's terrible and just the thought of thing one would expect from the NHS. I hope you get sorted.
So sorry to read what you're going through. I weaned myself off gradually and haven't taken any mirtazapine since lady September but feel rough. Determined not to go back on it. I read one if the side effects can be depressed bone marrow hardly conducive for someone with advanced osteoporosis. Only the other day I found quite by chance a trial had been carried out with mirtazapine on healthy subjects which proved that mirtazapine is the only antidepressant that lowers cortisol by ad much as 30 percent. In my case I am always stressed and have high cortisol levels but what of those that do not and are on it for a long time? By the way if you can avoid it I certainly wouldn't agree to ECT treatment. I thought it had been banned in the uk. It's very old fashioned my father had that around 45 years ago it was horrible and certainly did not help him.
I'd try a high strength probiotics like 20 of 50 billion cultures for IBS you can find them on the net by a company called 'Bioglan' or do a proper stool anyasis with a functional health practitioner of nutritionist.
I cannot remember the rest of my reply as it's been deleted.
I had low cortisol levels on an adrenal test I had done whlist I was on them.
Not sure what it's like now, I feel that bad st times I'm completely confused as to what is up with me. I don't know what to do, your right about ECT I think but I've not got a clue what to do the situation I find myself in.
Hi again Robert - thanks for your response. I know exactly what you mean about documentation in judicial cases, and the law can be a slippery, grey and shadowy thing. I too am big on forgiveness, even though some things need to be sorted. Best of luck to you whatever you decide.
Hi Stuart,
Sorry to hear that you're suffering from depersonalisation, it's not a pleasant experience to go through. However, at the same time congratulations on coming off Mirtazapine and reducing your anxiety!
I think with time you will start feeling better, our bodies are amazing things and our brains really are amazing at healing and returning back to a healthy state.
Supplementing your diet with healthy, organic foods full of nutrients and omega oils, such a fish and nuts will really help. Make sure you're drinking plenty of water everyday alongside a multivitamin as that can also help, and most importantly whilst it may be hard, do try and get as much exercise in as possible. I've found that when I suffered from depersonalisation, exercise really helped 'ground' me and gave me the hope I needed to keep up my motivation.
I hope you feel better soon,
Wish you all the best